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the spots, the cities check and so great cultural memorials to boot travel . we got the this is dw news advocate coming up on the program. could some of the world's most popular smartphones have been made using blog minerals, the president of the democratic republic of congo, believe so. you can use as the tech giant apple of building its flagship products using illegally acquired minerals in a trade which he alleges one jeff, is facilitating. why would you want to negotiate with a come and see who's doing business on the fax? it's dead? come delete on your telephones, you have in your countries contained the blood of the concrete. just get a phone that was of a, you know, the contents of a saw president has
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a katie speaks on this exclusively to beat up. the news also coming up of the actual reconstruction to illustrate the nama settlement targeted by german colonial troops. and once now the maybe of the victim defendants. once a one crunch, maslick of especially recognized as a genocide. the hello i'm told the online people welcome to the program or the president of the democratic republic of congo. as the last out, apple, the tech dimes, for using so cold blooded minerals from his country for the manufacturing of apple products present. felix, she's the katie, also to neighboring lawanda of facilitating the illegal export of these minerals. will take a listen to his exclusive interview with the w. after this report. the d. c went
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on says from apple, overweight sources, the mineral components for its devices. in the letter to apple, lawyers query the use of 10 to them, 10 and task. the so called 3 teen minerals. they allowed g found an eastern p c, a volatile region with rebel groups profiting off autism l mining. the dfcs claim is the minerals of smuggled from its territory to render, with a loan, to insult upland of the bias from around the world. apple has 3 weeks to respond, and the d. c. government is report to p, looking into all the 2 options for its pod. apple denies the accusations, the company said it has found no reasonable basis to conclude that any of the 3 team, minerals, and its supply chain financed a benefit to all groups in the region. minerals from the d. c,
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a critical to producing the world smartphones and many of the electronic devices. in fact, it is the main source for natural resources needed for global technological advancement . the dfcs minerals which great lakes region has been played by violence since the 1990s. tensions reemerged in late 2020. when, when the rebels reap known as m. 23 began recapturing sways of the territory. so do you see the un and western countries accuse window supporting rebel groups including m 23 in a bid to control the regions, mosque, mineral resources? lender denies these allegations. are presidents all the d r. c. felix? she's the katie, wasn't berlin and spoke exclusively to date of these teen garrett hauser and wendy bashing about why his country is threatening legal action against apple. because this is designed to them quite simply,
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so it may stop. it's been going on for 30 years. ever since the international community, aust, us to open up voters to the influx of refugees fleeing the genocide in rwanda vision. oh see, the will wonder if i'm on the at that point people involved in the genocide also slipped to see on that and on a fusion. and they entered the d l. c with the website as well, because the order being given from somewhere still within the international community and to let them in with that weapons. the note that the us under the list down 3 at icloud is a place to the dog to that orlando is given a rights and pursuit inviting itself into the democratic republic of congo. to hung down these people up the books f a c. c agency, their mother was a mom and unfortunately for when to didn't make the distinction, i will see my so also massive good congolese we though. and since then, domestic
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a hasn't ended meaning to the one that they have a going to be number one to discover that they were minerals in the deals. and we did contact and rolanda made contacts in the international community that enabled it to sell these block minerals for the the sure. now i found the found this, i mean i, you saw the mean i of minerals obtained by using finance against our populations to force them to leave the localities with these minerals and found it look at the dollar could not get on to see me. and i am definitely low by since then for linda has become the representative of these minerals for the international community for these multi nationals. luckily not that don't us on the
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for say minutes. the national not what do i need to do? yeah, you just mentioned the 1990 is going for london. refugees came cause a book. he was a was all the only now it's 30 years later and how that plays off do you? this is why i said it's been going on searching is also due today and he's done. congo was seeing the presence of u. m. 23 measurement, which according to multiple statements by your government, is supported by rolanda. do you plan to meet around as president polk? i'm in the days to come? we are good minus yet dave, get the there's currently an initiative be taken by gold and president bush while the rent. so yeah. who's being appointed mediator in this conflict by the african union? yep. see these, uh presumably the, and he's already put fluid piece initiatives on several occasions here about the but they've all being sabotaged. and for thing was sabotaged by car gama and his regime to bounce off the the, the know some of the, i'm on down the have you,
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we really, it's a final crossroads don't that the, there was now what we believe to be a last chance. and i want to give peace a chance as much as possible. i'm doing the shots that update the page for you. but obviously that's not because of weakness. and we're not always going to be patient like this. wishing pos, once i also wait on that, be the 25th of us because of that too. does that mean that you're still prepared as agreed to meet paulk again? is it to show the cause on the home phone? it is. i mean, i've always said that i never meet the m $23.00 a month. i'm sure that because as i said, it's an empty sho. and it shows effect this fabricate to, to justify the aggression against my country. on top of the d. c was just the amount is just the feel august i see on the content won't be that i am busy make on the day the real address. the real criminal is pull coming up
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and i want to meet him not to beg him or to negotiate. and a thing with him for the long, it's to ask him and tell him clearly i to why that he's a criminal. that enough is enough now and that he has little game is known to everyone either to me, it's enough what he's done to my country and my people. and it's time for him to leave the territory, the soil of my country, the 30 to i'm to some of them will be it comes, you mentioned the multinational companies. absolutely. but maybe others to what do you expect from them just give was that on the opposite? that may be, i'm is surely others. i'll make the show you that you'll find out the investigations continue to say, mean of a is the most serious thing, is that these minerals are extracted from the congolese subsoil at the price of blood on the, as i said by using violence and terror for you to make the populations living in
