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hunt. it's great to be with you sex lies and donald trump on audio tape as the first ever criminal trial of a former president continued for another sorted day, the jury appearing to hanging on every word as that they heard a call between trump and his then lawyer, michael cohen that cohen had secretly recorded here's the tape need to open up a company for the transfer of all the info regarding our friend david i spoke to alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be well, i have to pay yourself getting old on. >> i have to pay with cash trump and his lawyer were seeing conferring and studying the transcript as this plate as for the sex and the lies earlier in the de stormy daniels lawyer was pressed on why her statement back i can 2018 denying a sexual or

romantic affair with trump was technically speaking accurate davidson's answer, quote, i think you'd have to hone in on the definition of romantic sexual and affair. >> davidson said, i don't think that anyone had alleged that any interaction between she and mr. trump was romantic? >> anyone else wondering what definition of is is let's remember, it was jimmy kimmel who pressed stormy daniel's about this very question back in 2018 depending on anything, did you sign this letter that was released today? >> i don't know that wait a minute. >> that you can say with like my signature does, it doesn't look like your signature, so you're saying perhaps this letter was written and released without your approval you know where it came from. do you have any idea? i do not know where

you did not know where it came from? >> here was kimmel last night celebrating what is apparently a national milestone i don't want to brag, but first, we need to do since evidence at the criminal trial for president united states johnny carson and get that one nixon, we got in here. why was i not asked to testify? >> it's outrageous i'm going to start soon, people i don't know. >> i really and i think i could keep trump awake during the trial. one of the all right. >> or panels here, david from the atlantic shore, michael singleton, former deputy chief of staff at hud or republican strategist, former white house senior policy adviser, ashley alison, also democratic strategist. david, i just decided that the only way to deal with any of this is humor because i mean, the, the litany of things we learned yesterday at this trial, taking us all back to this time where trump was grappling with this michael

cohen okay. sorry, it's friday i just hand the floor to you when racing okay. i'm gonna make a serious point because it is absurd and squalid and repulsive situation. here's the serious point and for people were thinking about the future and how they're going to vote. the american political system has found it possible the american legal system to hold trump to account for all of us squalid play a boy apprentice era gross stuff we're good at that, but we're not able to do is to hold him to account for trying to overthrow the government of the united states. those trials are going to be indefinitely postponed. now, trump is nearing at, he's probably passed his squalid playboy high jinx era. maybe not, but probably might imbedded, not going to be moderate a modern medicine is impressive. so he may be able to do other gross but he's not

passed his attacks on government of the united states. so when people tell you, well, the cyst, if he returns office, the system will be able to hold him to account. the institutions will be able to hold them to count, look at what the institutions are able to do and look, at what the institutions are not able to do and ask yourself which of those behaviors is likely to be repeated in future trump presidency is the anti-institutional, the anti constitutional things that he may repeat. and those are the things we have not been able to hold them to account for. >> yeah. i mean, sure. michael is actually it is a very, very good point and this is the reason why everyone who has looked at all of this has viewed this particular trial as potentially the least damaging to trump because if at any if any, if anything, it plays into the hands of him saying this is all ridiculous, right well, it does deny that the delays in these other trials denies the americans the opportunity to know whether or not the justice the system convicted has more convicted of crimes conducted on and around january 6. >> on one point, david hugh hefner was over at i'm just throwing that out there. >> but with that said casey.

>> i mean, you look at our own polling only around 30, 35% of americans say that this trial actually matters particularly when you compare to the other three it's almost certain that the other three are not going to occur until after november. so far this has been salacious, has been interesting is like watching the live reality show in real time. >> but i'm not necessarily certain whether or not it's going to make a difference because most voters look at trump and it's one that surprised, maybe had a couple of mistresses. >> this is billionaire guy hanging out with a lot of play mates. i mean, it's kinda like some guys dream to be the rich guy hanging around with beautiful women. i'm not certain that that's going to translate politically. two people said, well, i don't know if i'm going to necessarily vote for donald trump. so it is in his favorite and i do wonder quickly here will he get a hung jury? because if he does and that gives him the ability to say see this is a political but what all right. >> well, i'm ashley allison. >> i think we should i want to bring in something that we heard from dr.. >> trump on the campaign trail when he did when this trial took a break on wednesday, he went to swing states in

