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protest. so i'll speak with these young democrats. that's, of course crucial to a biden reelection campaign about that riff, plus this is a story that i think is getting overlooked and it's certainly should not be. this is the death of frank tyson. and officer knelt on his back during an arrest. he's heard on video and police video saying over and over, i can't breathe. we have the video and his fiance, sabrina jones and attorney ben crump are here with me as well, also i love learning new things through this show, and i hope you learned something that every week that you're not seeing on any other show? >> today, it's about the kentucky derby and it's the overlooked black history in horse racing. you'll hear from larry merritt, who is making his own history today as the first black trainer with a horse in this race in decades, always something that i learned while watching. all right, so let's do it right now. let's start the show first of all, it
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is college commencement season and some campus protesters are turning their focus this from occupying the quad to disrupting the pomp and circumstance last night, protesters interrupted a commencement ceremony at the university of michigan police arrived suit after the tactics of the protests, there, polarizing but one statement of solidarity with the pro-palestinian student movement caught my eye this week. it's the college decrats of america this an official branch of the democratic party and it's led by students. uh, you know, to win reelection, president biden needs young voters. so when the infrastructure that exists to get him those votes publicly criticizes the president. it's more than just a statement of support the group also added this college democrats votes are not to be taken for granted by the democratic party. we
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reserve the right to criticize our party when it fails to listen to us with me now, two liters of the college democrats who voted on this solidary solidarity statement. there executive board passed it with a vote of eight to do the burden, voted in favor of it joshua martin voted against it. good to have both of you with me and joshua. let me start here with you. you don't think to the college democrats should endorse the protests happening across the country. why well, i think the answer is simple. i look across country at the different protests going on and i reject the notion that we can't be pro protests without saying that occupying buildings, holding janitors hostage in closets and blocking jewish students from going to class is not okay i think that we need to come together to make sure that your students are feeling safe on our campus. so that's why i am firmly against it. >> the reason it's remarkable
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that the cva which is an official part of the democratic national committee, says that the president is wrong here and the job is to try to get democrats especially the president, reelected. why did you think it was important though, to sign on to this statement and offer this support to these protests. >> yes. i want to start off by saying, as you mentioned, cd cda has a commitment to getting biden reelected, but we also have a commitment to being a clear and strong voice for our peers. the students within the party december 13, we released a statement calling for the release of hostages. the facilitation of a lasting ceasefire, as well as denounced the rising anti-semitism and islamophobia. that's happening on campuses and cda has remained firm in our belief that all life is precious and that any violence that has, that has taken the lives of
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palestinian, israeli, or american lives is wrong. and we stand on that statement. >> are you reading from the paper? are you reading from a statement right now, if you all right, let's just turn that over and just talk to me i must be honest. >> i am very nervous. it's okay. it's okay. it's fine. you can just flip it over. i'm not asking any trick questions. i do just want an honest answer from your heart about what you feel about these protests. so let's just talk without but without the talking points. let me play this for you. this is president biden this week in reaction to a question about the protests forced you to reconsider the policies or to the region? >> no joshua, what's your reaction to that? >> that what's happening on these campuses is not changing his mind because firmly, i agree with the president. i
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think about whenever i think about that, i look at the harvard youth poll that recently came out about the top 16 issues that are facing young people. and they, israeli, palestinian conflict is number 15 on that list. >> why? because young people care about the economy for ability, being able to buy a home after they graduate college, they care about their abortion rights that have been taken away from them. plenty of different states they care about the environment, making sure that we have a clean work so that they can raise their children, grandchildren on a planet that's more clean than one. they, they grew up on so i think whenever you look at the issues, president biden and vice president harris, i've done a great job on those issues, which is why ultimately young voters are going to give them another four years and send them back to the white house. >> let me read two sentences from the college democrats of america statement supporting these protests the white house has taken the mistaken route of a bear hug strategy for netanyahu and a cold shoulder strategy for its own base. and all americans who want to see an end to this war. each day that democrats failed to stand united for a permanent
