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really huge on hamas m really huge on hamas to acce-t this. hamas have agreed to the terms of a us—brokered ceasefire. but what is it they have agreed to? and did the evolution of that plan go beyond what the israelis were prepared to accept? tonight the government injerusalem says no deal. we will bring you reaction from israel, and from our international editorjeremy bowen. president macron wants the europeans to be more assertive. what does that mean for france's relationship with china? xi jinping has arrived today in paris for a two—day visit we will get the low down on what was discussed. and houston, we have ironed out the problems. the boeing starliner, is being fuelled and prepared for blast off, its first manned mission to the space station. good evening. hamas leaders have said they have
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agreed to a ceasefire proposal, put forward by egypt and qatar. the news sparked celebration in gaza, but it may be premature. the israelis are saying tonight the deal is not acceptable because they had agreed with the americans as far back as february a deal that has now been softened. what we know about this proposal is that it sets out a three—stage process each lasting 42 days. the first would lead to the release of 33 hostages, in return for palestinian prisoners, and a partial israeli withdrawal. the second would lead to the release of all other living hostages, there are thought to be 128 still alive. and the third phase would see a return of the bodies. the israeli defence minister said this morning that the decision to expand the assault on rafah had been taken because hamas had rejected their ceasefire terms. so this has come as a surprise to the government injerusalem. let's cross straight to our security correspondent frank gardner who's injerusalem. frank, bring us up to speed on the
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reaction injerusalem. frank, bring us up to speed on the reaction in jerusalem._ reaction in jerusalem. things here are moving _ reaction in jerusalem. things here are moving incredibly _ reaction in jerusalem. things here are moving incredibly fast. - reaction in jerusalem. things herei are moving incredibly fast. almost every minute, there is a new update, and i should tell you that the latest is that a senior palestinian official, unnamed, has told our correspondent, one of my colleagues, that one of the things under consideration, and this is quite extraordinary, that hamas is even considering a long—term cessation of hostilities, giving up the armed struggle. they have not committed to that yet, though, they need to see the truce before giving up. a long way from that yet, but although i have been urging people to temper things, an awful lot could still go wrong, there are hardliners in the israeli cabinet who do not want any kind of deal with hamas, who simply want to see it hard israeli military push into rafah that eliminates hamas once and for all in their
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eyes. there are others including down the road from here protesters who are lying down in the street demanding a deal, a ceasefire deal, to get the hostages home. the latest version of the steel, as we understand it, is that it will come in two phases, and the first phase would see after 11 days in a partial withdrawal of israeli forces, there would be release of the remaining female is really soldiers, military people who are in captivity —— israeli soldiers. and i should correct something from our, it is not 128 still alive, it is believed that 34 not 128 still alive, it is believed that 3a of not 128 still alive, it is believed that 34 of 128 not 128 still alive, it is believed that 3a of 128 art still alive. so there are believed to be 90 hostages are alive in gaza held by hamas and its hostages. the complicated
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processes. each one of the female is really soldiers who were released, there would be 50 palestinian prisoners released, women, from israeli jails, including some with life sentences. and this is really about confidence building, it is a step—by—step process. the ultimate aim is to have a sustained period of calm and no hostilities. that is a heck of a big ask, because there will be enormous suspicion here in israel that hamas or palestinian islamichhad orany israel that hamas or palestinian islamichhad or any other group will not stick to this, that there will not stick to this, that there will be rockets logged across the border, and then israel will say, the whole thing is off, so there's an awful lot that could go wrong, but the prize is there now, out in the distance, at the top of the hill, peoplejust have the distance, at the top of the hill, people just have that much of the hill to get to it. just quickly, is there anything _ the hill to get to it. just quickly, is there anything in _
