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the, the business day that we knew is lying from berlin. the us secretary of state raises concerns with china as president over its support for russia's war in ukraine. intox with changing, paying, and to be blanket criticizes china saying it's helping russia make weapons. but despite the disagreements, the to find room for cooperation in other areas. also coming up nato's consulting work pays a visit to berlin, meeting with german chancellor shots to discuss an upcoming defense summit in washington and berlin police clear groups of pro palestinian demonstrators outside the german parliament building. the protesters were demanding that the government
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stop arms exports to israel, plus brazil's indigenous peoples rally in the capital, brazil. yeah, they say new legislation threatens their way of life and their ancestral land, the conflict to all our viewers. joining us on p b. s. and the united states and everyone joining us from around the globe. welcome to the show you a secretary of state to antony blake and has met with china's president on the 3rd and final day of a visit. fraught with tensions. the 2 nations disagree on a range of issues from ukraine to china's territorial claims wouldn't blink and stressed that it was crucial for washington and beijing to maintain open channels of communication to rival powers, try to find common ground. china as president shooting,
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being welcomed us secretary of state antony blinking in beijing. despite core differences on trade, security and geo politics, she expressed hope for the future. china is willing to see a confident and open us with prosperity and development. it is hoped that the us can also look at china's development positively. only when this fundamental issue is resolved and the 1st step is taken with china us relations be truly stabilized, improved and moved forward. during is 3 day visit blinking raise concerns about china's territorial claims in taiwan and the sell china sea. he also accused of the people's republic of china, or p, r c of fueling the war and ukraine by supporting russia's weapons,
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industry. and my discussions today, i reiterated, are serious concern about the p r. c. providing components that are powering rushes through war of aggression against ukraine. russia would struggle to sustain its assault on ukraine without trying to support of china is foreign minister has accused the us of trying to stifle its economic and technological development as well as its regional expansion. the china us relationship is facing more negative factors and all kinds of disruptions. china is legitimate to develop and tribes have been unreasonably suppressed and all co interests are facing challenges show to china and the u. s. stay on the right. the costs of moving forward with stability or a ton to a downward spiral. so this is a major question facing all 2 countries and tests of sincerity and ability.
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the path forward includes holding formal talks about the risks of artificial intelligence in the coming weeks joined by lily mccully. she is the deputy director and fellow in the framing chair in china studies at the center for strategic and international studies. welcome to the w. now blinking did not come away from china with any concessions or agreements. so what was the point of this trip needs to go from any on. i think the point of this trip was certainly not to move the needle on substantive issues. i don't think that was the expectation really on either side coming into the meeting, but we've seen over the past year, a desire from both the, by the ministration and beijing to have a temporary, at least temporary stabilization of the relationship. there are some really and there are some really big geo political issues. israel guys that ukraine,
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that both countries are dealing with the chinese economy slowing down the bottom administration and spacing and election. i think both want to continue the temporary stabilization that we have seen. so my assessment is that this visit, like the visits we've seen from, from y'all and the phone call between she and biden is an investment in that stabilisation, at least temporarily. one of the most contentious issues between china and the us is always trained china accuse washington of suppressing what they called their legitimate development rates. the us complains about china and flooding the world with cheap products. is there any way to find common ground here? well, that's a very good question. i think you have to look at the context of this visit and you know, the us has just passed the, the tick tock divestment bill has to buy and ministration has been very rigorous and consistent in its development of technology controls. where it sees chinese practice is harming us. security and china for its matter is facing an economic
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slowdown and plants to export his way out of this. out of this slow down, these are going to create further frictions. so this contemporary stabilization, these open lines of communication are really important because we're going to see added and continued challenge as on the trade front going forward. in the past, there was a lot of talk about guard rails, and none of that anymore. what happened? you know, i think it's pretty clear from both sides that there are major, major structural issues. so really what both sides are doing now is trying to find monica or this little areas of cooperation. and i is one of them. we're going to have talk soon. designers, she call, i mentioned these open lines of communication, military to military communication. the fentenol isn't everywhere. see motor progress, but it's really about it's about communication,
