hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. besieged by tourists, venice starts charging day—trippers to visit. is this the way forward for overwhelmed cities? in fact, we are going to start in europe. the french president, emmanuel macron, has painted a rather bleak picture of the european union today. despite the big strides he believes the eu made towards closer integration post—covid and in response to the war in ukraine, it needs to be much more aggressive, he said, in defending its own interests. the wake—up, he said, has been too slow and there is mortal danger, as he put it, if the union becomes a vassal of the united states and fails to stand up for itself on trade. translation: we must

be lucid to the fact - that our europe today is mortal. she can die. echoing his past calls for europe to plot a third way between the us and china, the french president called for a scaling—up — stronger, more integrated european defences, a more sustainable economic model. "we must lose," he said, the "naivety on defence and trade". in short, he is calling for a self—sufficient, more assertive europe on the world stage. translation: everything i that is strategic in our world, we have delegated. our energy to russia, our security to several of our partners — not france but several others — to the united states. and other critical interests also to china. we must take them back. the speech was welcomed by his neighbur, german chancellor olaf scholz, a relationship that's been somewhat strained in recent months over the response to the war in ukraine. but on this, they seem to be in agreement.

"france and germany want europe to be strong," scholz said in a post online. "your speech contains good ideas on how we can achieve this." let's get the views of the former british ambassador to paris. peter, i thought it was interesting that chancellor scholz said they were good ideas in this because many watching thought he was not very specific about how your funds this transition. you look at the inflation reduction act in the us in the billions they are pouring into that, where are the funds want come from in europe? that, where are the funds want come from in eur0pe?_ from in europe? indeed, and usually the germans — from in europe? indeed, and usually the germans get _ from in europe? indeed, and usually the germans get pretty _ from in europe? indeed, and usually the germans get pretty exasperated| the germans get pretty exasperated when a _ the germans get pretty exasperated when a french president goes to paint— when a french president goes to paint himself as the leading statesman in europe, the leading thinken _ statesman in europe, the leading thinken in — statesman in europe, the leading thinker. in this case, scholz has been _ thinker. in this case, scholz has been polite but i think there are things— been polite but i think there are things in— been polite but i think there are things in this package he announced it will_ things in this package he announced it will he _ things in this package he announced it will be uncomfortable. seven years _ it will be uncomfortable. seven years ago, macron went to the

sorbonne — years ago, macron went to the sorbonne and made a big speech about your becoming more self—sufficient and standing up for itself in the world — and standing up for itself in the world. now he is back, you're up darker_ world. now he is back, you're up darker and — world. now he is back, you're up darker and there were more competitive and ruthless and i think he feels _ competitive and ruthless and i think he feels he — competitive and ruthless and i think he feels he was vindicated and think of moving _ he feels he was vindicated and think of moving too slowly. so if you want to see _ of moving too slowly. so if you want to see a _ of moving too slowly. so if you want to see a bigger and more common in european _ to see a bigger and more common in european budget, more european defence _ european budget, more european defence but not a european army but more _ defence but not a european army but more working together on defence, and a _ more working together on defence, and a stronger protection of your's industries — and a stronger protection of your's industries faced with the inflation reduction — industries faced with the inflation reduction act and more aggressive china _ reduction act and more aggressive china as _ reduction act and more aggressive china as well as the war in russia. how— china as well as the war in russia. how far— china as well as the war in russia. how far he — china as well as the war in russia. how far he is— china as well as the war in russia. how far he is going to get, i don't know, _ how far he is going to get, i don't know, because germany will be quite resistant— know, because germany will be quite resistant to _ know, because germany will be quite resistant to some of the ideas about bigger— resistant to some of the ideas about bigger european budgets to fund common— bigger european budgets to fund common projects, but i think he has staked _ common projects, but i think he has staked out— common projects, but i think he has staked out in pretty stark terms that unless europe reacts quickly, the european model of free—trade and iiberai— the european model of free—trade and liberal approach to the world will die because the world has become much _ die because the world has become much more — die because the world has become much more polarised into blocks

competing and looking after their own interests. it's very much a look at call— own interests. it's very much a look at call as— own interests. it's very much a look at call as well as a reminder that he is _ at call as well as a reminder that he is the — at call as well as a reminder that he is the one doing the visionary thinking — he is the one doing the visionary thinking in — he is the one doing the visionary thinking in europe. in he is the one doing the visionary thinking in europe.— he is the one doing the visionary thinking in europe. in our europe series, thinking in europe. in our europe series. your _ thinking in europe. in our europe series, your votes, _ thinking in europe. in our europe series, your votes, on _ thinking in europe. in our europe series, your votes, on tuesday . series, your votes, on tuesday coming will be in paris and looking at france in greater detail but i know from some of my early research that actually at the national rally are doing pretty well. they are the top of the polls for the european elections and in fact i think it's the first time that a party has been over 30%, they are about 31 at the moment. what i was going to ask you is why now. what's behind the timing of this six—week from european election? edi of this six-week from european election? .., , of this six-week from european election? _, , , ., of this six-week from european election? , , ., ., election? of course he is got one e e on election? of course he is got one eye on that. _ election? of course he is got one eye on that, and _ election? of course he is got one eye on that, and he _ election? of course he is got one eye on that, and he had - election? of course he is got one eye on that, and he had some . eye on that, and he had some pretty tough _ eye on that, and he had some pretty tough words without mentioning the leader— tough words without mentioning the leader of— tough words without mentioning the leader of the far right, marine le pen, _ leader of the far right, marine le pen. that— leader of the far right, marine le pen, that some european politicians are undermining the european cause and i_ are undermining the european cause and i think— are undermining the european cause and i think he sees that as a contribution to the election campaign with the centre—right party is not _ campaign with the centre—right party is not doing very well at the