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the hill to get to it. just quickly, is there anything in the - the hill to get to it. just quickly, is there anything in the terms i the hill to get to it. just quickly, l is there anything in the terms that have been agreed, and as you say some of the detail is quite difficult to get our heads around at this point, but have you heard anything there that the is reallys were not expecting? fine anything there that the is reallys were not expecting?— were not expecting? one thing i should add _ were not expecting? one thing i should add is _ were not expecting? one thing i should add is that _ were not expecting? one thing i should add is that what - were not expecting? one thing i should add is that what is - should add is that what is being talked about from the palestinian side is an end to the blockade in gaza, that could be something that, if that means demanding free passage for palestinians to go in and out of gaza to israel, and that is not clear if it necessarily does until that, but if it is that there is no way i can see benjamin netanyahu's government agreeing to that, because they have settled everybody into the gaza strip for security reasons, they say, in the past to stop suicide bombers who have come through that border and blown themselves up at bus stations in tel aviv. but the people in gaza live in intolerable conditions, it has been
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called the biggest open—air prison in the world, and it is an unsustainable situation in the long term. . ~ . ~ unsustainable situation in the long term. . ~ ., , . ., term. frank, thank you very much for that. after that news broke and shortly after the israelis had rejected the agreement, the us department of state spokesperson matthew miller was happens next. here's what he had to say. ican i can confirm that hamas has issued a response. — i can confirm that hamas has issued a response, we are reviewing the response — a response, we are reviewing the response now to discussing it with our partners in the region. as you know, _ our partners in the region. as you know. our— our partners in the region. as you know, our director is in the region working _ know, our director is in the region working on— know, our director is in the region working on this in real time, we will be — working on this in real time, we will be discussing this response with our— will be discussing this response with our partners over the coming hours _ with our partners over the coming hours we — with our partners over the coming hours. we continue to believe that a hostage _ hours. we continue to believe that a hostage deal is in the best interests of the israeli people, it is in the — interests of the israeli people, it is in the best interest of the palestinian people, it would bring an immediate ceasefire and allow increased — an immediate ceasefire and allow increased movement of humanitarian assistance, _ increased movement of humanitarian assistance, so we will continue to work— assistance, so we will continue to work to— assistance, so we will continue to work to try— assistance, so we will continue to work to try to reach one. with me in the studio is our international editorjeremy bowen.
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what we don't know at the moment, convoluted messages all round, but we know that the cia chief bill burns is over there, so how do you reflect on the idea that israel did not see this coming?— reflect on the idea that israel did not see this coming? well, i think that israel was _ not see this coming? well, i think that israel was working _ not see this coming? well, i think that israel was working on... - not see this coming? well, i think that israel was working on... this | that israel was working on... this is guesswork, of course, but based on the kind of things that have been said, i think israel's assumption was that the head of hamas and gaza was that the head of hamas and gaza was not interested in doing any kind of a deal, but he wanted to continue with this, and that in a sense made life a lot simpler for benjamin netanyahu, who has been under a lot of pressure from his own right wing to do this operation in gaza, and don't forget these are the right—wingers who sustain his government. without them, government false, and that is a very big deal for him, clearly. so the phrase i keep hearing from people, people i speak to, other reports as well, is that now the border is very much in
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benjamin netanyahu's court, their bluff has been called. i think we can probably take it one stage further and say the goal is injoe biden's court, because he is the one who, if the americans decided that this is the real he had agreed to, they will say, come on now, do it, because the americans we want this to happen. it is hurting joe biden politically to keep supporting israel in the way that he has —— the ball is in his court. this israel in the way that he has -- the ball is in his court.— ball is in his court. as well as that, americans _ ball is in his court. as well as that, americans are - ball is in his court. as well as that, americans are put - ball is in his court. as well as that, americans are put a - ball is in his court. as well as that, americans are put a lot| that, americans are put a lot of focus on the day after, the normalisation of saudi arabia, he has king abdullah and the white house today, phone calls left and right to try to get this over the line, they will all look at him and say, ok, here we are, what are you going to do to force it over the line? . . ~ going to do to force it over the line? ., ., ,, ., ., line? yeah, and i think that now, i have been — line? yeah, and i think that now, i have been listening _ line? yeah, and i think that now, i have been listening to _ line? yeah, and i think that now, i have been listening to the - line? yeah, and i think that now, i have been listening to the white i have been listening to the white house briefing and so on, and they