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where we have the structural challenges and talking about them and, and finding the small areas for, for the us and trying to work together. but i think there's a recognition on both sides, but the structural frictions aren't gonna change any time soon. that was literally mccall way of the center for strategic and international studies. thanks for your input. you. the u. s. has announced it's providing ukraine with another $6000000000.00 in a just days after the senate agreed on a $61000000000.00 package defense secretary lloyd austin said along with missiles for patriot air defense systems. ukraine will also receive artillery. ammunition troops will be equipped with gear, allowing them to integrate western weaponry into soviet era systems. here in berlin, german chancellor or f shots as hosted nato secretary general again stoughton burge, for it talks. the meeting was in preparation for the alliance of the annual summit, which will be held in washington in july. the pair discussed the war in ukraine and
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how to boost defend spending to counter threats from precisely russia and china, thornburg fries, germany for its commitment to supporting ukraine. the pear also urged allies to do more to help. he's really, camille grant is an expert in defense and security policy at the european council on foreign relations. and i asked him, why is european allies are hesitant to develop germany's example and do more to help ukraine? i just now to, to reason so that so some of them think you don't have the capacity because they did the say to ever the brokers still finds and so therefore they are struggling. then there is a small group which is more reluctant on the assistance ukraine, and the email stating from the one that it wouldn't deliver weapons to be hunger. so i, the democratization is that we have more and more countries um, at the game, desktops, all producing for your brain. but it is the,
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the who is that the song that young. mm hm. what would you say are the lessons here of has learned since the war broke out in the ukraine? either you know, hard lesson for many europeans. first of all, it was a, the transformation of the relationship to russia and sure collapse from the a partnership relationship to something quite different. uh, and the tier of a conflict with russia now, speaking with most european nice. the 2nd thing is that we were very prepared for that type of dogs attrition for. we didn't have to brokers stokes, we didn't have the production capacity. do we share, let europeans to really have a sort of a very serious week of board on their b. c. p ever copper ministry follow the steps that are going supporting your printing to know, wrote on there. yeah. and well, there has been a reckoning as well internally in many countries,
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right. many countries investing more in their military and their defense capabilities, but there are still many countries that rely on different weapon systems. even in the european union, you know, systems that require different ammunition. that means they can't be deployed together effectively. why do you think the issue is not able to develop a coordinated defense policy as well as the terms, but he sees the responsibility of nature and in the framework we do out of a proper norms and standards that guides interpret jim statewide eyes. but we haven't worked hard enough to ensure that this would work in a trustable m. yep. chewed segue from interpreted teacher interchangeably to, to your weapon systems to guarantee that that ice are capable of working together. and every single weapon system is a valuable paul or alex. and the 2nd thing is, uh, within you. uh there's,
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there's been remarkable progress since the since of february 22. we cindy, your training and your training soldiers are using your just as an energy to probably ukrainians and also bringing together many of the new tunes into you 2 bucks to support your train. but we're not quite there yet. uh, as the importance of seem your games put their act together on the fence and probably be best much more in defense, not only nationally bit oversized in europe in those camille, crowded with the european council on foreign relations and a quick look now and some other stories making headlines around the world today. officials in the ukrainian capital t save. they've evacuated patients from 2 of the cities, hospitals over fears. they could be targeted by russian strikes. the decision came after the head of the bill of losing and security service at the hospitals were housing soldiers, heave city administration has called those claims quote, an absolute lie and prob occasion in britain,
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this king charles is to return to public duties for the 1st time since being diagnosed with cancer back in february, a statement from buckingham palace said the king was responding well to treatment and the doctors were positive about his continued recovery. falls of closed in the 2nd stage of india's multi phase national election. millions of voters cast ballots across 13 states and union territories, incumbent prime minister and the rental modi is seeking a rare 3rd term has him do nationalist b, j. p is also aiming for a super majority that could, to empower his coalition to potentially change the constitution. and what's one of herds of endangered headphones have become stuck in the month of dried up pods? conservation authorities say they are in danger of dying. southern africa has been affected by severe drought caused by the media whether phenomenon. several countries in the region have recently declared
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a state of national disaster police here in berlin have cleared a pro palestinian protest campsite outside the german parliament. the group created the encampment more than 2 weeks ago, saying they wanted the german government to stop sending weapons and military support to israel. police say they act as to close the camp after some protesters repeatedly used band symbols and slogans. our porter spoke to protesters and police . we've been here. what does this now uh, exist at 1617 days just over 2 weeks and we've been peaceful and we've been harassed by the police every single day. they have given us, like the stupidest restrictions they have forbidden us from using language, is that on german and english, they have a criminal lives now save permanent lives, our prayers, our songs are workshops and now they are there a vision reasoning for a big thing? this time that we had a sofa and that we are hurting the ground,