michigan and wisconsin and he made a rather startling admission about something that happened on january 6, which was that he actually did say that he wanted to go to the capital as these rioters were pouring their watch trump remember the person that said, i attacked a secret service agent in the front of the car. >> it's not my df i'm a lover, not a fighter. >> this is crazy stuff i sat in the back and you know what i did say? i said i'd like to go down there because i see a lot of people walking down. they said, sir, it's better if you doubt. i said, well, i'd like to i'd better if you don't. all right. whatever you guys think is fine. that was the whole tone of the conversation. >> and on this trip, ashley, he gave an interview to the milwaukee journal sentinel, where he was asked whether he would accept the results of the election and he says, quote, if everything's honest, i will gladly accept the results. i don't change on that. if it's not, you have to fight for the right of the country yes.

>> one thing on the hush money case, i will just say is that i appreciate there might be a lot of men who want to deal with whatever you said, but there are a lot of women don't want their husbands to cheat on them. so there's a whole other part of the electorate level care about this case for different reasons. to this on a more serious note what this is groundhog day a little bit. he is literally telling us he is going to try and do january 6, 2.0, maybe even a more escalated way that he wanted to go to the capital. we need to be paying attention. i know these cases there are so many, and i know that they can become confusing and you can kinda just become numb to them, but we cannot. this is our country, this is our democracy. we're talking about. and donald trump is literally lighting a flare saying i told you once you didn't believe me out, so i'm telling you twice, it's going to be your fault if you don't an act accordingly yeah. i mean, david, i kind go back to january 6 when we learned there were all of these clues out

there, what was going to happen that de and they were missed one of your one of your colleagues had on j.d. vance on the air? >> we said he seriously doubted that the vice president was was in danger of death, that de so first, that's the bar. the question is, we are now debating whether the president of the united states was intending actually to murder his vice president. maybe, yes, maybe no. >> but the denial also conceals what the plot was on that day and it was to get pants out of town and to get somebody else into the presiding fair, who could say yes to what the vice president correctly was saying no to it. it ended up in violence because the plot didn't went awry. but there was a plot and although it was farfetched, it was not impossible. trump's goal was to throw the election to the house of representatives at where the state's vote, not by person, but by state numbers there's republican delegation gets delegation. republicans have fewer in those days, had fewer representatives, but more states they could have done it.

and that's the plan, by the way, for the election that they have a head is two is one of trump's backup plans is to create these third-party ringers which are funded. the third-party super pacs, not the candidates themselves and subract are funded by republican donors, again, with the hope of denying if trump can't get a majority tonight to somebody else, throw it in the house of representatives, and then use chicanery or even the threat of violence to create result that is not the result of the people are going to vote for the case. >> see if i could quickly say with all of those facts, the fact that donald trump and president biden neuron is assisted or dead. >> he says something and i wonder as i assess politics, who electorally, what, what are we missing why is there such a substantial number of americans were saying this matters? yet, i'm still willing to support the former president over the turn it of enacts substantial. >> ashley, i'm gonna give you a very quick last word on that. why do you think that is if i had to answer that, i wouldn't be so we live in i think that

because of the way that people consume media, i think that it is the way that donald trump, from the very beginning because attacks institutions and still has. >> so this doubt so that when the truth does come out, people are skeptical. >> all right, we have a lot more to talk about today. are panels going to stick around up next the biden administration moving to make dreamers eligible for obamacare benefits plus stunning video as a tornado touches down in central texas, one of the five things you've got to see this morning and to admissions from donald trump won about january 6. and the other about what might happen after the election cnn this morning, brought to you by first sandra, for more information, visit for sen. rad.com missing out on the things you love because of asthma get back to better breathing with the sandra, an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma that is taken in once every eight weeks to sandra is not presented

