cheryl: and good morning, i'm cheryl casone, in for maria bartiromo. who he's is on asignment. it is monday, may 6 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. time for the hot topic of the hour. a new abc news survey showing trump supporters are not worried about whether the former president will be consistent ofa crime, 80% say you they would cast their ballot for him if he gets convicted before the election. voters say they trust trump to handle top election issues which include the economy, inflation, crime and safety. trump has a 14 point lead on vor trust over biden, 46% of of 32%. grand new this morning, gallup says voter confidence in biden to do the right thing on the economy is the lowest measure for any president since 2001. all right, liz, as of yesterday,

that was the six month mark away from the election. we have six months to go. these polls show that when it comes to the top issues, i it is president trump over joe biden. >> that's been the case over the last year at least. for good reason. people remember that under donald trump inflations was contained. it was below 2%. the economy was growing fast, unemployment was very low. now we have an economy that's basically propped up by two things, e excessive federal spending and illegal immigration. illegal immigration means there's lots of people to take the jobs that are available keeping wages down which by the way some workers are going to begin to notice in their paycheck and excessive federal spending that's keeping demand up so really our economy i think is kind of fragile right now. the jobs report that was out last week showed a slowing in job creation and investors have a a pavlovian response thinkinge

could see rate cuts but it could be the beginning of a downturn which nobody is expecting. going back to gordon chang's comments, china is going to do everything to ensure joe biden is reelected. the gop has to be out there talking about ballot harvesting and all the issues that hurt us in 2020. i hope they're ready for this. cheryl: interesting. i want to pick be up on you couple of those points that she says here because look, if you look at the importance and trust issue, on the economy by the way importance in the vote, 88% is the economy. and that -- trump has a 14 point lead in that section. inflation, 85%. and trump has a 14 point lead as well right there. it's about the economy, stupid. how many times are we going to say it. >> absolutely. i don't think one interest rate cut will make a difference. i think people even though they find certain aspects of trump's personality less than desirable, i think the das have done the

impossible by bringing charges against him, they've made donald trump seem sympathetic. i think they're going to pull centrist voters. he feeds off the anger of the crowd and becomes more powerful. i think it's the truth. i think people want the economy to be good, want to be better with china, want to feel we're in a more secure and safe country and i think that's why they're turning towards him. cheryl: let's talk about this trial. because the hush money trial resumes this morning, prosecutors are preparing to put this week at some point michael cohen on the stand and jurors did hear on friday from former trump aide hope hix, she detailed what happened before and after the access hollywood tape was leaked and she described trump's interactions with his wife and saying he valueses mrs. trump's opinions, he didn't want anyone to be hurt or embarrassed by what happened with the campaign. john ratcliffe was on with maria

yesterday. here's how sees all of this. watch. maria: give us your legal as exact, legal perspective of the manhattan da's trial with donald trump. >> it's been a train wreck for the prosecution. every witness they called so far is a witness intending to harm donald trump and in fact in every instance they have at least in part helped donald trump with his case. and every witness that the state has called so far has also said that the state's most important witness, michael cohen, can't be believed, that he's essentially a pathological liar. so if this were a fair judge and a fair jury, the case already would have been dismissed or the case would be decided in the jurors' minds. cheryl: liz, seems like it's a bipartisan picture of michael cohen. >> everybody hates michael cohen. americans are hearing two incredibly distinct versions of what's going on at this trial. over the weekend, the left wing media was talking about how hope

hicks really doubled down on trump having funneled money to hush up the stormy daniels and then the other side i think more reasonably saying she completely torpedoed the case by saying that trump really cares about melania trump and wanted to protect her from bad stories getting out. what's incredible to the me is the left wing media will not come out and say there is no crime here. and honestly, i've tried to listen to this at a fair minded way. there is no crime. what trump did is not illegal. so it's incredible that even so-called legal experts talking on bloomberg over the weekend thought it was perfectly okay that they're humiliating this man and that is their main objective. cheryl: to that point, chris, is it election interference or is it you're trying to make sure your wife didn't find out about something that you did which was cheating so that's the argument here. that's li liss -- liz's point.