moment _ is not doing very well at the moment. but also i think he is trying — moment. but also i think he is trying to— moment. but also i think he is trying to lay out the ground for a new european commission, a new european — new european commission, a new european parliament, a new five—year term starting in europe at the end of the _ term starting in europe at the end of the summerand term starting in europe at the end of the summer and he must be the one out there _ of the summer and he must be the one out there first. he even went as far as to _ out there first. he even went as far as to have — out there first. he even went as far as to have some slightly ambiguous words _ as to have some slightly ambiguous words about french nuclear deterrence being seen more in service — deterrence being seen more in service of— deterrence being seen more in service of europe. i don't think he means— service of europe. i don't think he means sharing it with europeans but that's— means sharing it with europeans but that's a _ means sharing it with europeans but that's a very — means sharing it with europeans but that's a very sensitive issue, including _ that's a very sensitive issue, including for the germans, to feel they have — including for the germans, to feel they have any involvement in how the french _ they have any involvement in how the french nuclear deterrent helps keep europe _ french nuclear deterrent helps keep europe say. french nuclear deterrent helps keep euroe sa . , french nuclear deterrent helps keep eur0pe say-— europe say. interesting, the former foreian europe say. interesting, the former foreign secretary _ europe say. interesting, the former foreign secretary in _ europe say. interesting, the former foreign secretary in germany - europe say. interesting, the former foreign secretary in germany has . foreign secretary in germany has talked about germany getting its own nuclear weapons and there are similar discussions in poland, which really does point to the a potential threat that some of the leaders do see. before we make contact with you at the top of the programme, we talked about the threat that europe sees from a potential donald trump presidency. there are structural weaknesses which macron estimate of the programme, we talked about the threat that europe sees from a potential donald trump presidency.

there are structural weaknesses which macron as holiday within the union, not least on energy. it is not very well integrated and we are very dependent right now on l mg from the us. if there were 10% tariffs as he has threatened on eu exports and he started focusing on national capitals rather than the european union, which he has done before, all those things are ringing alarm bells here in europe. will there be some within congress who will be concerned about the strains on the alliance right now? people are already _ on the alliance right now? people are already concerned, _ on the alliance right now? people are already concerned, i - on the alliance right now? people are already concerned, i think, i on the alliance right now? people. are already concerned, i think, and macron's_ are already concerned, i think, and macron's coming _ are already concerned, i think, and macron's coming out _ are already concerned, i think, and macron's coming out as _ are already concerned, i think, and macron's coming out as becoming i are already concerned, i think, and - macron's coming out as becoming more the elder— macron's coming out as becoming more the elder statesman— macron's coming out as becoming more the elder statesman of— macron's coming out as becoming more the elder statesman of europe, - macron's coming out as becoming more the elder statesman of europe, has - the elder statesman of europe, has he not. _ the elder statesman of europe, has he not. during— the elder statesman of europe, has he not, during many— the elder statesman of europe, has he not, during many ways, - the elder statesman of europe, has he not, during many ways, with- he not, during many ways, with envelope — he not, during many ways, with envelope merkel_ he not, during many ways, with envelope merkel off— he not, during many ways, with envelope merkel off the - he not, during many ways, with envelope merkel off the table. i he not, during many ways, with. envelope merkel off the table. he he not, during many ways, with- envelope merkel off the table. he is now the _ envelope merkel off the table. he is now the essentially _ envelope merkel off the table. he is now the essentially most _ envelope merkel off the table. he is now the essentially most visible - envelope merkel off the table. he isj now the essentially most visible and the leader— now the essentially most visible and the leader in— now the essentially most visible and the leader in europe. _ now the essentially most visible and the leader in europe. and _ now the essentially most visible and the leader in europe. and i- now the essentially most visible and the leader in europe. and i think- now the essentially most visible and the leader in europe. and i think it i the leader in europe. and i think it is smart— the leader in europe. and i think it is smart to — the leader in europe. and i think it is smart to think— the leader in europe. and i think it is smart to think about _ the leader in europe. and i think it is smart to think about a _ the leader in europe. and i think it is smart to think about a donald i is smart to think about a donald trump _ is smart to think about a donald trump presidency, _ is smart to think about a donald trump presidency, particularly. is smart to think about a donald - trump presidency, particularly since he has _ trump presidency, particularly since he has been — trump presidency, particularly since he has been so _ trump presidency, particularly since he has been so over— trump presidency, particularly since he has been so over about - trump presidency, particularly since he has been so over about his- he has been so over about his threats— he has been so over about his threats to _ he has been so over about his threats to give _ he has been so over about his threats to give nato -

