series of scandals of cringe and stupidity, how to finalize it all, well, let's just put an end to this topic, which will continue, danyla, here is your opinion, ms. larisa, your opinion, everything is simple in turn, how to stop it all, because realistically, well, there will be no exhaust in the large mobilization resource, now after that there will definitely not be anything, look, it ’s a difficult thing for me, well, let’s go, i ’ll say it later, okay, well, ladies, i’m a good question, how to do it, how to stop it russian parasitism on this topic, in my opinion, it is necessary to remember here what we are doing and why, because the law on mobilization, it had a purpose, why did we make changes to this law, it needed the old law, it needed changes, because its implementation, its implementation was quite difficult and dangerous, humiliating for the citizen, how do you mobilize and.. .

as a result, you do not have a term of demobilization, you are there, you are mobilized, and if you did not serve, then no matter what your public profession is, you will still go there as a soldier, that is, although you could be a logistician somewhere or they needed something else, i.e. these solutions elimination, and therefore this law was adopted. the second point is that this law, it contains sanctions for its non-fulfillment, and thus it distinguishes. from the old law, which was very strict, humiliating for the citizen, because the citizen had no rights at all when he entered the army, and no guarantees, but at the same time he, his failure to comply with this law was not punished in any way, this is a very strange story, so now we have to remember that all these consular things, all, we have all these changes, they have to be aimed at making it easier for a citizen of the fulfillment of the law and the constitutional duty, and not...

to tell, but how to avoid it, but how to do this in such a way as to pretend that we do not have a constitution, and we do not have a duty and martial law we don't have it, we have to complete the task, we have to change the people who are in the trenches, we have to ensure an endless rotation, that is, this flow, because this war can be long, it can be 10, it can be more years, and we need to understand how to make those who mobilize have a better chance of survival and knew when they would return home. yes, i agree with all of this, danyla, but to put a full stop in an endless series, it is in all these correct things that mrs. larisa said, this scandal definitely worked exactly the opposite. on the one hand, yes. that is , i really do not see in what way what is now, uh, here, this new, innovation there, even if it is temporary on the part of the ministry of foreign affairs, in what way. it can

contribute to the fact that our mobilization resource will somehow expand, and rather , the number of people with ukrainian passports, but understand, in fact , here it is possible to take this discussion to such a philosophical and political level, because when we talk about the ukrainian nation as a whole, the ukrainian nation is an imaginary community, so everyone has some our idea as a group. idea of ​​what it means to be ukrainian, what it means to belong to this community, and i'll tell you honestly, i'm not in order to somehow incite conflict and division here, but i don't quite understand what unites me in one community with these men and women go to the consulate there near the dp document or in the consulates and shout about what and what i have to serve and what my husband has to serve, like go serve yourself, yeah yeah.

that is, this discussion is really important to us today about what it means to be ukrainian, what it means to belong to the ukrainian nation, or to stay abroad and really pretend that it does not concern you in any way and that you only have the right to demand that , is this not a disqualifying sign for being called a ukrainian, yes, no according to the passport, and according to the beliefs, so... so again, i would very much not like this discussion to turn, you know, into that, into such, excuse me, srach, into which it turns between us with mutual accusations those who are abroad and from those who are abroad to us, and some kind of mutual non-acceptance, but we really need this discussion today, the one about what it means to be ukrainian when, when we face the existential question of being or not being. therefore, there is some benefit in what

is happening now, if you can talk about it's calm, you can find it, it seems clear to me that if this... everything turns into just destructive, then nothing good will come of it. alexey, also finalize it, i’m just listening to danylo, and i remember that after the black terrorist attack on saturday in israel, we saw this huge phenomenon, a large number of israelis, and they, by the way, in my opinion, are in second or third place after the chinese , like tourists from all over the world, they flew to israel for the war from all corners, we had it. oleksiy, we have the reverse option, i.e. those, maybe who wanted, after all this, what happened