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ceasefire, two-state solution. >> and recognition of a palestinian state more and more youth find themselves disillusioned with the party data. >> what do you say to young people who say you are exactly right i agree with everything there. and that's why i'm not going to vote for him in november i want to take it back for a second to adjust your first point as to why i voted yes. >> for the statement to this day, i believe something like 20 students have been arrested nationally hi jobs had been ripped from the heads of muzzles students, graduations are being canceled, students aren't being allowed to walk the stage. they're being interrupted. there. there's so much happening with our country. >> and cda as we mentioned,
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with college students being in the name of our organization, our our students, our foundation, our peers, aren't being heard. >> they're not being respected. there their, their demands, they're not they're not being addressed in our statement, we stated in honore twitter, your on her social media, we stated that we stand with peaceful protests and i'm happy to have josh here. we were part of this ybor together. we ran on the same slate. we started our positions at the same time and we worked on numerous issues here but to the point to say, for the chastising of a portion of the democratic, i mean, of course, it's college students across the country can speak out and you can speak out in an organization but to chastise the president in that way for the people who agree with everything you've said, there what then does that mean? >> what incentive do you give them to vote for him? what if
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they say you're right cda. and i'm not going to vote for him. what do you tell to tell those students to encourage them to vote for him anyway? >> i don't believe in our statement, we're saying don't vote for joe biden. that's not our narrative is at all. we have a commitment to getting joe biden re-elected. however, we reserve the right to make room for our peers, to make room for ourselves as the organization has, as any organizations have before being college, number kinds of american meaning means we are the voice of college students. and right now, college students across the country want to be heard, right now, college students across the country are making some, some campuses even simple demands like just flying the palestinian flag, just respecting both, both groups of people, just loving one another and having piece that is all we're standing for, that, that is all we want. >> all right. the other burden, joshua martin. thank you both
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for the conversation four years ago this month, george floyd was murdered by a police officer who knelt on his neck and kept kneeling even after floyd said several times that he could not breathe next week, a family and ohio will bury a man who died after he told and officer who had a knee on his back for about 30 seconds that he could not breathe his name was frank tyson. he was 53 years old. he crashed his car into a pole and then went to a meeting hall nearby. it canton police officers found and
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>> good well, after the office is forced into the floor and handcuffed him, tyson said within a minute, including after the office knee was off his back. >> listen now to one officers response storage right there. >> i'll be glad again you're fine. yeah. >> five minutes after tyson stopped speaking, the office is noticed he was unresponsive and they started cpr canada police say two officers involved drawn administrative leave pending an investigation by the ohio attorney general's bureau of criminal investigation joining me now, is civil rights attorney benjamin crump. p is one of the lawyers representing the family. and frank tyson's fiance, sabrina jones sabrina, first my condolences two you
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and i thank you for being with me. when you watch that video, what do you see? what do you feel i was hurt devastated any agree? matt i couldn't believe what i was seeing it was wrong then i can get their video on my mind attorney crump another man dying under the knee of a police officer saying, i can't breathe, i can't breathe and then we heard the response from one of the officers. >> you're fine. shut the f up. what do you see when you watch that video whereas the family has said previously, ginger it's like george floor to 0.0 i can't believe we're reliving jaws for four years later in america, if ever, police officers should have learned from the teachable moment, from
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george floor that you should never put your knee on a person's neck especially when there are restrained and sand i can't breed. >> and then for him to respond, shut the f up. it is inferior aiding. we have to do better by black people who say, i can't breathe eric gardener george floyd and now frank tyson. how many more black people have to die before the police believe us when we say, i can't breed attorney crop on this longer video, when we see the katyn police walk into this and vet's center, this meeting hall, the first thing he says is called the sheriff sheriff call the sheriff. >> you all not going to kill me in here tonight. why does he say call the share that's very important that america understands brent tyson was wrongfully convicted for 24