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children. health and human services secretary javier becerra said is this quote, we're committed to making health coverage accessible for all americans, including dhaka recipients, dreamers who have worked hard to live the american dream and today take a major step toward meeting that goal. the new regulation likely to get pushback from republicans who opposed the idea last year, our panel is back. ashley, let me just go to you on this this clearly, of course, in an election year is something that is going to be viewed through a political lens. but there are a lot of people who are going to have access to something that they previously didn't have yet. >> and i just want to point out these individuals who are going to get that access can actually vote in this election. so this is actually just the government doing thank good work for people who i think overwhelming majority of americans believed that dreamers should have a pathway to citizenship. they were on that pathway for some time and many of these folks have been living in limbo without coverage because of the rollback of daqqa. so this is

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again. we're on our way to an illegal, a population of about 18 million people. if biden serves two terms, there are going to be more and more and more people in this situation to the republican argument, to you, they're basically saying it's true this, it's going to draw more people they're all there already underway here and if president biden is re-elected, that population will continue to grow, assuming no major economic catastrophe. so how, if you're going to tidy up the leftover of the illegal immigration population of the past. you have to make sure that the border is now closed and you're not doubling and redoubling this problem for the future. but right now, we are doubling and redoubling this problem. in the and nothing serious is being done about it. >> and president biden's strategy for the election year escalate to say, well, the republicans shot down the bill i had. now i don't have to think about this and the border is open. >> well, i mean, it certainly is potential as if we talk about the politics of it some fodder for republicans to work with us. they focus on immigration heading into the fall all right. ahead here we've got severe storms bringing major flooding,

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topics since this violence broke out trespassing breaking windows, shutting down campuses forcing the cancelation of classes and graduation. none of this is a peaceful protest dissent is a central to democracy. but to sent must never lead to disorder panelist back david from did president upon wait too long to do this? >> he's acting in full-time, but he needs to act decisively and he needs to understand why he's endangered what everyone gets is if these camps have campuses were shut down by people waving confederate flags, that thing would be over and 30 seconds when campuses or shut down by people waving hamas and hezbollah flags universities get paralyzed. now that's a statement about the weakness of certain liberal institutions. now, obviously everyone i'm sad that president biden doesn't have any sympathy with this but the question people have is, is a question you have about a republican president is does he care? and the question i have about a democratic president is, is he week so we're watching liberal institution show weakness and the hypocrisy and double standards and caving

to violence, allowing people to have wristbands and say, if you don't agree with our protests, you can't use the library. but if you do use it you can't wear the wristband. you can mean that jewish students can't go to the library at ucla, uc violence. and we see the collapse of the university administration and the questions is the president strong or as the president week, biden has to speak and speak firmly and clearly and say, this is not 2020 repeating itself. i will be firm in support of law and order. >> i do think we should not many of the flags that these folks are flying are palestinian flags, but we've seen instances where people tried to tear down the american flag and put up a palestinian flags instead ashley alison for the president. i mean how do you see this is clearly it took them so long to do this because it's a really tough position for him to be in between. many in the base of his party who are very focused on the legitimately focused on the humanitarian plight of children in gaza. and want to protest

about it. >> but he's also running a general election. and the reality is these protests, as david points out, we've seen anti-semitism rear, it's very ugly head in many of them and we've seen violence. did he do the right thing here? is he striking the right balance? and should he have done this? sooner well, i think he waited because he was hoping that it wouldn't continue that there was that it would get under control. >> it would be able to be handled on a case-by-case basis in the university in that obviously has not happened. it has spread. i would probably advised him i don't think this is going to end. it's going to jump around to campus, campus. so we probably should get ahead the thing though that we have to remember is that classes are coming to an end soon, but there's this summer and then classes resume in the fall. and the reason why many of the people are protesting is because to your point, the war in gaza, civilian people want hostage release, but they also want innocent civilians not to be killed in gaza and humanitarian aid to get there. and if by the summer, we don't