after the events in warsaw, can cause the opposite reaction in my opinion, so it seems, well, i wouldn't exaggerate, you know, a person wanted to defend the country. looked at a video from poland and came up with an idea, then i don’t think that this is happening, well, not all the yews swam over there, you understand that i don’t, i think that something over there swam over the yews, well, maybe, if two two people , then this is too much, in principle, everyone left, i understand, on some grounds, from my point of view, it is necessary just stop the hysteria, comply with the law that is in force now and comply with the law when it comes into force... on may 18, there is a new one, these are amendments to the law, this is not a new law, yes, that is, those who want to receive documents and have the right to cross the border, they can go to ukraine and take these documents, as far as i understand the decision of the cabinet of ministers, the ministry of foreign affairs,

finally after this scandal, taking kulov vaysibig by the hand, will begin to create a system of accounting for people who are abroad and can. register, they have documents there are many, waiting until all of them run out of documents is also not an option , that is, this is the second point, and the third point that came up during this discussion, there is one point that is not paid attention to, is citizens of ukraine, who are now between 18 and 25 years old, they cannot be mobilized under the new law, but they are not released, the country so that they, for example, get an education at universities, it is possible, of course, for patriotic reasons, that everyone takes everyone return students from the university, return them to ukraine, and why not five, 7 years are waiting for them to have a time when they can mobilize, but i do not think that this

is a rational solution, i think that the deputies will have to sit down, think carefully and prepare some new amendments that would solve this problem while this problem don't decide at the legislative level , everyone follows the existing law. it seems to me that this is the most constructive suggestion that can be made in this case. i have now decided that there is one more topic this week, it is also resonant, but if we could analyze it together, colleagues in the verdict from the point of view, no existing in us, but such a necessary institution as the institution of reputation, i want it so that we... through it, through this prism , look at these events that have been taking place in the last few days. and yes, the investigators of the national anti-corruption agency nabu are suspicious and tell us about the cunning schemes of the minister of agrarian policy around

the state geocadaster, namely the plots that were supposed to go to veterans of the ato, but there such a scheme took the plot specially with a mandatory option, and then immediately transferred it for a long-term lease to a certain correct one firmochki, well, in one word, for almost 200 million , such a schematos describes nabu, after which we find out that this order of things is happening, minister mykola solsky writes a statement, submits it to the verkhovna rada, then chooses a preventive measure, everyone at that time says, my god, what a good minister we have, in european terms. just a suspicion, he immediately wrote a statement, immediately suspended himself for the duration of the investigation. then he is chosen, they say, to gamble everything for two months, or a deposit of 75.5 million. today we learn that the unknown heroes of ukraine made that deposit, and then everything

the ministry says, but no, everything is fine, minister mykola solskyi continues to fulfill his duties, and somehow all that europeanness has fallen, and this institute. reputation, it's not even visible anymore, to me, this statement reminds me of a well-known anecdote, you know, if i don't come back, call me a communist, and if i come back, well, if i come back, don't think that solsky is connected with the agrarian lobby and took an active part in the deals, we will not say until the court decision how legal or illegal they were, it was known before how he became the chairman of the committee, not that he was appointed by the minister, the question is why appoint people to positions that have a clear conflict of interest, ugh, but then one thing was needed, so we push the person. position, now we need something else, there is a demand for justice, we exposed everything to everyone, and

now, here we are, you must always coordinate your actions with the goal you set, this applies to everything, regarding, regarding the dp document, regarding receiving help from allies, regarding, excuse me, mr. solsky, mrs. larisa, what about you, because i was most captivated by this option, which i liked at first, the ukrainian family. that is, we suspect 200 million, we make a deposit of 70 million. in short, 125 million profit in your pocket, if you know how to make such schemes, you will always be in checkers and in the pluses. someone is paying attention to it. i paid more attention to the fact that, oh, and everything is finally civilized, there is suspicion. i will withdraw for the duration of the investigation. the court will give its verdict, no right away, no, don't worry, they made a deposit, i'm already in place, i'm a minister again. this affected me the most. and you what, mrs. larisa. well, first of all, we have to understand that this scheme is not only