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these localities, fleet l street, the song possible at the bottom, then that transported a long trail was fine motorcycles to relent. but one the a lot. and the, the stumped by an international n g a, we quote all that which obviously itself, segments the fact that the blood minerals pauses them off as if they were minerals mind in valenda, passing on. they passive on to sit. they mean, i explained one i said, putting out a need, mr. president, jeff just expressed an expectation to the countries that host multi nationals including the united states. i guess in the case of apple. so what exactly are you waiting for? what kind of sanctions, what kind of influence with the american government past, due for the med political, velma, america, and zip. i don't think i can get something. i don't know, in this case what sanctions could be applied. sounds of it's up to the to just
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reach and think about it. there was surely penalties and convictions for complicity in crimes. it seemed last. so i'm not expecting a specific sanction. so search from then just it goes as long as i knows that these are countries that with the judiciary is free, independent, efficient on it, does it what this kind of just is to touch this type of traffic and the traffic is too good is on the level the companies will start to use are ready to only discuss upon the ship to exploit these minerals and when, when model the after now. yeah. oh, expedite this is assuming that a lot more than we've gotten, you know, got, you know, have a mazda, is because of all these misfortunes that this wealth has cost us. that i have to capitalize on that by saying we must don't being aligned to extraction. the quite simply data in their big stocks you onto some bremo on the pano mean they take home
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interests that processed elsewhere. and then they come and sell us the finished product loan, develop a new man. we want to develop our own value chain in the draw our sales really low as far as possible as it can extend l street. so not the path to now. yeah. and then in what i quote those when, when partnerships us goes out. so i think we'll be able to find how much it was ridiculous by creating jobs, south bronx, and tracing wealth a on them. and at the same time have partners will also benefit from this publish it. so it will then i'll set up an audio by example. so apple will negotiate directly with the d. c. that's going to be the democratic people, of course, with the democratic republic of congo. why would you want to negotiate with a common c for who's doing business on the backs of debt? congolese is on your telephone to have in your countries contain the blood of the
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congolese because they found the cause of ac novel be content. another song, big one more day, strong, was that from felix to security president of the democratic republic of congo in to watch the full interview on youtube channel. we've off the london government to respond to the allegations and we hope we can have them on the program soon. the watching the domain is africa still to come. after years of campaigning and negotiations gone of stolen, royal relics returned home to the ashanti came to namibia. now, where have ro and nama communities have been commemorating 120 years since the genocide of that full fathers, by colonial forces, beheld
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a memorial procession in the town of literature. in what's now an annual ceremony. in 2021. germany is government. apologize for the killings. we've made up the 1st genocide of the 20th century as the german soldiers wiped out tens of thousands of harrow and now my people. but these brutal events will not the 1st of their kind by the gym, and sweep not over a decade earlier, on april 12th 18. 93 colonial troops attacked a nama settlement, and killed dozens of residents to date nama descendants, want the hon. cronsa massa, as it's known, recognized as the 1st genocide against the full fathers. now a new documentary, it shines more light on the event. it uses open source material descendants accounts and 3 d visualization to investigate what happened on that crucial day in 1893. the morning of the attack,
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the chief inspector, all his men. so it is to leave the village wolf to expectation that the gibbons sold. his war follows hendrix went with front of us, the germans attacked them from that side. so he to case, so just the men and they victory here thinking that the germans now were, follow the men. he always felt that the men will fight only men and they left the women and the children at the settlement. but why did the germans did? they thought the poor ladies and the children the whole bed, the less on the other side, the distribution of spent cartridges found during the field work indicates when most of the exchange of fire took place. supporting the oral accounts,
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the germans attacked the village directly to you from the east, killing thousands. the reported number of victims of this on so what? 88, almost 078 of them. women and children. additionally, around a 100 women and children were taken as captives speaking now to see my little pat from the now my traditional leadership association, she joins us from our info and maybe a welcome to the the, the news africa. zoom out. now, why is this incidents the mastic of 1893, not well known today? uh yes, um, unfortunately we seem to think about general site is something that happens in the
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home. and jim, upside is, a pro says we do small 10 event and uh, you know, the entire, uh, a colonial project was a project off till till at disposition of the people statement. and it's fact, it was a trustful, april 1893 when germany used. it's a lucky paula and also a diplomacy to site protection treaties when the number of people say that they are not going to find any protection p t. germany decided that they are going to use a full but this post, what's not only, you know, a military war, but it was still to evaluation. and of course on time. so i said the mission of, of the, the, the objective of this mission is to complete the ex,
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terminate at the, the, the point now my people. and so, yeah, this is how the entire genocidal campaign stopped it. a year later, i'm the numbers from a co when people of cobra was what's executed by fighting squad full. so refusing to assign a protection p t and $92.00. 04 was really just a combination of a offer these systems by the, the, the nom, up people. and so my head over p both right? a game of colonial occupation. so this is why the state is so important, but unfortunately we see a general side as an event and not as a process. and this is what we need to understand what's going in future. the general site that's not happening with an event. it happens over time. and so what qualifies this?