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are using similarforms of house briefing and so on, and they are using similar forms of words, they are saying that burns, the head of the cia, he has been in doha are talking to the qatar prime minister all day long, is what i have been told, so it seems strange that some israelis are saying this is not the deal we agreed to, it has been softened in some way, but there's an awful lot of chatter about that going on right now, but i would imagine if anybody is completely across every layer of the negotiation, it is the head of the cia, and if he is the same, and we don't know what he is sane, but if he is saying this is more or less the deal, i have heard from other diplomatic sources in dull heart that hamas has more or less agreed to what israel had agreed to with some very small changes here and
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there. so that could cover a multitude of detail. the israelis thin . multitude of detail. the israelis thin to multitude of detail. the israelis thing to do _ multitude of detail. the israelis thing to do they _ multitude of detail. the israelis thing to do they have _ multitude of detail. the israelis thing to do they have had - thing to do they have had two targets. that can be seen in two ways, first without softening up rafah for ground offensive that they have said is coming, or you could see it as they are running out of time. , ., �* ., see it as they are running out of time. �* ., �* ., ., .,, time. joe biden said earlier today and has call _ time. joe biden said earlier today and has call with _ time. joe biden said earlier today and has call with benjamin - time. joe biden said earlier today - and has call with benjamin netanyahu that there must be no ground operation in rafah civilian lives, surrounding very about that, of the americans —— no ground operation in rafah of that in dangerous civilian lives, so they are being very clear about that, the americans. generally, thank you for talking to
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us. ., generally, thank you for talking to us. ., ., generally, thank you for talking to us. ., ., ., ., generally, thank you for talking to us. -- no ground operation in rafah that endangers _ us. -- no ground operation in rafah that endangers civilian _ us. -- no ground operation in rafah that endangers civilian lives. - a day that would end with hopeful news began with foreboding. leaflets telling people to go. irrespective of what is being negotiated in cairo, palestinian civilians have begun leaving parts of eastern rafah in gaza, after israel ordered 100,000 people to leave an area in the eastern districts of the town. the idf say they struck more than 50 "terror targets" in rafah on monday, just hours after that evacuation order was issued. pictures we've received show thick smoke rising as the evacuation began. those leaving rafah are being told to move to what israel described as �*expanded humanitarian zones' in the al—mawasi and khan younis areas further north. fergal keane has the latest.
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a day that would end with hopeful news began with foreboding. leaflets telling people to go. many have been displaced before, but still they were told to leave. everyone, no matter how old, how young, or how vulnerable. to other desolate places beyond rafah. the so—called humanitarian zones were to be expanded. but they have never been safe from sickness, hunger, orwar. these may have been some of the last air strikes. if the ceasefire can be made to work, 11 houses hit in rafah. the ceasefire news was hours away yet. this women, a mother and refugee. the orders to leave came amid stalled talks
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and violent signals. hamas attacked israeli troops near the main crossing here yesterday, killing three soldiers. israel struck the lodgers. and before the hamas announcement, was still determined to keep fighting. one thing which we won't allow is for hamas to remain standing at the end of this work. if that happens, it will be a disastrous consequence for israel. today, they buried the latest of rafah's dead. an orphan grieved by his relative. translation: his family was killed | during the war, even he was killed. | such images have dominated the world. the news about a ceasefire will give some hope that these might be among the last. fergal keane, bbc news, jerusalem.