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years. >> he actually had petitions. we have the federal court that had witnesses recant their statements. saying the prosecutors made us lie. he had video evidence where it contradicted what the police said who was the only person that identified him. all his life? he had been frightened. the canton per police department to say, i'm innocent. so when he got into this accident and say it called a sheriff, don't call it a camp police department because he was mortified by the camp police department. i will stay stole his liberty. he had only been out of prison big the black well, four, 13 days and then they stole his life and i don't know what's worse, the wrongful conviction or the wrong foot depth now, i have to say that cnn, as a news organization, we don't have any record of an exoneration, as you say, this was a petition
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that was in the process. >> sabrina, let me come to you. what do you want to happen now? >> this for frank, i want to see those police officers in jail. i don't leave because i don't want them to have another job let them be taken away, and their families just like the pick frankly, i know they won't be dead, but just has to be done attorney crop body cameras were supposed to prevent things like this from happening and the changes even after 2020, canton police, they change their use of force policy carotid control holds, chokeholds, or any other action that restricts blood or oxygen flow through the neck are prohibited unless deadly force is authorized, that was supposed to be a deterrent the accountability and charges against other offers, were
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supposed to be a deterrent. >> but still this happens. what is the effective deterrent or is this just going to keep happening as my co-counsel, attorney barbie, the cello say, when he ripped camp police department policies up at our press conference they're just pretty words on paper. >> they mean nothing. if we're not going to enforce them. and that's why we need the united states congress to finally pass the george floyd just as important piece frank tyson's blur is all of our hands. who failed to add after george floyd next month would be for year how long america, how long, how many more marginalized people have at the hands of police brutality before we have systematic police reform in the united states of america sabrina i don't want his story just to be his death.
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>> so just take a couple of seconds and tell us about the man frank tyson for you guys to the west london for me. he was happy he he he he wanted to live so the total four years than he was in prison, he was fight for his innocence so when he got out he let's try to finish that up he went plan on di is so he was trying to nail was future so he was very, very happy man and he had not here a lot of things going for him so he had a lot of fans to do, you know it wasn't printed on
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dying. so there's just too much for you to do i'm nervous assess. >> all right sabrina jones? aye. thank you. even in this time for taking a few minutes to help share this story and his story, attorney bank crump, always good to have you on as well. thank you so much to both thank you, vic, seen reached out to the cat and police and receive this statement from the police chief, john gobert. i want to extend my deepest sympathy to those close to mr. tyson based on it experience i'm confident that bci will conduct a very thorough review out of respect for the independence of that investigation, i am limited in my ability to comment further end of statement, we of course, will continue to follow this case there's a city and louisiana residents of a mostly white and wealthy area in east baton rouge parish. they want to fight to create their own city. now the mayor of baton
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incorporated now to be a wider, wealthier enclave, separating themselves from poor black communities, is that what this is about, or is it about something else? >> thank you for having me on victor this morning. we're having a little challenge with the technology this morning but i believe you were asking about the challenge. i will tell you that since i have been mayor for nearly eight years now, we have been dealing with this issue because i believe that communities rise and fall together. and certainly the lawsuit which was filed by myself and a councilman, certainly did not challenge the legitimacy of the 2019 election. but out of concern for a group of citizens saying
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that they wanted to start a city of now nearly 86,000 people without having a plan of action shin, as you know, we won on the district court, the appellate court, and the decision was turned around at the supreme court you were party to this lawsuit several years ago. you were removed since. >> but if you can still hear me can you hear me? amir, president i can't i can't. okay control room. >> can we fix the audio and come back to this because i'd like to have this conversation, but she's obviously having some difficulty hearing me, so we'll come back to this all right. so we'll come back. mere president standby and we'll fix the audio issue. let's go now to another conversation. the resource at millions of americans depend upon to get access to the internet was just cut off. why