he has been so over about his threats to give nato fewer - he has been so over about his- threats to give nato fewer resources and let _ threats to give nato fewer resources and let more — threats to give nato fewer resources and let more countries— threats to give nato fewer resources and let more countries fend - threats to give nato fewer resources and let more countries fend for- and let more countries fend for themselves _ and let more countries fend for themselves. nonetheless, - and let more countries fend for themselves. nonetheless, you| and let more countries fend for- themselves. nonetheless, you know, that is— themselves. nonetheless, you know, that is going — themselves. nonetheless, you know, that is going to— themselves. nonetheless, you know, that is going to be _ themselves. nonetheless, you know, that is going to be a _ themselves. nonetheless, you know, that is going to be a bridge _ themselves. nonetheless, you know, that is going to be a bridge too - themselves. nonetheless, you know, that is going to be a bridge too far. that is going to be a bridge too far for congress. _ that is going to be a bridge too far for congress, for— that is going to be a bridge too far for congress, for the _ that is going to be a bridge too far for congress, for the american - for congress, for the american people. — for congress, for the american people. is— for congress, for the american people. is to _ for congress, for the american people. is to let _ for congress, for the american people, is to let europe - for congress, for the american people, is to let europe go - for congress, for the american - people, is to let europe go entirely on its _ people, is to let europe go entirely on its own — people, is to let europe go entirely on its own it's _ people, is to let europe go entirely on its own. it's one _ people, is to let europe go entirely on its own. it's one thing _ people, is to let europe go entirely on its own. it's one thing to say- people, is to let europe go entirely on its own. it's one thing to say we want _ on its own. it's one thing to say we want you _ on its own. it's one thing to say we want you to — on its own. it's one thing to say we want you to put _ on its own. it's one thing to say we want you to put more _ on its own. it's one thing to say we want you to put more resources . want you to put more resources in your— want you to put more resources in your own _ want you to put more resources in your own defence. _ want you to put more resources in your own defence, to _ want you to put more resources in your own defence, to put - want you to put more resources in your own defence, to put more . your own defence, to put more resources _ your own defence, to put more resources in _ your own defence, to put more resources in the _ your own defence, to put more resources in the defence - your own defence, to put more resources in the defence of- your own defence, to put more . resources in the defence of other countries — resources in the defence of other countries you _ resources in the defence of other countries you need _ resources in the defence of other countries you need to _ resources in the defence of other countries you need to be - resources in the defence of other. countries you need to be important. it's countries you need to be important. it's another — countries you need to be important. it's another thing _ countries you need to be important. it's another thing is _ countries you need to be important. it's another thing is if _ countries you need to be important. it's another thing is if we say - countries you need to be important. it's another thing is if we say we - it's another thing is if we say we are going — it's another thing is if we say we are going to— it's another thing is if we say we are going to be— it's another thing is if we say we are going to be a— it's another thing is if we say we are going to be a part _ it's another thing is if we say we are going to be a part of- it's another thing is if we say we are going to be a part of hurting| are going to be a part of hurting the european _ are going to be a part of hurting the european economy- are going to be a part of hurting the european economy and - are going to be a part of hurting. the european economy and destroy are going to be a part of hurting - the european economy and destroy the european _ the european economy and destroy the european economy _ the european economy and destroy the european economy. wish _ the european economy and destroy the european economy. wish i _ the european economy and destroy the european economy. wish i out - the european economy and destroy the european economy. wish i out there, l european economy. wish i out there, with russia _ european economy. wish i out there, with russia out — european economy. wish i out there, with russia out there, _ european economy. wish i out there, with russia out there, with _ european economy. wish i out there, with russia out there, with north- with russia out there, with north korea _ with russia out there, with north korea out — with russia out there, with north korea out there, _ with russia out there, with north korea out there, with _ with russia out there, with north korea out there, with a _ with russia out there, with north korea out there, with a rod - with russia out there, with north korea out there, with a rod out . korea out there, with a rod out there, donald _ korea out there, with a rod out there, donald trump— korea out there, with a rod out there, donald trump will- korea out there, with a rod out there, donald trump will have i korea out there, with a rod out - there, donald trump will have plenty of countries — there, donald trump will have plenty of countries to — there, donald trump will have plenty of countries to pick— there, donald trump will have plenty of countries to pick on. _ there, donald trump will have plenty of countries to pick on. i _ there, donald trump will have plenty of countries to pick on. i don't - of countries to pick on. i don't think— of countries to pick on. i don't think that _ of countries to pick on. i don't think that europe _ of countries to pick on. i don't think that europe and - of countries to pick on. i don't think that europe and france i of countries to pick on. i don'ti think that europe and france is going _ think that europe and france is going to — think that europe and france is going to be _ think that europe and france is going to be his— think that europe and france is going to be his first _ think that europe and france is going to be his first choice. - think that europe and france isl going to be his first choice. one think that europe and france is going to be his first choice. one of the divisions _ going to be his first choice. one of the divisions that _ going to be his first choice. one of the divisions that does _ going to be his first choice. one of the divisions that does still - the divisions that does still exist is over what we are sending to ukraine. chancellor scholz said yesterday while the british from mr was there that he will not send the tourists and this is the