are very soon, we don't see a resolution to the protests are not going to end. so the question is that he was asked at the end of the press conference, was is this going to change any of your policy positions? and he said no? so the reason why we're in this situation because people want him to change his policy positions and he is you have to pick up whether you agree with him or not. and i think he should re-evaluate. i think he should be calling for a ceasefire as well as the release of the hostages. i think we're going to concede. see this continue because there's a lot of people who are not aligned with him and those people who are not aligned with him are people who voted for him in 2020 and they need, he needs them to vote for him again in 2024. so it is a tough situation. but leaders have to make decisions that he's making a call now. and it could cost him the election. >> i'm so i absolutely take your point about people who were with him in 2020 who are upset about it now. but the reality is most people are going to have to choose between biden and donald i'll trump, right? that's the choice that's out there. this was this was david brooks writing in the new york times. he says, quote

especially since 2016, it's become clear if you live in a university town, are one of the many cities along the coast, were highly educated people tend to congregate. >> that's us will displeasure. >> you can't use your own experience to generalize about american politics. in fact, if you're guided by instincts and values honed and such let's places. you may not be sensitive to the ways the movement is alienating voters and working class areas of pennsylvania wisconsin, michigan, and georgia. you may come across them as privileged kids, breaking the rules and getting away with it, see right logi is rightly the guys of many working class blue collar people. >> they see these wealthy kids at institutions like columbia that cause 90,000 vowels a year complaining about what's going on in palestine and talking about you must divest. you're seeing images are certain students and what we should have food and water and add to give us these things as an infringement of our rights. >> and people to look at these spoiled bratty kids, with that said, if i revise and president biden, i was on tuesday and harry enten i was talking about in and pull the showcased only 3% of voters, 35 and younger are actually concerned about

this issue in 2020, 38% they were actually concerned about it or was it that they like the top of their list if no, it's not a top issue. yeah. >> what i mean in terms of them being concerned, they're worried about the economy in a plethora of other issues, right? 38% of you young voters in 2020, casey voted for president biden i am under no inclination that the majority of those voters, all of a sudden going to vote for president trump in november, i think a lot of them are still going to stick with the president, whether they like his position on this issue or not. and so if i were biden ashley, i wouldn't recommend that the president can changes its position on this because the older voters that he'll need some of those swing voters, they do want the us to support israel let's just play that. i'm sorry, go ahead. jump in. i'll play this. >> i understand. donald trump is is compared to joe biden is a very clear and distinct choice. i think what people are doing right now is making voters mega unnecessary choice

right now, people are not going to the polls to vote for president. and so when you say, when a voter is saying to you, this is where i want you to be on an issue and i want you to listen to then turn and say, but other guy is worse, is not landing with people and it is that strategy is actually, it's not just young people. this is an issue that is spreading across the coalition. and i don't think the comparison that donald trump is worse than joe biden. we're seeing it. it's not it's not resonating with both professors want biden to loot. they prefer trump to biden because what they want to show the protesters for trump divide. not that's true. >> what they're doing here is 2020 all over again you create images of disorder you create that raises the question, is the president strong enough now the 2020 disturbances happened during the donald trump presidency. it was on trump's watch. he was to blame. he was the one who was not controlling controlling situation. if the george floyd protests. yeah. >> urban riots, these attacks on stores, the looting a big box stores. it created an and people see these things on their phone. they don't know

the difference between a huge riot involves lots of people and a small disturbance on a college campus. it looks disorderly. and when it's disorderly, you drive people away from the democratic candidate because people we'll have this question is the democratic candidate strong enough? so it's really, really important and it's much more important for democrat than republican to be strong and say, i oppose any kind of disorder you want to express yourself peaceful. you have a petition. you want to run for office. you want to write a letter to the editor. go ahead. you want to set up barricades on campus and threatened people who walk across. what is their property and not your property. you want to say, we had our little group of taken over the set of ucla and we decide to walk here and the authorities are too weak to protect public safety that hurts a democratic president must use very clear. i am here to enforce the law. >> i just want to be clear that the protests that happened in 2020 were because we a black men execute it for minutes unjustly that police officer was convicted of that death and