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this protest campus trouble, protest, compass being prohibited because there have been a piece of violations of the rules for public assembly and criminal offenses committed. thomas about the protest leaders did not intervene to prevent this from happening disease for him not to that. so the protest has been deemed a threat to public safety. kind of made a mistake if there are no miles or measures to prevent more crime. so i can cite meant to hatreds for him not to w as political correspondence. simon young has more on how the authorities in germany are dealing with pro palestinian protest. yeah, well i, i see so in this particular case, the police said that had been criminality and violence around this camp. i think probably they were also a bit concerned because it was low teaching rights in the heart of the a government district here in berlin. but more generally, i think it's fair to say that police have often felt they needed to police these
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kind of pro palestinian demonstrations that we've seen over the last few months pretty closely in some cases breaking them up at there. is this a allegation of incitement that coming from these protests in some cases. and they use all in particular of band slogans and band uh, images and so on is a, is a problem. it can be difficult for the police to decide exactly when the law has been broken. for instance, with the slogans to the accounted in a, in arabic or in other languages. you know, that may be difficult for the police or in some cases, phrases when maps of the region of the middle east region that held up in the palestinian colors. that may be problems. sometimes they've taken a sort of precaution, we approach pulling people out or even in the closing the demonstrations down and leaving it. of course in the end is the quotes that to decide when the lower has
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actually been broken me. we have seen pro palestinian protest spreading on university campuses in the us lately. how strong, how big is the movement in germany as well? i think it's fair to say that there has been many pro palestinian demonstrations both before the 7th of october. how mass attacks against israel, and even in a more concentrated form sense, and some of them have attracted thousands, in some cases, even tens of thousands of participants. not seeing every case have they complied with the police, a requirements that such a large demonstrations should be registered in advance. and as i say, that's been the concerns about the races of the lot about anti semitism. and so, you know, there is a polarized atmosphere. i,
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i think around many of these demonstrations, but the police of course, and the all sorts is generally always say as well, but they all concerned about that freedom of speech just as much as freedom to demonstrate freedom of expression is as important. also as making sure that nobody breaks the little dw political correspondence, simon young. thank you. simon. student protests over the israel. how must war have continued to spread across us college campuses after the arrest of some $100.00 demonstrators at columbia university. last week, demonstrators mostly want universities to cut ties with companies that are helping israel's military efforts and gaza. but not all the protests at columbia has been pro palestinian as our correspondence found out. yet another really in front of new york's columbia university. but today people are calling for the release of those, abducted by him us and protesting against anti semitism home are
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a little bit to read, not is one of the organizers. he says the pro palestinian protest, funds and off campus have left him and other members of the jewish community, feeling threatening suicide. also some bed views and incidents inside the templates . but what happened outside it's bad man, like i live close by the use drums to am glorifying and default uh, glorifying terrorist. you know, saying that from the river to to see all this time will be our up to prevent outside us from hijacking the protest. university is now checking id that it's gates. the incumbent is for campus members. only. jewish students and faculty members have also joined in there were chance in hebrew and, and get ish. everyone around was very respectful, also joined in and it felt totally safe and secure. and actually what a university should be about what's happening outside of campus and what's
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happening inside campus, a totally different things. the people who make them uncomfortable uh, the people outside on broadway, some of whom are quite extreme here on campus. we have seen that there is a wide range of different voices and views both and one of the protesters as well as among your staff members and your students. the university administration is now facing the challenge of protecting freedom of speech on campus while also protecting students who have felt uncomfortable or even threatened. and taking a clear stance against anti semitism and other inflammatory behavior. it's a standstill mare, and many other students have yet to see. not expecting columbia university to solve on the beautiful dress as a fully popular library at 100 year old conflict. expect them to give us safe environment. give people the ability to study safe and quietly for their finals to end a year to graduate work here, whatever. while he's hes facilities on campus have decreased compared to the 1st
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days of the protests. he hopes his university will live up to the responsibility it has towards all of its students. thousands of indigenous people have converge on results, capital brazilian, to protest the government's failure to protect their ancestral lands. the annual event attracts groups from across the country focusing on the various issues and threats they face this year. one major issue is a controversial new piece of government legislation, which they say threatens their way of life, their ancestor lands and their very existence. this is an unusual plan, spends brazilian indigenous group to be performing the ritual, but then one of around 200 crews and 8000 people who travel from remote locations often today in boston sometimes. but they've come to the cafeteria for the, for an event that they heard the only one like the challenges they face as