longer—range missile and he is adamant about that but today we find out that in fact the us is sending longer—range missiles and is sent quite a few. these are the missiles that will stretch about 190 miles. largely they say because russia has been sourcing similar weapons from north korea. that's another redline, and the white house is crossed that. it gives ukraine the ability to reach russia beyond its own border. what has been the response of that in washington? idem; what has been the response of that in washington?— what has been the response of that in washinrton? , ., ~ ., in washington? very muted. you know, there was a significant _ in washington? very muted. you know, there was a significant bipartisan - there was a significant bipartisan effort _ there was a significant bipartisan effort over— there was a significant bipartisan effort over the _ there was a significant bipartisan effort over the last _ there was a significant bipartisan effort over the last ten _ there was a significant bipartisan effort over the last ten days - there was a significant bipartisan effort over the last ten days andl effort over the last ten days and a successful— effort over the last ten days and a successful effort _ effort over the last ten days and a successful effort to _ effort over the last ten days and a successful effort to finally - effort over the last ten days and a successful effort to finally get - successful effort to finally get foreign — successful effort to finally get foreign aid _ successful effort to finally get foreign aid to _ successful effort to finally get foreign aid to ukraine, - successful effort to finally get foreign aid to ukraine, and i successful effort to finally get | foreign aid to ukraine, and we successful effort to finally get - foreign aid to ukraine, and we have seen— foreign aid to ukraine, and we have seen that— foreign aid to ukraine, and we have seen that be — foreign aid to ukraine, and we have seen that be essentially _ foreign aid to ukraine, and we have seen that be essentially mostly- seen that be essentially mostly supported. _ seen that be essentially mostly supported, except _ seen that be essentially mostly supported, except for- seen that be essentially mostly supported, except for a - seen that be essentially mostly supported, except for a small. seen that be essentially mostly- supported, except for a small group of conservatives— supported, except for a small group of conservatives on _ supported, except for a small group of conservatives on the _ supported, except for a small group of conservatives on the far - supported, except for a small group of conservatives on the far right. i of conservatives on the far right. and i_ of conservatives on the far right. and i think— of conservatives on the far right. and i think that— of conservatives on the far right. and i think that somewhat - of conservatives on the far right. and i think that somewhat therel of conservatives on the far right. i and i think that somewhat there is relief— and i think that somewhat there is relief in _ and i think that somewhat there is relief in the — and i think that somewhat there is relief in the country _ and i think that somewhat there is relief in the country that _ and i think that somewhat there is relief in the country that that - relief in the country that that leadership— relief in the country that that leadership is— relief in the country that that leadership is being _ relief in the country that that| leadership is being reignited, relief in the country that that - leadership is being reignited, and i

'ust leadership is being reignited, and i just think— leadership is being reignited, and i just think that— leadership is being reignited, and i just think that as _ leadership is being reignited, and i just think that as long _ leadership is being reignited, and i just think that as long as _ leadership is being reignited, and i just think that as long as joe - leadership is being reignited, and i just think that as long as joe bidenj just think that as long as joe biden is president. — just think that as long as joe biden is president, ukraine _ just think that as long as joe biden is president, ukraine is _ just think that as long as joe biden is president, ukraine is going - just think that as long as joe biden is president, ukraine is going to i is president, ukraine is going to continue — is president, ukraine is going to continue to— is president, ukraine is going to continue to get _ is president, ukraine is going to continue to get the _ is president, ukraine is going to continue to get the resources i is president, ukraine is going to continue to get the resources to push _ continue to get the resources to push back— continue to get the resources to push back on— continue to get the resources to push back on russia. _ continue to get the resources to push back on russia. i- continue to get the resources to push back on russia. i don't- continue to get the resources toj push back on russia. i don't see that changing. _ push back on russia. i don't see that changing, and _ push back on russia. i don't see that changing, and i— push back on russia. idon't see that changing, and i don't- push back on russia. i don't seel that changing, and i don't frankly see the _ that changing, and i don't frankly see the american _ that changing, and i don't frankly see the american people - that changing, and i don't frankly. see the american people demanding that changing, and i don't frankly- see the american people demanding a change _ see the american people demanding a change there — see the american people demanding a change there-— change there. well, if all that has riven ou change there. well, if all that has given you that _ change there. well, if all that has given you that sinking... - if you are watching in europe and that's given you the sinking feeling, spare a thought for venice. not yet under water, but a city that is struggling under the weight of its own popularity. today, they began trialling a new measure to combat overcrowding — tourists who show up must now pay up. and day—trippers who venture close to the historic centre will now be required to pay a five—euro entrance fee. it will only apply on 29 "peak" tourist days up until the trial end on july the 14th. those who fail to pay the fee face fines of 50—300 euros. with me now is beatrice guzzardi. she's a venetian journalist and has been seeing the problem of overtourism first—hand for many years now.

we were talking just software that you are actually or you live very close to saint marks, is that right? that is correct.— that is correct. have you seen this roblem that is correct. have you seen this problem over— that is correct. have you seen this problem over the _ that is correct. have you seen this problem over the years _ that is correct. have you seen this problem over the years with - that is correct. have you seen this problem over the years with my i problem over the years with my absolutely as i saw the changing city more and more, getting much more tired of it.— city more and more, getting much more tired of it. people want some chan . e more tired of it. people want some change and — more tired of it. people want some change and they — more tired of it. people want some change and they want _ more tired of it. people want some change and they want actual - more tired of it. people want some | change and they want actual policies that will work for the residents and for citizens living in it. and they will regulate tourism and people coming into the city each day, so... when you talk about change, i'm thinking about really popular towns here in the uk where there are second—home owners, where the shots are not butchers or grocers, their tourist shops, craft shops. the fabric of society changes. how has that manifested itself in venice? it that manifested itself in venice? it manifested in seeing a lot of gift shops being around the city and less and less shops for residents to buy