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let's speak to bradley bowman, senior director of fdd�*s centre on military and political power. he was a former blackhawk pilot and 15 year veteran of the us army. we are being told that the ceasefire talks went on sunday and monday, and the latest proposal that hamas agreed to was moved to the israelis on april 27 of no changes to major parts of it, so what do you think the disagreement is tonight? the outlines of the disagreement is tonight? tue: outlines of what the disagreement is tonight? he outlines of what hamas the disagreement is tonight? tt9 outlines of what hamas have reportedly agreed to are unclear, as you have been reporting, and i would suspect that a lot of the disagreement, if there is some, centred on whether it is a temporary or permanent ceasefire. obviously hamas wants it ceasefire mac permanent ceasefire so that they can
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continue and have another october seven in the future. to israel, that is unacceptable, they want to reduce some of the pressure coming from washington, but sooner or later they will want to go into rafah and get the remaining battalions there so they cannot do again what they did on seventh october. but they cannot do again what they did on seventh october.— they cannot do again what they did on seventh october. but the problem is the white — on seventh october. but the problem is the white house _ on seventh october. but the problem is the white house would _ on seventh october. but the problem is the white house would see - on seventh october. but the problem is the white house would see it, - on seventh october. but the problem is the white house would see it, is i is the white house would see it, is if there is an expanded operation in rafah, all of the potential that there is in this proposal would disappear, not to mention the day after proposals that have been talking about with the saudis. tt is talking about with the saudis. it is interesting. _ talking about with the saudis. te 3 interesting, often the idf operations, particularly those about going into rafah, are characterised as the problem. i would say that is probably the reason that if we are at a deal, that we have a deal. if hamas can sit there in safety and not worry about anything, why would
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they ever negotiate in good faith? i would see if anything is pushing hamas to actually negotiate it is probably as real dropping leaflets saying they are coming. 50 probably as real dropping leaflets saying they are coming.— probably as real dropping leaflets saying they are coming. so for you, the deal that _ saying they are coming. so for you, the deal that hamas _ saying they are coming. so for you, the deal that hamas has _ saying they are coming. so for you, the deal that hamas has accepted l the deal that hamas has accepted tonight, perhaps they did not agree with all the terms, but it was the last liferaft with plans for rafah now unfolding? t last liferaft with plans for rafah now unfolding?— now unfolding? i am simply suggesting _ now unfolding? i am simply suggesting hypotheses - now unfolding? i am simply suggesting hypotheses that j now unfolding? i am simplyl suggesting hypotheses that i now unfolding? i am simply - suggesting hypotheses that i think withstand scrutiny, that is really military operations are one of the reasons why if we get a deal, we have got a deal —— israeli military operations. whilst hamas negotiate in good faith when israel is increasingly isolated on the international stage? put increasingly isolated on the international stage? increasingly isolated on the international state? ., :, :, international stage? put that to one side for a second _ international stage? put that to one side for a second comedy _ international stage? put that to one side for a second comedy ball - international stage? put that to one | side for a second comedy ball almost certainly now in benjamin netanyahu's court, and as our international editorjeremy bowman was a saying, there's a certain
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amount that needs to be discussed in washington now, joe biden has delivered a proposal that hamas have accepted, how does he get it over the line? :, :, ~' accepted, how does he get it over the line? :, :, ,, , accepted, how does he get it over the line? , . ., the line? took me, it is unclear whether there _ the line? took me, it is unclear whether there is _ the line? took me, it is unclear whether there is alignment - the line? took me, it is unclear - whether there is alignment between what the joe biden whether there is alignment between what thejoe biden administration has wanted and what hamas has agreed to. took me, that is tbd, and i think that daylight, if there is any, between what the joe think that daylight, if there is any, between what thejoe biden administration has offered and what hamas have accepted is... i think a lot of it will come down to the permanent versus temporary, because thatis permanent versus temporary, because that is a fundamental point of tension, obviously, between israel and the ted organisation hamas. aha, and the ted organisation hamas. a quick line of copy here from reuters, benjamin netanyahu saying the war cabinet has met and has decided that israel will continue its operations in rafah to pressure hamas into releasing hostages. it also says that although the hamas