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impermissibly dilute minority voting power. and as a direct adverse impact on minority representation, i wonder what were those stated motives what was behind this element for you well, of course originally the declared motivation was the desire to have their own school district when they first decided to have a vote and collect data, petition it included a great number of the constituents african-american constituents in that area that did not pass they couldn't pass the city width inclusivity. >> and so after that, they carved out a new city that had 70% wide and approximately 10% african american that did pass. however, it was almost a 50, 50
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vote. so we have half of the citizens of that area who do want the city and half who do not mere president, sharon western broom, the technical challenges took a big chunk of our conversation. i but i hope thank you for spending a few minutes with us to discuss this new city of st. george that's coming that is wider, wealthier, and creating a bit of an enclave in east baton rouge parish. thank you so much for your time. millions of americans will have to pay more for internet access. now that a government program they rely on has run out of funding, this is the affordable connectivity program. it's provided a subsidy of about $30 per month to low-income families, about $75 per month to households on tribal lands well, without that money, 60 million americans could lose access to the internet because they can't afford it. and we're not just
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talking about shopping online. this these are online classes people take telemetric a sudden they rely on the hardest hit will be communities of color according to the white house, a quarter of the households participating the acp were african american another quarter latino and nearly 330,000 households on tribal lands receive subsidies for high-speed internet as well. with me now, former president of the navajo nation, jonathan nez, he's also a candidate for congress there in arizona mr. former president. thank you for being with us. put this into perspective for us what do these tribal communities lose? once they lose the subsidies and potentially lose internet access thanks for having us on the show, viktor for the navajo nation in 2023, 40,000 navajo members were signed up for this program. >> in this program help connect
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they're the folks that are on the reservations with their family members off the reservation of course. including the connection. they would have to employment we're moving towards more online employment. of course, schools. >> and now what this program ending our fear is that people are not going to be able to get on the internet as they used to at their homes, they have to go down to get their free internet maybe at the school's government buildings or even the restaurants like maybe fast food areas. >> but it was also a critical component to economic development where small business entrepreneurs were able to sell their artisan artwork to those all over the
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telecommunications, and travel community as, and as you said, viktor, in communities of color, i think that could be a support, but of course, we haven't seen much come out of this congress. >> and because of the gridlock happening there and then as one of the reasons why i'm running for congress, one of the things that really, really need is an advocate they're in washington, dc that has seen this. we've gotten so many emails and telephone calls from our citizens saying that they've gotten a message from there cell phone provider saying that this will be going away and there's going to be an increase in their phone bill when many of our people have a set income in our communities former navajo nation president jonathan nez. i thank you for being with us this is not just about making sure that people can be connected to social media or watching videos online about health. it's about education, it's about the
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athens is a great example that every community in this state as a border community due to biden's broken border policies, laken riley was a nursing student killed in february in athens, georgia the killer is a venezuelan immigrant, released from immigration custody in 2022 after entering the country illegally. he was also arrested in new york city in 2023. and charged with acting in a manner to injure a child less than 17 and a motor vehicle license violation he was released before immigration authorities filed a detainer. science argues that his bill would prevent georgia from having another riley case argument that has been used by republican leaders nationwide to support their calls for tighter border security even though there is little evidence indicating a connection between immigration and crime in the country. >> so it kind of creates this lopsided, incomplete picture that perpetuate stereotypes about immigrants and latinos
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cao gomez laney, weber is director of public policy and advocacy of the galileo impact font, an organization that promotes political participation of the more than 400,000 latino voters in the state to elect candidates that reflect the interests of their communities 400,000 voting block that has the potential to swing elections. he offers, we net county as an example, where the sheriff's office participated in the federal program known as 2807 g, in which local authorities would report undocumented migrants in their custody that cooperation and that in 2020, after voters in wynette were more than 20% of the population is hispanic elected a new sheriff quran on the promise to end that agreement the new law is scheduled to go into effect in july. >> less it's put on hold by legal challenges. >> we stopped while they're cnn atlanta it is kentucky