that's why the world saw the largest uprising around racial justice in 2020. it wasn't because they wanted, they wanted unrest. it was because they wanted justice because there was a police system that unjustly killed a black. >> but this does play into donald trump's best june about carnage and chaos across the country. >> i want to say briefly, we talk a little bit about the motivations of these protests with what they want. do they want trump or not? i don't i don't want to get into that and i doubt that the people that are perpetrating the violence want donald trump to get elected. but i think your point about how the impact and i'll let you make the point that i think you're getting to the impact is to help him, right? >> yeah, i know it will because his kids continuous messaging for months of been the economy's terrible under joe biden, there's moons of people coming across the border. we may be on the brink of world war three, which we know isn't true and now you look at constant media coverage of college campuses being in disarray. you see some of these individuals attacking police officers. i don't think those are students is probably outside agitators, but it goes

to trump's point that under joe biden's leadership, the country is chaotic, is this what you want another four years of most voters are going to say absolutely not when i think that's also an important point, david, that there is clearly some outside agitation here, right? like when we look at the numbers of the people arrested at hamilton hall on columbia, it's like close to half of them were outsiders at portland state are only for students who are arrested at the library compared to a number of outsiders. yeah. well, but the university's of course know this. they know who the people are they're part of para campus communities would have the thing that biden is wearing is that university administrators are not prepared to enforce their own law rules against certain groups. as i said, if they were, these people are wearing waving confederate flags, the rules would be the rules. they would be enforced when other flags, the rules are not the rules and they're not enforced and everybody he gets that. their it's their weakness that caused the problem. and president biden, look, present. biden is no friend. any terrorist organization he's obviously a staunch supporter of israel. he's lifelong career fighting bigotry of all

kinds, including anti-semitism. that's not the question. the question is, is he firm enough because his political coe, partisans, they are showing themselves week in the face of things they would otherwise act against. >> all right we've got a lot more coming up next here, a civil war era ban on abortion has now been repealed in arizona will get to our morning roundup up next. >> plus, it's friday, which means we have a great michael smerconish to talk to us about everything that's going on i the news. stay with us when you're the leader. is that the clean up on restoration? how do you make like it never even happened? >> happened brandi whatever comes your way. there's a pro for that. serve bro like it

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winning actress michelle yeoh and republican kelly daughtry, ending hurt campaign 12 days before a run-off primary election for north carolina's 13th congressional district she did it after donald trump endorsed for opponents all right after a week of intense violent protests on college campuses across the country over the war in gaza. >> president biden has broken his silence while i'm protest is not protected. peaceful protest is it's against the law when violence occurs here though, is how senator bernie sanders framed it. >> he had a warning for the president about what he thinks unrest could do to his reelection bid. >> this may be biden's vietnam or lyndon johnson in many respects, was a very, very good president domestically brought forth some major pieces of

legislation you chose not to run in 68 because of opposition to his views on vietnam and i worry very much president biden is putting himself in a position where he has alienated not just young people, but a lot of the democratic base all right there's a lot there joining me now is michael smerconish. she has a cnn political commentator and the host if cnn smerconish mecole, always grateful to have, you what do you make of what bernie sanders had to stay there i think there's some truth in it. i may come to that conclusion for different reasons then senator sanders, because i understand that the president is trying to appease different constituencies, but i think he needs to air more on the law and order sayyed than he did in his remarks yesterday. >> i think his focus needs to be more on working class voters in pennsylvania and michigan, and wisconsin. then those student protests testers who are part of the democratic

constituency as well the school year is now ending. the war is not an casey. i think that xd unknown is rafah, because prime minister netanyahu has said that regardless of any ceasefire, that ground invasion is going to go forward. that's not going to be printed three and i think it could ensure that the unrest spills right into chicago. and that's where i agree with senator sanders that the unrest could be hubert humphrey in the making do not see that? >> in vietnam we had the draft. i mean, that just seems like this fundamental difference to me in terms of what is driving these protests and in terms of the depth of this, i mean, we do see in some of our cnn polling that this is not while yes, it's very animating to the segment of the president's base. it's not something that like broad swaths of people put at the very top of their list of things that they're worried about true.