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proposal is far from a meeting israel's demands, israel will send a working delegation to negotiate further. there are obviously two options before the israeli cabinet at the moment, one is to get of the battalions in rafah, the other is to bring the hostages home, but a lot of people say of those two objectives are mutually incompatible. t objectives are mutually incompatible.— objectives are mutually incompatible. objectives are mutually incomatible. :, , :, :, incompatible. i am putting forward the suggestion _ incompatible. i am putting forward the suggestion that _ incompatible. i am putting forward the suggestion that i _ incompatible. i am putting forward the suggestion that i don't - incompatible. i am putting forward the suggestion that i don't think i the suggestion that i don't think they are, i think israeli military operations, the actual conduct of those operations and the threat of additional operations, applies pressure on hamas to deal in good faith as much as a terrorist organisation can do that, and dealing in good faith means at least a temporary ceasefire and the release of some of the hostages. thank you for coming on the programme. around the world and across the uk, you are watching bbc
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news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. scotla nd scotland has a new leaderfor the scottish national party. john swinney has been confirmed in the role after no challenge has now emerged. he will also now become scotland's first minister. he succeeds outgoing first minister humza yousaf who resigned after the collapse of his coalition government. the boss of eurotunnel has insisted i will not be long queues of cars at its terminals when a new eu travel system starts in october. british people heading to and from europe will need to register fingerprints and a photo at the border, which has prompted warnings of delays. military celebrations have been taking place in london and around the uk today to mark the first anniversary of the coronation of king charles and queen camilla. gun salutes were heard across london, with 41 volleys fired at noon via the king's true royal
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horse artillery, the pictures from green park there. the king recently returned to public engagements. you are watching bbc news. the presidents of france, china, and the european commission have been holding talks in paris, where ukraine and trade were dominating discussions. in opening remarks at the elysee palace, emmanuel macron told xi jinping that coordination with china on ukraine and the middle east was crucial. the europeans are hoping to persuade china's leader to refrain from supplying russia with potential war materials. he's urged the eu to remain committed to a partnership with china amid tensions over trade. isabel hilton is the founder of the china dialogue and visiting professor at the lau institute, and she's been giving me her assessment on the situation. i think china likes to present itself as mediator. and in fact, it put forward, about a year ago, it put forward what it
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called a peace plan, which was really a series of bullet points. what china doesn't do is the act of diplomacy that's required actually to mediate. and the problem with china is mediating. yes, china has enormous influence on putin because putin essentially couldn't survive without xi jinping. but xijinping wants putin to survive. and the fact that china has given diplomatic and economic cover to putin for two years now doesn't really inspire confidence in ukraine that whatever china were to propose would be to their advantage. i think that whilst they would like china to use its influence, i don't think they would trust china to come up with an offer that that ukraine would find acceptable. so it's pretty mixed. but again, you know, china's been very passive in this, and there's not much sign that china's going to get more active at all. it's interesting to me that he brought ursula von der leyen into the discussions today
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and of course they travelled together, i think it was last year, to china, but she seems to take a more hawkish position vis a vis china than perhaps chancellor schulz does. ursula von der leyen definitely takes more hawkish position. she has initiated a whole series of trade probes, for example, at the request of macron. but i don't think schulz is very happy with them. he doesn't, you know, he's more concerned about preserving the trade that germany does have with china rather than being as assertive as the commission would now like to be over things like subsidies. but the imbalance of trade and the threat to the european economies is such that that von der leyen is now pretty robust on this. xijinping would much rather deal with macron. he'd much rather deal with schulz. he would definitely not prefer not to have to deal
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with ursula von der leyen. of course, yeah, i was just going to say this comes quite, quite quickly on the back of president macron's speech at the sorbonne the other week, in which he talked about europe needing to be more assertive to defend its own interests. so presumably ursula von der leyen was was brought in with that very much in mind. well, i think that she was there because the, for example, the trade probes are very active. and, you know, if we're looking to have a constructive conversation with china, there are a number of serious structural issues that have to be resolved. now, macron is popular with xi jinping because of this talk of strategic autonomy for europe, and that's a very long—standing french position. if you remember, general de gaulle was pretty anti—american, and he regarded the european union as a kind of force multiplier for french influence.