solsky, there is a whole bunch of people there, including those bogus citizens who received their own plots, and immediately handed them over. moreover, this scheme works constantly. we have a problem, we constantly grab one another, but we do not talk about the fact that a huge number of people, even more, have been participating in these schemes for years, decades. i call it, well, it's... there is such a name, you know, the burden of a small person, a whole bunch of mothers with many children, participants ato, someone else, they write statements, they are allocated plots, because these plots are there, for another atoshnyk, who came, wrote to him, they say there is no land, they get it, they get their thousand dollars, give the plot to a dealer and leave, we already have half the country it's so wasteful, and it's not only the ones in sol, in our country we won't learn until now, because we need to stop the schemes, which should be stopped at the legislative level , there will be as many such skins as possible, and the fact that it is planted does not make me happy, because i do not see ,

where those who took part in this scheme, and where is the change in the legislation so that it will no longer be possible, mr. danylo, you talk a lot in your author's videos about the institute of reputation, which is so necessary and does not exist, here is the story about exactly that, or is it a little different here ? yeah, i'm the only thing, before i answer your question, roman, i'd still like to emphasize that bail is not a punishment, it's not a fine, so to do, like, compare and talk about the net profit from the amount damages, amount of damages and the size of the bail, it is not quite correct, bail, i gave you as an example how people discuss it, it is not, i also know these norms, but i just cited that this is how people perceive such cases. well, you don't need to help them perceive it that way, i think so , yes, look, as far as solsky's statement is concerned,

if, on the one hand, in a vacuum, it seems like the right step is to submit an application for dismissal in connection with such that's the story, only we have to remember that in addition to everything else that you've already said, the same statement has to be adopted by the parliament, uh, and well if, it is not a fact that the votes for this will be found in the parliament, therefore... well, if possible, mr. tsovsky feels that everything will be absolutely fine with him, and that the parliament will express its confidence in him and in this way he will be around for a long time and something similar to how they said on monday that kubrakov no longer wants everything, and malyuska no longer wants it, but they were told yes, stop, we don't vote on personnel issues, you don't want to, you have to be a minister, go on, comrades, somewhere it looks like this, well, somewhere something like that, yes, but in general, look, if we talk about... we don't have this practice in power, we don't have this mentality in power, because on the one hand,

let's imagine that even minister solsky, for the best, idealistic reasons, took and wrote this statement, as a conscious a citizen and a statesman, at the same time we well remember oleg tatarov, who was not released after nabu isab also informed him of the suspicion, because he is more in the eyes of all honest and not quite honest. they smeared him from responsibility as best they could, moreover, in our country, i know what i'm already dealing with this story a bit like a city madman, yes, but i just... want to remind you that in 2020, we appointed olga stefanishyna as the minister, vice-prime minister for european integration, who already at that time was suspected of especially a serious official crime, corruption, now she is accused, her case is being considered in the higher anti-corruption court, she is

in the lukash case as her accomplice, and despite all this, no one cares, no one... gave a hard time, never appointed her on position in the status of a suspect, not now, when she is effectively negotiating with our partners in the status of accused, that is, we don’t have this culture to somehow orientate ourselves, at least in terms of reputational moments, for some reason we only have that, only you ask a question about tatarov zelensky there or yermak, or what about stefanishyna, they will immediately... mention the presumption of innocence, but people, we are not talking about criminal proceedings here, and dismissal from office is not a form of criminal punishment. we talk about the fact that either we fight for some reputation and some purity in power, or we pretend that all this does not matter. therefore, individually, once again, let's just imagine that solsky