>> and thankfully, there are no american boots on the ground, which is your point relative to the draft here's what are the naughty aspects of all of this i mean, it actually benefits donald trump. i think to be portrayed, i can't believe i'm about to save this. the guy who inspired the mayhem of january 6 might be perceived by some as the candidate of stability the one who's not going to allow the unrest, even though he's the one who caused the unrest of january 6. i mean, that's that's sort of the insanity of the cycle in which we're now living so speaking of january 6, michael, we showed earlier in the show comments that donald trump, meidum, wisconsin, where he acknowledged that he actually did asked his secret service detail in that car as he was leaving the ellipse to take him to the capitol on january 6. >> this has become a very disputed incident. there's there was testimony that he at one point tried to grab the steering wheel that particular

portion of it has been particularly disputed. but i thought it was very remarkable that he came out and acknowledged college that i mean, what does that say to you in terms of donald trump's sort of positioning of there has been an evolution on how he talks about january 6. and we are now in a place where he is basically making the people who did that that day out to be heroes. >> right? including a willingness to pardon those who've been convicted of january 6 or otherwise face trial if he's returned to office, one of the things that i worry about as we get together on fridays and thank you for the invitation because i too look forward to it. >> how does i look back at the week that's now coming to a close? >> i say to myself, there's so much news that there are too many important things that are getting lost in translation, not the least of which is what he said in that time interview in terms of how he'll govern and the prospect of violence, should he lose yeah and just to be clear about that, i mean, he said in that time interview that if it were a fair

election, he could guarantee that there would be no violence. >> and he also repeated those comments when he spoke to a paper in wisconsin where he again said that if it's not right, we're going to have to fight. i mean, you use the word fight. >> do you think that if he loses there will be violence i sure hope not. i sure hope the election comes to a firm conclusion on november 5th. >> i thought that those words mirrored what we heard at the ellipse at the beginning of the whole day and the events of january. >> so we're gonna we're gonna fight like hell, right? we're going to march down there. we're going to fight like hell, i'm paraphrasing, but i think i'm i'm pretty close. so here we are a couple of years later and the language hasn't even changed, notwithstanding all of the indictments that surrounded yeah. >> michael, before i let you go, i do want to ask you about kristi noem. she is still out and about defending what she

put in her book about shooting her dog, cricket. here's what she told. >> hanadi on thursday the reason it's in the book is because this book is filled with tough, challenging decisions that i've had to make throughout my life. and i hope that people understand from this that what the point of the story is, is that most politicians, they will run from the truth they will shy away and hide from making tough decisions. i don't do either of those do you think that deciding to not just put down this dog, but then to write about it in her book that's just a tough decision. >> it just really makes me sad i accept none of that. the only explanation that makes any sense is that the story was out in south dakota. >> she was trying to get ahead of the curve. she thought she would tell it on her terms and try and make it part of a narrative of what it's like to live in rural america. it

backfired. but that is not a story that one volunteers unless you suspect in a vetting process, it's going to come out. and i'm going to try and put my spin on it first. >> all right. fair enough. michael smerconish, always very much. enjoy having you. thank you very much. i hope i'll see you thank you. >> and everybody should watch smerconish just show on cnn saturday mornings. thank you very much let's just i want to stick with kristinoem for a second day because you clearly had reaction. >> i've never seen a governor of a state do apo drop on a dog rnc cricket was no angel. let me tell you that. light like she's she's like this merging this dog from 20 years ago, i was talking to a friend of mine this past weekend who's a successful ghost writer. and he charges very high fees. two important clients, and i said you now have a new argument with kristi noem is you can say, look, i'm charging do not just for what i put in your book, but for what i tell you to leave out of your book i mean, like any chance that she thought she had to be trump's