groceries orjust normal close for what i saw. and this is really disturbing for people living in it. they feel like they are living inside a theme park almost, and this new ticket is only an adding thing to that. but new ticket is only an adding thing to that. �* .,, new ticket is only an adding thing to that. �* ., , , new ticket is only an adding thing to that. �* .,, , ., ., ., to that. but 5 euros is a latte and a coronet — to that. but 5 euros is a latte and a coronet of- _ to that. but 5 euros is a latte and a coronet of. it _ to that. but 5 euros is a latte and a coronet of. it is _ to that. but 5 euros is a latte and a coronet of. it is not _ to that. but 5 euros is a latte and a coronet of. it is not a _ to that. but 5 euros is a latte and a coronet of. it is not a very - a coronet of. it is not a very big fines among the people off? exactly, that's what l'm _ fines among the people off? exactly, that's what i'm saying. _ fines among the people off? exactly, that's what i'm saying. people - fines among the people off? exactly, that's what i'm saying. people will i that's what i'm saying. people will not be put off by a 5 euros ticket, and that's the main issue with this. there should be a limit to people coming into the city, and this ticket is not coming with it or a rule saying there is going to be an amount of people that will come in during the day. so i'm afraid it will bejust during the day. so i'm afraid it will be just another policy that will be just another policy that will not find its place any more. i will not find its place any more. i don't know if lord ricketts has been the venice but i will wager he has. he is a different route to many

cities around europe, so what do you think i'm a good idea or bad idea? i think i'm a good idea or bad idea? i think i'm a good idea or bad idea? i think venice is get a particular problem — think venice is get a particular problem because there are so many day—trippers. there are millions of tourists— day—trippers. there are millions of tourists who visit paris or london or washington, tourists who visit paris or london orwashington, but tourists who visit paris or london or washington, but they stay in hotels — or washington, but they stay in hotels and they paid to wrist taxes and they— hotels and they paid to wrist taxes and they make some attribution to the local— and they make some attribution to the local economy. day—trippers who -ets the local economy. day—trippers who gets off _ the local economy. day—trippers who gets off the — the local economy. day—trippers who gets off the train and wanders around — gets off the train and wanders around venice and goes home again does not _ around venice and goes home again does not make much attribution was i think this _ does not make much attribution was i think this is _ does not make much attribution was i think this is a sticking plaster but it is highlighting a problem that even _ it is highlighting a problem that even day—trippers ought to be contributing to the cost of the city _ contributing to the cost of the city and _ contributing to the cost of the city. and as your panelist says, there _ city. and as your panelist says, there is— city. and as your panelist says, there is a — city. and as your panelist says, there is a fine line between being a wonderful— there is a fine line between being a wonderful global torah centre and becoming a disney type thing park with no— becoming a disney type thing park with no where for people to live or shop _ with no where for people to live or shop or— with no where for people to live or shop or survive. so venice is tipping — shop or survive. so venice is tipping over at that point and i don't — tipping over at that point and i don't think 5 euros a day is going to change — don't think 5 euros a day is going to change it but maybe there is an idea there — to change it but maybe there is an idea there are of somehow limiting the vast _ idea there are of somehow limiting the vast numbers to come in and make little contribution to the local economy. |

little contribution to the local economy-— little contribution to the local economy. little contribution to the local econom . , ., ., ,., economy. i tell you what, the pot will build up _ economy. i tell you what, the pot will build up pretty _ economy. i tell you what, the pot will build up pretty quickly. i economy. i tell you what, the pot will build up pretty quickly. you l will build up pretty quickly. you think about all the cleaning services that cities need and the updates to infrastructure, to public monuments, is a good money earner and i would think other cities in the world but not this in europe will be suiting up and watch what happens. will be suiting up and watch what ha ens. . v will be suiting up and watch what ha ens, ., �*, ., will be suiting up and watch what hauens. . �*, ., , will be suiting up and watch what hauens. . v . , happens. that's a gently rock. i don't think _ happens. that's a gently rock. i don't think it's _ happens. that's a gently rock. i don't think it's much _ happens. that's a gently rock. i don't think it's much about i happens. that's a gently rock. i don't think it's much about a i don't think it's much about a deterrent— don't think it's much about a deterrent for— don't think it's much about a deterrent for visiting - don't think it's much about a i deterrent for visiting obviously, that will— deterrent for visiting obviously, that will not _ deterrent for visiting obviously, that will not stop _ deterrent for visiting obviously, that will not stop people - deterrent for visiting obviously, that will not stop people from l that will not stop people from coming — that will not stop people from coming come _ that will not stop people from coming come of— that will not stop people from coming come of it— that will not stop people from coming come of it is- that will not stop people from coming come of it is about i that will not stop people from coming come of it is about an| coming come of it is about an opportunity— coming come of it is about an opportunity to— coming come of it is about an opportunity to get _ coming come of it is about an opportunity to get more - coming come of it is about an- opportunity to get more resources to a city— opportunity to get more resources to a city that— opportunity to get more resources to a city that has— opportunity to get more resources to a city that has undying _ a city that has undying infrastructure - a city that has undying infrastructure needs. i a city that has undying - infrastructure needs. being built a city that has undying _ infrastructure needs. being built on water. _ infrastructure needs. being built on water. its— infrastructure needs. being built on water. its very— infrastructure needs. being built on water, it's very damaging _ infrastructure needs. being built on water, it's very damaging to - infrastructure needs. being built on water, it's very damaging to the i water, it's very damaging to the stones— water, it's very damaging to the stones and _ water, it's very damaging to the stones and temples _ water, it's very damaging to the stones and temples and - water, it's very damaging to the stones and temples and i'm i water, it's very damaging to the | stones and temples and i'm with peter. _ stones and temples and i'm with peter. i— stones and temples and i'm with peter. ithink— stones and temples and i'm with peter, i think nothing _ stones and temples and i'm with peter, i think nothing in- stones and temples and i'm with peter, i think nothing in the - stones and temples and i'm with. peter, i think nothing in the world would _ peter, i think nothing in the world would stop— peter, i think nothing in the world would stop me _ peter, i think nothing in the world would stop me from _ peter, i think nothing in the world would stop me from going - peter, i think nothing in the world would stop me from going to - would stop me from going to venice. and i_ would stop me from going to venice. and i hope _ would stop me from going to venice. and i hope it — would stop me from going to venice. and i hope it always— would stop me from going to venice. and i hope it always stays _ would stop me from going to venice. and i hope it always stays the - and i hope it always stays the bright — and i hope it always stays the bright shining _ and i hope it always stays the bright shining city— and i hope it always stays the bright shining city that - and i hope it always stays the bright shining city that it - and i hope it always stays the bright shining city that it is, l and i hope it always stays the . bright shining city that it is, and if that— bright shining city that it is, and if that cost— bright shining city that it is, and if that cost a _ bright shining city that it is, and if that cost a few _ bright shining city that it is, and if that cost a few extra - bright shining city that it is, and if that cost a few extra dollars, i if that cost a few extra dollars, i'm if that cost a few extra dollars, i'm all— if that cost a few extra dollars, i'm all for— if that cost a few extra dollars, i'm all for it _ if that cost a few extra dollars, i'm all for it. i— if that cost a few extra dollars, i'm all for it.—