>> i think people are willing to look past that. i think people like, add a admid feel deeply about american ex seeping nailism. that's what -- exceptionalism. that's what president trump is giving them. protecting his wife, that's something that is drawing people in. i think we'll see some significant shift in his direction because of this. chewe'vegot a lot more could cos morning. we're going to talk more about the trial in the next hour but we are now going to look ahead to a big week of first quarter earnings. we've got disney and lyft out tomorrow, uber is coming out wednesday. word on wall street panel is here to weigh in,s that's coming up next. don't miss a moment of it. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business.

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on wall street. top investors watching your money. joining me is managing principle and founder, ryan baliner, also with me, chris mcmann. ryan, let's take a take a look at futures, we're starting this first full trading weak for the month of may and you've got the dow up 119, nasdaq up 39, s&p up 16 and change. we're up year-to-date for the major indices. investors are starting to get worried about weak profit outlook and that threaten the rally for the year. and you've got several first quarter numbers coming out this week, we've got spirit airlines, so first off they've reported they missed on earnings. revenue in line with expectations. they also expect that their cost saving initiatives are going to benefit this year by more than $75 million. we're going to hear from tyson foods later on this hour. disney before the bell tomorrow. we've got our parent company, fox corp., uber, airbnb on wednesday and warner brothers discovery on thursday. first off, talk about these margins being squeezed and if

that's a concern for you. is that going to threaten the rally? second question to you. what are you expecting this week from some of the big entertainment names? >> yeah, i think any time you get margin pressure that's always the case for concern in if any company, i think that's highlighted by spirit there. i think this week we're definitely focused on the consumer. i mean that being such a big share of gdp. we've gotten some indications that things are slowing down, you heard that from a lot of the fast food chains. mcdonald's has been saying it for months and the data showed the fast food sales are down 2 and-a-half percent year over year. but that's also bleeding into grocery sales are now down 2% year over year so my guess, cheryl, is that the consumer fresh out of the stimulus, probably maxed on credit, starting to get smarter with their spending and saying look, where am i spending my dollars. i need to be more careful. i can't just buy anything now. i think that's what we're starting to see with some of the

consumer names and we'll be watching it with dishe any and uber this -- disney and uber this week as well. cheryl: that's why i think it's so important and i brought this up already, the march consumer credit report. that comes out tomorrow. economists expect credit to rise to $15 billion. not a surprise because we've seen personal a savings rates going down and then obviously we've seen credit card usage go up. hen we're going to get that preliminary reading for may consumer sentiment, that's friday. to your point, the wall street journal wrote that consumers are fed up with these high food costs and they're ditching big brands as a result. they say that restaurant chains and food manufacturers are reporting sliding sales, slowing growth and they're saying that it's because of consumers' inability or more importantly, chris to, you the refusal to pay high prices. >> it's really amacing. they're actually talking about brands that used to be value brands. we see family dollar had to close 1,000 stores, people say they won't buy chips ahoy cookies.

mcdonald's pricing up 39% since 2019. this affects folks in a meaningful way. it's something when we see this. we don't know what's next. at the end of the day, $1.4 trillion of credit card debt means people can't spend any longer. there will be impacts. a bright spot, walmart is doing a good thing for themselves, better foods, whole brand, better goods, a brand they're coming out with, 300 low cost brands that i think will take a big chunk of this consumer who is looking for better value. cheryl: look, waller mart marketplace, that's -- walmart marketplace, they're basically taking over grocery are stores, making shawl grocery stores r that's how they're making money. staying with this. look at this from the journal, fast food prices in march, 33% higher than they were in 2019. grocery prices have jumped 26%. so basically consumers are saying they're comparing pre-covid prices to what they're