vp in her name has circulated. that's not going to happen. people love their dogs. casey, i get it. my my my uncle owns a form and louisiana i get rural life talk to him about this. and he was just like, yeah, that's just not something that i ever recall doing even with my father, your great grandfather, that just isn't really a thing. >> so this excuse. >> i don't by i think michelson was right. i think this was going to leak out and more than likely her advisor said, look, we need to try to spin this, maintain the store on our own terms and it backfire completely yeah. >> all right. let's take a detour because we're gonna we're gonna come back to all the dogs that we know and love at the table at the end of the show. but first i want to talk more about donald trump acknowledging that he did ask his secret service detail to take him to the capitol on january 6, as we discussed with michael, this has been as we've said, a disputed but central park part of the january 6 committees findings on the president action presidents actions that day, trump had tried to refute testimony from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson when she claimed

that trump lunged at the secret service driver who refused to take them i'm to the capitol watch remember the person that said i attacked a secret service agent in the front of the car it's not my df i'm a lover, not a fighter. >> this is crazy stuff i sat in the back and you know what i did say? i said i'd like to go down there because i see a lot of people walking down. they said, sir, it's better if you doubt and say, well, i'd like to i'd better view it out. all right. whatever you guys think has found that was the whole tone of the conversation. >> so what he did there and trying to deny that he lunged at the driver, david from is acknowledged that he wanted to go. >> no you want cassidy hutchinson, who is the source of the story, always said the store, but the driver was a secondhand story that she she did not she had heard this. >> she had not personally verified with there was a lunge or not, but that but that the president former president, intended to go put himself at the head of this mob attacking the capitol in lead the

insurrection in lead the attack on the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi and his own vice president in person. we now have an adverse own mouth. yes, he wanted to be the leader of this insurrection. >> and let's, let's show actually wait for city hutchinson testified to the president says something to the effect of i'm having president take me up to the capital now which bobby responded. >> sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to crab at the steering wheel mr. angle grabbed his arm, said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capital so again, he was disputing the second half of the store. >> but in doing so, he confirmed the first half what does this tell you about what he might be willing to do in the future it tells me that if

he does not win this election, we are we should be very concerned four how the election gets certified, that he will maybe you won't take to twitter like he did four years ago. >> but to truth, social and charges, supporters to take actions into their own hands. and i think that is we have seen it play out before. we should be on alert. we should make sure that election or workers, everyone that is going to play a role in this election are protected. they are able to do their jobs that voters are able to go and cast their vote, and that whoever wins, let them voters decide, and whoever wins. and i will say, i think it is going to require americans to stand up to donald trump finally, not just democrats and not some republicans, but people in the republican party to say, we love our country and our constitution and our democracy

more than than this man. we will not let him destroy it like he tried to end january 6. >> well, the case i think the former president needs to move on from this strategically. i do not understand why he continues to talk about the election being stolen. i don't know why he dances around. well, if i don't win or if i do when then it's fair if i don't, it's not fair. he's potentially on the cusp but winning by all metrics based on everything that's going on in the country today why continue this? there's no political advantage and sticking with that argument. >> all right. this has been a great discussion, but since it's friday, and because we all love our dogs so much, i want to leave you with this. what is better to bring together are divided country, then man's best friend bipartisan group of lawmakers, has launched the congressional dog lovers caucus. we went to take so long. >> i guess you could call it a pockets. >> that's haha. i see what you guys did there. this comes in response to what we discussed just a few minutes ago, of course, governor kristi noem is revelation that she had shot and killed her own dog congressman jared moskowitz,

anuncing the new caucus. you tweeted this, this group's dedicated to man's best friends aims to foster bipartisan cooperation will help put pause over politics along with a tweet. you can also see photos of moscowitz, his fellow democrat susan wild, and republican nancy mace with their dogs. mayes said in a statement, what we started this caucus mr. champion, legislation that protects the rights and well-being of dogs ensuring they receive the care, respect, and recognition. they deserve i of course, can add to this. this is my dog radar lounging in the grass in our backyard i'm sure you guys all have your own pups at home and david years, ringo is as become famous. yes rico is a dog, was not altogether unproblematic in his behavior that's my daughter said my daughter said of him i've complained about one of ringo's addict. >> she said ringgold loves you. he just doesn't respect you there's ringo, see very is attacking the bucket do that to