did it for the best reasons. even if it were so, then one solsky, taken separately, is the whole of this. practice will not change, we need to fundamentally change the perception of reputation, and this can only be done through society, if this request appears in society, here danylo said the right things, i smiled something to myself when you said that dismissal is not a criminal measure of punishment, i immediately remembered, that's right, when there is a suspicion, the greatest punishment is to send you, for example, as an ambassador to slovenia, well, if there are suspicions, as it was with the minister of defense, then the worst... punishment, anu went as an ambassador to slovenia, here is your punishment, oleksiy, look, you are two dimensions, questions, questions, what to punish slovenians for, here actually, poor slovenians, yes, but in this case, when we are talking about the institution of reputation, reputation, it is such a concept, firstly ephemeral, secondly, in the internal

dimension, it is read in the same way, but there is an external dimension, and here it is with the light hand of our colleague danylo. shout, i remembered it, and now i will ask my colleagues to prepare it and show it, because danylo told the story of the vice-president of ukraine, who has , perhaps, sometimes more powers than the president, well, we are all with you, colleagues, remember we know that tens of millions of ukrainians voted for vice president andriy yermak and for all his powers, international, internal, personnel, security, judicial, and all others, and that's when i listened to this program danyla, i will pay attention again to what is called the reputation of all of us and the country, represented in one bottle by one person, and it is not only about the contents, it is not only about, it is in one word, it is reputation, international relations and diplomacy are well, it's a very delicate matter, now i think we can hold out for 25

seconds for you, for the viewers, and for you in our program, the verdict is 25 seconds for sure.

diplomatic and other things, and this is the reputation of the whole country, and the armed forces, and those who are in restaurants, sitting in the rear, it is all of us represents such and such a level, mr. oleksiy, what to do with it, with such a reputation, and nothing, i believe that this is the least that can be presented to any official, i would like to hear how he speaks ukrainian sullivan, i don't think that... because she criticized irmak, but the question is that the president is responsible for this, the president chooses his advisers, biden, sullivan, who, who

is not liked by many in our country, also, by the way , zelensky yermaka, that is, zelensky is obviously responsible for what he does the head of the administration, yes, but these powers, they cannot be represented by him, and he has no powers, the president cannot delegate his powers. it turns out that he transferred, no, no, legally he did not transfer anything, but legally, danylo, how about you, you yourself missed everything 100 times through yourself, your opinion, and mrs. larisa, it’s just interesting, because here and about reputation, and about image, and by authority, and about everything you want, who is first, well, let me say this time, briefly, if we take sullivan's analogy, then the difference between yarmak and sullivan is that sullivan does not try to speak ukrainian and... conduct negotiations with the ukrainian side without an interpreter, unlike yermak, who does. secondly, strictly speaking, yermak's problem is not that zelensky can

appoint himself any head of the president's office, or in principle the president has, this is part of the mandate given to the president by the voters, to appoint anyone as the head of the president's office, but the head of the office the president with the relevant these, and not actually the deputy president of ukraine, andriy yermak, de facto, does not rely on his powers, because legally zelenskyi really did not transfer anything to him there, although he granted him the status of a negotiator there at various points, but de facto andriy yermak is endowed with enormous powers and a mandate to bestow these powers precisely on volodymyr. none of the voters gave, and this is the problem that we have a top politician in the state who does not have any even indirect legitimacy,

this is where i see the problem. we understand what it is the most popular ukrainian according to zhuralum this year, the most influential, the most influential, the point is that here i still agree with mr. oleksiy that this... is not our biggest problem with mr. yermak, because in principle he has no powers, the president did not transmit yermak will not insert signatures at these negotiations, does not sign as someone. don't laugh, mr. danyla, he was not given authority, he was given power, and these are other things, these are other things, he does not sign anywhere, how. that is not clear, he

in fact, on behalf of zelenskyi , zelenskyi's cook could talk to giuliani, zelenskyi's maid could, anyone, karl santaker, could come and convey some conversation, again, again, giuliani is not the queen of england either, it's just a conversation. but the fact that yermak himself has the authority, as i wrote the signature: i appointed the minister under my signature, he does not have the authority, and therefore we will not present anything to him after he signed, that here is your signature under illegal decision or illegal device, he is actually he, he has enormous power, he is under his influence in fact. the state is functioning, but he does not put his hand painted anywhere, and this is the problem of the problem, you are only talking about this,