paying now and they're saying that's it, i'm out, they're not going to pay it anymore. this is a big wakeup call for the industry, the consumer products industry. >> i think so. for many, many quarters these companies have just been having rising sales, but it's all been priced, the volumes are ticking down slowly but surely. wall street journal t street is going to expect the companies to figure something out, they have to get leaner, more productive. a.i. might factor into some of that progress. but the consumer is pretty much tapped out and so i think that will be something we're watching in the coming months. it's no surprise that 401-k hardship withdrawals are at a record level right now. i mean, people are trying to find cash wherever they can and so i think that's really going to make companies think twice about raiseing prices because people are fed up. companies have to get more creative, more productive or we'll see a slowdown p pretty

soon. cheryl: they're not going to starbucks. that's in the report. kraft heinz, chips ahoy, people are passing them up, they're going for generic products, generic brands. >> impulse travel, we'll see what happens with disney, other places. spirit airlines had a miss this morning. they have bigger problems. they have good leadership. but we have concerns. they're talking about taking 50 planes possibly out of service this year because of the metal dust that may interfere with the operation of the engine, by the way, that's an alarming way to phrase that. i think at the end of the day some of these companies are really going to have -- some of the companies have to retool, tight n their belts because the consumers is getting tapped out. cheryl: they've also got the failed merger issue going on as well. ryan, thank you very much for being with us. chris, you're going to stay with us all morning long. appreciate it is guys. speaker drama in the house has

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cheryl: anti-israel protesters hoisting a large palestinian flag above its encampment in george washington university yesterday. the statue remains defaced this morning as the university's president calls the encampment, quote, increasingly unsafe. that is george washington, that's the statue you in front of you. wall street journal writes left leaning activist groups trained students for months before the protests started. congresswoman elise stefanik joined maria on sunday morning futures. maria: who is funding this? i was told that a lot of these groups were getting direction from social media. >> this is a well organized entity of far left democrat radical groups. in add diecious, there is a -- addition, there is a foreign funding piece that is very important take that we get to the bottom of. individuals that are part of the pro hamas riots or encampments who are on student visas, those

visas need to be revoked and those individuals need to be deported immediately. in the case of columbia, we found from nypd that over 40% of the rioters were neither students, professors or faculty members. cheryl: joining me now is new jersey congressman jeff van drew. congressman, your reaction to the fact that these protests -- obviously, here in new york and parts of new jersey, we've seen a little bit of a change in some encampments cleared but overall across the country they don't appear to be going anywhere. >> well, first of all, let's understand, protesting has always been a right in america. peaceful protest, rallying, nothing wrong with that but what is very wrong here and with what is unacceptable here is how it's being done. it's c creating chaos, they're encouraging violence, doing harm to people by preventing them from graduating, having

graduation ceremonies, going to classes, et cetera. we've got to follow the money on this. there's i think really important initiatives we can take. we need to go forward with the legislation i'm a sponsor of, among others, that would actually follow the money. if tax dollars are going to these institutions, then these institutions are doing nothing about this, that flow of tax dollars has to stop. we need to know who is doing what, where they're coming from, who are really students, how has this been setting up. so again, let's follow the organization. let's follow what's happening and where this organization is coming from, how many of these students are actually on visas and if they are on visas, they should be returned -- they should be detained, deported, returned to their country of origin. we don't have the time or the money to actually be supporting them and anti-american activities. and again, we need to follow where this is happening, why it's happening, who is organizing, who is conducting this, where the money's coming

from, who these supposed students are that are actually involved with this kind of violence, then we'll know a lot more how we can really go about stopping it but it's totally unacceptable. it's not organic. this is actually happening with direction from i believe from individuals abroad and within the united states of america to create disruption. cheryl: well, okay, let me ask you this. do you know is there any type of federal investigation underway right now out of washington get to the bottom of that? because i'll give you one example. here in new york, nypd told us 47% of those that were arrested were not students p. so where are they coming from? shouldn't this be up to the federal government? to find out where they're coming from. >> our department of justice is lacking so much. they're investigating americans that aren't causing any harm but might have conservative