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and macron is very much in the same mould. and that is absolutely music to xijinping's ears, because what xi jinping wants to do is to divide the european union from the united states. it does not want to face an alliance of washington and brussels, let alone all the other european capitals. so it's greatly to china's advantage to encourage macron in the the idea that europe needs to be strategic and autonomous, and that means from the united states. that's what he's trying to bring about. day two of that summit taking place tomorrow in the pyrenees. we are focusing tonight on events in the middle east, a fast situation tonight with news that hamas has accepted the terms of the ceasefire deal that prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying in the last few minutes the war cabinet has decided to continue its operations in rafah
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to continue its operations in rafah to pressure hamas into releasing hostages, and will not be accepting the ceasefire. these are the live pictures in rafah, a little more subdued than the other celebrations we saw, and in the last few minutes, we saw, and in the last few minutes, we have been hearing more targeted air strikes in rafah, quite a busy day in terms of the military picture in rafah. we will continue to watch that, stay with us. hello. we've seen further drenching downpours in some parts of the uk this bank holiday monday, but the weather looks set to calm down over the next few days. something more settled, drier, and warmer, developing through this week as high pressure starts to build its way in from the west. as we move through tonight, still this area of low pressure fairly close by, so we'll keep some showers going for a time, particularly down towards the south—east of england, where for some it has been a pretty wet day. the rain here taking a time to ease off. most of the showers elsewhere will fade, we'll keep fairly large amounts of cloud,
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and where the skies do clear for any length of time, say across central and southern parts of england, south wales, could see some mist and fog patches. temperatures generally 8—10 celsius as we start tuesday morning. still some showers around on tuesday, but not as many as we've had today. showers most likely, i think, across parts of england and wales, albeit with some spells of sunshine in between. northern ireland and scotland seeing a bit more in the way of cloud, maybe the odd spot of rain here and there. something brighter likely to develop in the north of scotland, 12 celsius for stornoway, 20 celsius there in london. now, as you move through tuesday night and into wednesday, this area of high pressure really starts to take charge. so, for most of us, wednesday is looking like a fine day. it could be some early mist and fog, could be some areas of cloud around first thing, tending to lift and break up to reveal some spells of sunshine. a dry day for most, but we will see some clouds and some patchy rain into parts of northern ireland and north—west scotland,
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a weak weather front approaching here. temperatures, though, 17 for aberdeen, for glasgow, for belfast, 21 likely in london. by thursday, still weak frontal systems across the northern half of scotland. cloud and some patchy rain here. but further south, some spells of sunshine and some warmth, with temperatures in some spots up to 21 or 22 celsius. now, it looks like we'll end the week on a warm note. this area of high pressure still with us for friday. the big question mark is about how quickly this area of high pressure will break down and allow frontal systems back in from the atlantic. the weekend certainly looks like starting off on a fine note, butjust with the increasing chance of some rain pushing in from the west as we get into sunday. there is some uncertainty about that, but it does look like it will eventually turn more unsettled and a bit cooler again into the start of next week.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. extreme flooding affecting countries around the world, we'll be looking at the heavy rain affects british farming. hello from the bbc sport centre. exciting bank holiday monday. we are
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watching the snooker but let's start with the football knows that is broken the last few hours. former spain and wolves boss julen lopetegui has agreed a deal to replace david moyes at west ham. the club has confirmed that moyes will leave at the end of the season when his contract expires. lopetegui left wolves last august after just nine months in charge. his most successful managerial spell was his three years at sevilla where he won the europa league in 2020. under moyes, west ham have twice finished in the top seven — and won the europa conference league, but they have been struggling this season, and haven't won in the past month. there has been success. there's no doubt about that. nobody can argue that. but it is at least i know two years that the clubs were thinking, should they change direction are not? should theyjust keep more spectable to the fans, more posession, more this and that. quite clearly, with the success in last season, they had to stay.

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