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indigenous people would also address the cooling, the biggest step back to the right decade and, you know, at the time mancha, knew you guys whom i pulled up on my mouth will chicago style, but also the time locker law is in a 10 by the brazilian state. it's leaders and full additions to try to continue. and i, late thing, indigenous peoples. yeah, that's completely up. that's the right to be indigenous. and to be indigenous in your own 3rd treat, you have to recognize that these cert please belong to indigenous peoples. these territories connect our lives, former our beings as indigenous peoples before the, our existence of these things. yeah. so the indigenous peoples here at the camp and be seen here and across the country. and you know, represent, was a shed moment. we can say claims to the, assess the land. think these can only be recognized if they prove that occupied the territory in 1988. it also pay the way for mining
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road building and other construction projects. active a say, this would be a disaster for the environment which indigenous peoples protect a change in las glen at the time when people are planted is dying. it's a noise. and this planet does not only belong to indigenous peoples. that if we don't look after it, if we don't use things that nature offers, we are going to die. we are talking about climate change. we are talking about green forest, which needs to be looked off to, to stick with that. being digit is people's bench that range at a demonstration for the government district. the process is taking place within sight of congress. the body that approve the lo, they say now threatens the survival still dominated by wealthy landowners and the rights we allies, agribusiness. congress signed off on the major,
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despite opposition from lecturing, president's new leg desilva supports his aunt, even though is needed to establish legal certainty and protect commercial interest . but the indigenous people say without the alarm, the way of life and culture died. without those, the forest will die, which will likely have an impact on climate change that could have consequences to everyone. and we can now bring in paula vargas, she's the program director of amazon wash has brazil program and attended the annual meeting of brazil's indigenous peoples in the capital. presently, a problem good to have you on the show. there is lots of concern about what this law would mean for brazil's indigenous communities. why that the brazilian congress go ahead and approve it a hi, it's a pleasure to be here and thank you for the space that was, you know, cool. this now was dominated by the agribusiness, they call post the trophies dash,
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instead of being there to defend the people in the country and the constitutional rights of their base people. they are, they are trying to defend the interest of a small groups of farmers, politicians themselves so usually. and so they are not really concerned about the future of the planet or with human rights and the president himself a little bit so, but he opposes the law. why couldn't he stop it? the fact is that now little has gets into follow up promising to respect these, those rights and to protect the environment. and he promised to them a kate 14 indigenous lens. their medication is entitling them to the business people. what happened is that he's government is supposed to be asian goldman. so even if he promised right now, there are major setbacks. and some of the 14th land that he promised to title to english people. so far we have only 8. so they set big such as faction and pressure
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by doing these. and as we mentioned a life to make to let, to fulfill his promise. yeah, this law has been enforced since december already. how realistic is it to overturn it now, to overturn these really hard in the moment that they are even blinking and all the bards to the table. now they're calling for the goldman as of the states to stops and negotiating it. so what we're trying to do is take really to try to have this supreme court ruling the question to so now it should because it's already done. they said it wasn't cause additional. but right now the really a big tables negotiation saying that yes, but we have to have the farmers have the raiders, right. we're talking about invasion of last. they are no others. and also government governor's. they are interested in that way to try to say and have a say on this space. so we're not even thinking that we can over time. we want to
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do a closer to show knowledge of the lot to be applied, because it was already ruled by the supreme court. that is, was constitutional. what does your organization do to support the fights against the law or the watches, the environmental in human rights nonprofit, their work for 25 years to protect their amazon. we have a theme of advisors here. they're working to like with legal actions when companies, but also supporting visuals movements with technical advisement with funds. because right now when you say, you know that they are like 9000 indigenous peoples from all over the country. we united in procedure and for the acts they need support. they need people that can not only bring all the people here to help them to get into these advocacy level and to negotiate. sometimes with none of it, will she like to try to take companies out of there in spaces. and this is a bed big battlefield right now, right? so what we're going to watch to get with all the lights on here,
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trying to support indigenous peoples and also traditional communities of have they arrives respected and you can help all of you. there was not only to understand and human rights need to be respected, but the environment has to be protected for all of us. yeah. can support to work and then supports of interest to those people from those use to protect the planets because what is now in danger? we'll have to leave it there. paula: thank you so much. we're running out of time. thank you so much. stay with us now the,
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