i'm all for it. i really focus on the golden — i'm all for it. i really focus on the golden mosaics - i'm all for it. i really focus on the golden mosaics of- i'm all for it. i really focus on the golden mosaics of st. i i'm all for it. i really focus on i the golden mosaics of st. mark's than on that trinket shops at his feet, but what do you think the money, only that will be spent on if they give some indication of what they give some indication of what the money will be spent on? plat they give some indication of what the money will be spent on? not as i know, but the money will be spent on? not as i know. but what _ the money will be spent on? not as i know, but what i _ the money will be spent on? not as i know, but what i know _ the money will be spent on? not as i know, but what i know is _ the money will be spent on? not as i know, but what i know is that - know, but what i know is that they are paying a third party company to check people. they say pay the ticket. this is not like the money will be spent for this whole policy, said the money that will come in, i don't know if it's going to cover that anytime. don't know if it's going to cover that anytime-— don't know if it's going to cover that an ime. ., ,, ., that anytime. thank you for coming in to the studio. _ that anytime. thank you for coming in to the studio. i _ that anytime. thank you for coming in to the studio. i know _ that anytime. thank you for coming in to the studio. i know you - that anytime. thank you for coming in to the studio. i know you were i in to the studio. i know you were in venice last week, was it nice? it venice last week, was it nice? it was really nice, nice weather. venice last week, was it nice? it i was really nice, nice weather. we've had no weather _ was really nice, nice weather. we've had no weather here _ was really nice, nice weather. we've had no weather here at _ was really nice, nice weather. we've had no weather here at all, - was really nice, nice weather. we've had no weather here at all, writing l had no weather here at all, writing consulates maybe we should all go to venice and pay the 5 euros. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.

now it's time for the panel.

let's start with you. let's talk about secretary blinken, who is in china on day two of his visit. would you want to talk about?— you want to talk about? well, you know, we you want to talk about? well, you know. we are _ you want to talk about? well, you know, we are in _ you want to talk about? well, you know, we are in a _ you want to talk about? well, you know, we are in a very _ you want to talk about? well, you know, we are in a very interestingj know, we are in a very interesting position right now with respect to china. we have had a sniffing amount of moneyjust recently allocated for the defence of taiwan. we have had a sort of anti—china measure passed the congress overwhelmingly and tied by president biden that will ban tiktok orforce the by president biden that will ban tiktok or force the parent company to sell it in a measure i think many thought that the us government would never take considering how many millions of americans use tiktok. and it's all because they don't trust china's security systems, that they don't trust that the chinese government is not going to infiltrate us consumers and data and the like. and so on the one hand,

you sent secretary blinken there to make nice and on the other hand he were telling them we don't trust anything you do and therefore... the timin: is anything you do and therefore... the timing is curious because he is there say we need a better atmosphere around trade, and they have just told one of the biggest companies in china that they have got to sell off tiktok within a year or lose it. that's not the basis for a good relationship, is it? listened to for: et a good relationship, is it? listened to forget the _ a good relationship, is it? listened to forget the reason _ a good relationship, is it? listened to forget the reason relations i a good relationship, is it? listened to forget the reason relations have| to forget the reason relations have worn to be is because they finally got past the chinese five balloons floating over the us just last year. and so that was a major sticking point for chinese and american relations. so there is a determination among the largest american companies, the tech companies, the banking industry and the like, to have a good relationship with china. it's an important market. is