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>> right now, you can get your first scrub set for just $19. >> they keep that legs is cnn news i learned so much preparing for this show. >> and every week i go down a rabbit hole about a specific thing. and for me, this is it this week. the rich black history of the kentucky derby today. larry merritt is adding his name to that history. it is the 150th running of the roses and he's the first black trainer to have a horse in the derby in more than three decades. i spoke with mr. demeria this week and he told me about the frugal purchase of his horse, west saratoga what i have to spend that day, i tried to get the best cost would sell that date for that kind of money. >> i'm october i got my boys. i see you know what i always bought a lot speed horses. it's got to be one how do
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retiring come back quickly i said, but this year is going to buy one haase. that around his other grounds. not knowing he was going to develop that good to be a kentucky derby contender. >> and how much you said with the money you have that day, how much did you have to spend that de you know what if someone else had bid on that, who wants to help to house and i were to lose it because, that was the budget for me was 12. >> so i was at 11 yeah. >> he bought west saratoga four $11,000. now, look at these numbers for comparison the priciest horse this year, sierra leone cost 2.3 million. >> i also asked him, does his horse actually have a chance to win today? man, they got to show me they could be them on saturday. >> i not chances. >> i think win the race. the race goes to plan on how we
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train this on us i'm looking to him many times the top of the stretch to take leave. you know, not taken out of the show me different, but i'm not get satisfied with just being a number in the race i'm preparing my host event no black trainer or jockey has won the derby since 19 o to black jockeys once dominated the sport. in fact, they were some of the first major sports celebrities in the catherine mooney has been telling some of their overlooked stories. she's a history professor at florida state and author of books including race horsemen, how slavery and freedom were made at the race track. professor, thank you so much for being with me 13 of the first of the 15 jockeys in the first kentucky derby were black. 15 of the first 28 winners what happened well, that's a big question and i think it's a two-part answer.
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the first part is the reason they were there in the first place is that many of the most successful and famous jockeys in 19th century america? even before the end of slavery were black men. >> and then in the 1870s and the 1880s after the war, since they already had a place in the sport they rose to the top of the sport a spree man and then what happens at the end of the 19th century is really related to the larger story about the coming of segregation and jim crow and they remain in the sport. >> i think that's very important to emphasize, but they are locked out of the top opportunities like having a mount in the kentucky derby you also wrote latest book is about isaac murphy, born in but became an international star di did 35 give us a little of his story because i think the individual characters are rich here too.
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>> so murphy is born enslaved. his father died in the service of the union army, fighting for freedom. his mother is an extraordinary person. she seems to have immediately embraced the possibility of reconstruction. she got her son into school and she looked at that history of the race track for black man, and she thought that was the place where he could really have a future and he turned out to be a prodigy and he won three kentucky derby is himself. he was the jockey of still the only derby winner to have been trained by a black man. that's king minute 18, 91 and he really i think became a symbol of what black achievement might look like in a world that was truly a biracial democracy. and ultimately that's part of his downfall. >> there is also a parallel story here about how hispanics now dominate this sport. i read a part of a research paper that
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said if horses could speak, they'd speak spanish because of the huge population of hispanic riders and grooms and assistant trainers is it? parallel with why we're seeing hispanics work in agriculture and construction in many states. the same reason their dominating this sport i think that's to some degree true because you can get a job, but i think it's also true that at least early on in the revolution of latino jockeys, it was, and also other horsemen it was because a lot of immigrants came from places where they were more like likely to have some agricultural background. and so they had they were more sort of experience working with horses. >> and i think now we're sort of multi-generational into it. so it's both immigrants and second and third and fourth generation horseman. >> professor katherine mooney. thank you so much. for strands of history with us i'm very
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