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as a genocide you're saying is the extermination of the people, which is the intent, the intent of extermination. you said she and misty, who? you said the purpose is to exterminate. now exterminate means you are going on a genocidal purpose. right? so that's what qualifies it for you did not only say you also carried out that the intent is so you know, i'm pushing to have this official recognition of the home crunch maslick as a genocide. what impact would that have both for the nama community, uh, domestically and internationally. um, the impacted that is what task is to question the whole of the whole course will be a project. the entire portfolio project was
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a project of a d, humanizing people that are not white to um that, that, that's what the project was about. and the entire relationship between the global law and the global south is based on the colonial ideas of people. and they are the so you know, some people being leslie human beings, but only barely sauces are good enough in order to, to both the live out of the global know. and now the people of the global cells, a saving. we will not tolerate this anymore. you will have books, you'll well on our subsidy on our desk, on our right, on how would this position and this needs to change. and so the entire los lobos,
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so um relationship needs to change and you'll need to repay and the way that we see the world and the economy and global politics needs to change because it continue to operate on the principles of colonialism. we are living in a new o'neill system in contemporary politics and, and yeah, but this is this, this is the challenge here and what needs to be up present. so it's, it's called for the operations. is actually a universal called for the nations from the entire unit to make. i think what they have done during the colonial test as they're taking this message forward, what kind of response have you been getting both locally from your people from your government, but also here in germany as well. um,
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the response that we've been getting is a peaceful, the self denial in after independence in 1919 you know, the political struggles to come to terms with german club only. and that's a really stop to, to take root because during the colonial period, you know, before independence, it was how that you can colonialism before that. it was german colonialism and, and that period did not allow for the voices of the people to be heard. it was only after 1919, and so in the 2006 of the nama is the overhead of, of people join forces to put a, a motion in the numbers, the parliament through the paramount chief, um the local right. and the, this motion puts in place, you know, mechanisms that we could use to be mind, but i'm fortunate to be the government did not listen to to us. because we said we
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want a try, let's ro, negotiations and the tool governments that said that they are going to talk by naturally from state to state or, and this at some, somebody, elation of our right to sleep um, participation and also to be paid in full consent so yeah, this is where we are, we have, we have put in motion a litigation process against our own government because we believe that almost everyone is also buying a thing or what, right? we have to listen to the, to the un, special to protest will have confirmed that i what i thought you did being violated . and we will continue to look for everything is to continue taking germany also to court. we are not ruling out going to the international court of justice because this is a match off of justice. it is not a matter of development a, it's,
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we're not, we're not asking for the delinquent age. we ask people justice. okay, the same as well. that's all we have time for, but we'll have to leave it there for now. so i'm a little bit from the nontraditional leadership association. thank you very much for speaking to us. thank you, sir. and gone, a precious artifacts muted by the british during that colonial rule had been restored to the owners, the shanty people, but only temporarily because the items have been given back on loan. the event marking very tend to place at dementia palace museum incapacity the scenes of the sun to hint at kingdom, the thousands of artifacts and now on public display at home, giving a rag glimpse into the history and culture. b, a shanty. yeah. terms include the $32.00 gold and silver treasurers all stolen
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during the 19th century. anglo ashanti was, comes of pressure is growing on western museums and institutions to restore african artifacts stolen during the colonial era. king or to for a say to, to the 2nd expressed as the live with the, to the items that came back originally the soul of the people of us on the display of this for you to see the, the item that was totally new to drop in 1974, not all of them understand that what we have here still them, what is the soul before shunting? yeah, and i believe we. ready the fear that they have been displayed yet you make that up for everybody to come in and listen to see it yourselves. now the return is the result of a long campaign by the man government and took many years of negotiation with british institution. so no wonder at spot excitement at home in gonna i, i'm really excited that i'm excited because my grandfather and then and his
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rains that he was able to see and then bring the boxes to donna, the spirits on file for this. i personally believe you have to go to the hot wanted to see the d when these items could be brought back. so that's it from us for today. but be sure to check out all the other stories onto government to come forward, slash africa on our social media, and we'll leave you with some more pictures of the world outlook at dementia palace essentials on this town. also, we will see you next time, bye for now the
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