relationship with china. it's an important market. relationship with china. it's an imortant market. , , ., ., important market. is diplomacy. that 0 ens important market. is diplomacy. that opens doors — important market. is diplomacy. that opens doors and _ important market. is diplomacy. that opens doors and at _ important market. is diplomacy. that opens doors and at a _ important market. is diplomacy. that opens doors and at a time _ important market. is diplomacy. that opens doors and at a time when i important market. is diplomacy. that opens doors and at a time when we i opens doors and at a time when we are drifting further drifting further and further apart, that obviously, that investment is obviously, that investment is obviously important. peter, you will talk about the mona lisa, who is being booted from her room. she is going into isolation. i think it is a good idea so would you like to explain? a good idea so would you like to exlain? . . a good idea so would you like to exlain? , . ,, . , explain? yes, a website which is a promotional _ explain? yes, a website which is a promotional website _ explain? yes, a website which is a promotional website came - explain? yes, a website which is a promotional website came out i explain? yes, a website which is a | promotional website came out with explain? yes, a website which is a i promotional website came out with a rather— promotional website came out with a rather devastating conclusion on a pole that — rather devastating conclusion on a pole that the mona lisa is the world's— pole that the mona lisa is the world's most disappointing masterpiece with them i don't think it's our— masterpiece with them i don't think it's our criticism, i think it is the — it's our criticism, i think it is the experience you get if you go and try and _ the experience you get if you go and try and see — the experience you get if you go and try and see the mona lisa. remember the louvre _ try and see the mona lisa. remember the louvre is— try and see the mona lisa. remember the louvre is the biggest museum in the louvre is the biggest museum in the world. _ the louvre is the biggest museum in the world. 9— the louvre is the biggest museum in the world, 9 million visitors a year and everyone wants to go and see one painting _ and everyone wants to go and see one painting so— and everyone wants to go and see one painting. so they line up for hours to get— painting. so they line up for hours to get to — painting. so they line up for hours to get to see you and you get a few seconds _ to get to see you and you get a few seconds in — to get to see you and you get a few seconds in the room and when you get in the _ seconds in the room and when you get in the room. _ seconds in the room and when you get in the room, it's already crowded and she — in the room, it's already crowded and she is— in the room, it's already crowded and she is quite a small painting at the end _ and she is quite a small painting at the end of— and she is quite a small painting at the end of a long room. it's a very disappointing experience. so they're going _ disappointing experience. so they're going to _ disappointing experience. so they're going to move it to a larger room on

its own— going to move it to a larger room on its own and — going to move it to a larger room on its own and perhaps with its own entrance. — its own and perhaps with its own entrance, but it does illustrate a water _ entrance, but it does illustrate a water problem that these mega artworks— water problem that these mega artworks it become so popular, you cannot— artworks it become so popular, you cannot actually enjoy because you cannot actually enjoy because you can never— cannot actually enjoy because you can never get anywhere near them for people _ can never get anywhere near them for people taking selfies._ people taking selfies. people were doinu that people taking selfies. people were doing that in _ people taking selfies. people were doing that in the _ people taking selfies. people were doing that in the pictures - people taking selfies. people were doing that in the pictures and i people taking selfies. people were doing that in the pictures and you | doing that in the pictures and you are so far away, you are right, i was based in paris for many years and i would always go and you always want to drift past her picture but it is as you say thoroughly disappointing experience you cannot get close to her to admire it. so they will put her in her own room, are they? they will put her in her own room, are the ? . �* , they will put her in her own room, are the ? . 2 ., they will put her in her own room, arethe ? . 2 ., ., , are they? yeah, it's gotten worse since he were _ are they? yeah, it's gotten worse since he were there _ are they? yeah, it's gotten worse since he were there and - are they? yeah, it's gotten worse since he were there and now- are they? yeah, it's gotten worse since he were there and now it i are they? yeah, it's gotten worse since he were there and now it is| since he were there and now it is impossible _ since he were there and now it is impossible. i think this picture rather— impossible. i think this picture rather underplay the crowds that are there _ rather underplay the crowds that are there at _ rather underplay the crowds that are there at all— rather underplay the crowds that are there at all times. they found a basement— there at all times. they found a basement or something close to the outside _ basement or something close to the outside of— basement or something close to the outside of the museum so they can have their— outside of the museum so they can have their own entrance and if you 'ust have their own entrance and if you just want— have their own entrance and if you just want to — have their own entrance and if you just want to go and see only the mona _ just want to go and see only the mona lisa — just want to go and see only the mona lisa and not the other tens of thousands— mona lisa and not the other tens of thousands of paintings in the hundreds of metres of core doors, you go— hundreds of metres of core doors, you go there. still a better

experience but we don't know... banished — experience but we don't know... banished to the basement and still she smiles. thank you, good night. hello from the bbc sport centre. i'm lizzie greenwood—hughes. we're starting with the night's premier league fotball, and manchester city comfortably beat brighton away to move to within a point of leaders arsenal with a game in hand. in a dominant first half, kevin de bruyne scored a brilliant looping header for city's opening goal. phil foden then scored twice before the break. kyle walker made it 4—0 whichjulian alvarez put away. stoppage time there and it is 4—0 city lead to brighton. it's looking increasingly likely that arne slot will be jurgen klopp's replacement at liverpool when he leaves at the end of the season. the current feyenoord manager confirmed to dutch media tonight that he wants to join liverpool