listen, mr. danyla, listen, i am saying that this is the problem, absolutely irresponsible under the crazy government, that the fair, what, that there isn't a problem, there really is, because based on that, so what you're arguing about, i'm saying that a man who... has insane power, almost presidential power, no presidential powers, and is not responsible for, he doesn't sign anything to him then in the judge, as every official in our country, mr. danyla, is generally subject to the law on civil service, his powers are limited, he will be answerable to the law, here a person possesses the power of the president, and is not subject to it, this is the problem, this is absolute impunity, i agree with you we have already had problems with this several times in kuchma, the head of the administration, first tabachnyk,

then medvedchuk, now all of them. where it is, and then we see what is happening in us. that is, again, this is a question to zelenskyi, he does not understand this, he, well, the textbook cannot open ukrainian history, see how it can end. yes, look, we have to finalize, because we have 3 minutes left, friends, here's a minute for everyone, because through this prism, yes, the magazine of this most influential ukrainian, we got to the point that it's walking in circles again, because it was not for nothing that oleksii remembered. well, now it’s just the time of the surname yermak, and before that tabachnyk, and before that, after him medvedchuk, well, we can’t break out of this it's a closed circle, danylo, but after a minute everyone finalizes, that's why i'm throwing the introduction into the water, do they just change names? we have the problem of established practices and the problem of what and under the authorities, in particular volodymyr zelenskyi in

general and... and this was even more intensified in the conditions of martial law, these practices periodically acquired some kind of caricature scale, because the analogy, which, which you refer to tabachnyk and medvedchuk, you can also refer to baloga there, yes, she is justified, but yermak, he is a caricature of that influence, which had tabachnyk, medvedchuk, there was chiloga. er, and in what way do we benefit from these practices, which with the help of not even the legal regime of martial law, but in general the atmosphere of martial law, are strengthened, established, and increasingly embedded in ukrainian society, i do not know, but we it is necessary to return to the fact that there is still a law and it has meaning, there is legislation and

it has. the importance of practice cannot prevail over the law, for a moment we still have friends, mr. oleksiy, or we must bring practice into line with the law or to adopt a law so that it would correspond in practice or, conditionally speaking, to appoint yermak as prime minister, well then he will be responsible for what he is doing in such a scenario that there are no opportunities to make such decisions now. yes, ms. larisa, you, do you want to finalize? i believe that in this case we should talk about the illegal transfer of powers and duties by mr. president. yes, or mine, he can hand over his company name, he can hand over his lovers, he can hand over his mother-in-law 's dog. that is, what is it? we are talking about that it should be a crime. you are in a position, you

have... statutes, duties and you have to fulfill them, if you transfer them to someone, then it is a crime, this is how it should be, if a doctor transfers his duties to perform an operation to his korish mechanic, then i'm sorry, he will be jailed, but on the scale of the country, why is this, why do we pretend that this is how it should be, but in fact, that we are not pretending, but just somehow got to this crime and punishment, crime and punishment, like. .. here it turns out that there is an awareness of the crime, but there is no punishment, ok, here are three points, colleagues, i really thank you for an interesting conversation for our viewers, it was a verdict program, larisa voloshyn, oleksiy mustafin, danylo mokryk were in it, i am grateful to you and the viewers for their attention, thank you also, see you in the verdict tell serhii rudenko, and i also thank you for your attention.

even before the signing of the law on additional aid from the united states, ukraine secretly received atakams missiles and apparently already had time to use them. the kremlin has already responded to russia's opposition. we are talking about today of the bbc: i am olga palomaryuk. american aid, which was finally signed by joe biden this week, may reach ukraine in the near future. the aid package, worth almost 61 billion dollars, will be divided into parts, the first of which will be for 1 billion dollars. the biden administration reported that it will include air defense equipment, artillery shells, ammunition, combat vehicles of the bradley infantry vs.