and that "the two clubs are negotiating" while he "awaits the outcome". feyenoord won the eredivisie title under slot last year. here are the thoughts of neil atkinson from the anfield wrap. english football throws up its own set of challenges. the premier league does as of the can be really good into brantley at feyenoord and coming into a good set up at liverpool and coming into what look for the third best team in the country. this is a side who are streets of head of the one that klopp joined streets of head of the one that kloppjoined in streets of head of the one that klopp joined in 2015. join us kloppjoined in 2015. join us on that would go on it's easy to finish eighth and i think it finished sixth or seventh year before and they looked a world away from being able to challenge for the league title. besides, this is a challenge as it have fallen short of a couple of weeks earlier that we would've liked with that team is arne slot as you need to manage from day one. the thing i'm not going to do is sort of act as though the job is not as hard as the one that klopp had to do. he had to get liverpool back to the top of the mountain. arne slot poz meant

jobs to keep them there and with some silverware along the way. the man behind red bull's formula 1 success, adrian newey, is leaving the team following the controversy around christian horner. newey is regarded as the sport's greatest designer and has been red bull's chief technical officer for nearly 20 years. he's credited with red bull's huge success, including sebastian vettel�*s four world titles and max verstappen's current domination. before that, the british designer worked at williams and maclaren, winning multiple constructors and drivers championships. but newey is said to be unsettled after red bull's team principal was accused of sexual harassment and coercive, abusive behaviour by a female employee, which has led to a power struggle at red bull. horner denies everything and was cleared of any wrongdoing. ronnie o'sullivan's hopes of a record eighth world snooker championship title are still alive ater he eased into the second round in sheffield. the rocket won the two frames he needed to finish off his opening match against jackson page, sealing a 10—1 victory and setting up a meeting with another welshman, ryan day, next. o'sullivan is also aiming to complete snooker�*s triple crown in a single season

following his wins at the uk championship and the masters. i've already broke the rules for snooker, as far as i'm concerned. you know, i'm still going at a8, a9, whatever it is, so, you know, i'm just seeing what's possible now. you know, what is possible in this game? how long can you keep going for, you know? can i win a world championship at 50, who knows? but i'm probably the only player that's able to do that, so let's see, let's have an experiment, you know? the four—time world championjohn higgins is one from away from a place in the quarterfinals. he is 9-6 place in the quarterfinals. he is 9—6 up againstjimmyjones. any other match, judge rupp is up 5—2 against tom ford. raphael odell says it was emotional after he reached round two of the madrid open. only a second tournament this season but the ease passed a 16—year—old american dharma and blanche, only losing one game in a straight set

victory. the champion indicated he plans to retire after the season and says he will only play at the french open if he feels capable enough to compete. geraint thomas will be the lead rider for the ineos grenadiers in cycling's first grand tour of the year, the giro d'italia. the former tour de france champion missed out on victory in the giro last year by just 1a seconds to slovenia's primoz roglic. if thomas does come out on top this time, he'll be the oldest winner of the giro at 38. the race gets under way near turin a week on saturday and will end in the rome on the 26th of may. and that's all the sport for now. quick update on the football, 95 minutes to look clock there and city still leave brighton 4—0. that's the sport. hello there. there were two different types of weather across the country for thursday, neither being warm. across england and wales,

there was a lot of cloud around with some patches of rain and these grey skies, the rain, was all tied in with an area of low pressure out in the north sea. you can see the extent of the cloud here. further north, though, we had much brighter weather in scotland with some lengthy spells of sunshine. so if you wanted the sunnier weather, scotland was the place to be. however, we did see some of those brighter skies push in into northern ireland and northern england through the afternoon. now, overnight, we've got a few patches of rain to come and go across southern areas of england, perhaps south wales as well. away from that, most of the uk having clearing skies, especially during the second part of the night, becomes largely dry, and there will be quite a widespread frost in rural areas. so we are looking at a cold and a frosty start to the day for many on friday. but overall, it's a much brighter day with more in the way of sunshine. the exception southern england, where there is the threat of some rain, especially in the southwest. and through the afternoon we'll see some showers break out. they'll become quite widespread, but especially across northern and eastern scotland and eastern areas of england. wherever you are, we're looking

at another chilly day for the time of year, with temperatures well around about 8—11; degrees. now, this weekend will see an area of low pressure move up from the south. and this brings with it the threat of some rain. now, on saturday, the rain will be affecting southern england across parts of wales, the midlands and east anglia. there will be a chilly wind gusting into the 25 miles an hour, not desperately strong, but given those low temperatures, the wind, i think, will make it feel that bit colder. for northern ireland, scotland and northern england, after a cold and frosty start, again, we're looking at an afternoon of sunny spells and passing showers, some of the showers having a bit of hail mixed in and temperatures below average once again. the second part of the weekend, the same area of low pressure threatens some rain across eastern england. now, there is a chance this rain could be a bit more extensive across the midlands and slower to clear, but away from that area, again, after a cold and locally frosty start, we're looking at some sunny spells and a number of showers, especially across the north and the west of the country. temperatures continue to run below

average for the time of year. however, as we get into next week, if you're fed up with this chilly weather, it does look like we'll see something of a change to much milder weather conditions. however, it's not necessarily dry. there will be some rain and showers around next week.

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