political beliefs but they aren't investigating the anti-american activity and it truly is. that's why we're doing legislation to mandate and say we want to know who are the people involved, where are the dollars coming from? it's way too organized. this isn't just a bunch of students and all of a sudden finding some sort of organization. this is a regimented organized effort and reminds us of what we've seen in the past with black lives matter and antifa. some of the individuals may even be the same individuals but you're absolutely right. we need to know, this is the job of the federal government. we don't stop free speech. but we do stop vie license and -- violence and those that are trying to incentivize hatend a hate speech and anti-semitism and hurting the united states of america so they should be doing this but if they're not, let's do legislation. cheryl: i've got throw it out there. so far, no comment from the justice department at all as to

whether or not they're going to pursue this but there are calls for them to do just that, congressman. i want to move to what's happening in washington within the house of representatives, your house. so georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is expected to bring her motion to oust t house speaker johnson from the floor this week. he is defending his record. he told axios he's the most conservative speaker to hold the gavel, calling the motion to vacate a recipe for chaos. would you support marjorie taylor greene's move this week to oust house speaker johnson? >> look, i was disaponted in some of the legislation that went through as well. i didn't like the appropriation bills where he spent money on things we absolutely shan't have that people would really find issue with, didn't like the way we're a taking care can of ukraine's borders but we can't take care of our own and that a was supposed to be joined together. i don't support that. i was really unhappy with fisa.

i worked with jim jordan on the judiciary commit the at this to make sure we had a good bill so we could protect america but not invade people's personal rights. didn't like the bill that went through. i want to say this on the strongest possible terms, this is not the time, this is not the place. it is counter productive to vacate the speaker's position. what we need to do right now is one word. cheryl. that's to win. we have to win a more robust and stronger majority in the house of representatives. we need to win the senate and make sure we have a majority of. and we need to put president trump in the president's position. when we do all that, then we can really get and accomplish goals and get things done. cheryl, we've got to learn to see the end game the way the democrats do. this is counter-productive, this is going to be a side show. this is not what it's about. once we win all that and move forward to a real congress that's going to function well with a robust conservative majority, then we can discuss

what we want to do with the speaker's position. this is not the time. it's not the place. cheryl: it seems to me that marjorie taylor greene more and more is isolated. why is she continuing to push this narrative, do you think, sir? have you spoken with her? >> i don't know. cheryl: knock on the door. knock on her door and say what's going on. >> i'll tell you what. i've spoken numerous times and i know that president trump has spoken with her and i know that he was again over the weekend. president trump does not believe we should do this. 99% of our republican majority believes we should not do this. and marjorie i understand how she feels. i respect some of the things she's done and the courage she's had but these wrong on this one. this is the wrong thing to do. if she's not careful it can create chaos in the house and we cannot gain the majority we normally would. this is ceding power to the democrats. we shouldn't be doing that right

now. we don't need democrats of save johnson. we need to come together as a functioning, strong majority, do the right thing, pass good legislation, stand up for american freedoms and win. let's learn that word, cheryl. how to win. cheryl: congressman jeff van drew, it's always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you for being here this morning. >> thank you. cheryl: all right. we'll be right back.

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cheryl: a deadly mystery in mexico after three surfers went missing. lauren simonetti has details. this story is incredible. >> i know. and the families of those three

surfers who were murdered on a trip to mexico have confirmed their identity as american jack carecarter road and jake and cab robinson. their bodies were found last week at the bottom of 50-foot well. the texas chief pros you cue tore said they were victims of a carjacking gone wrong, saying he believed the carjackers wanted the tires on the car. three suspects have been detained. hims and hers founder and ceo andrew dunham is a palestinian american and is now walking back his support for the anti-israel protesters after his company's stock fell. dunham's clarify case,-clarify case, saying i don't support the threats or intimidation, every student deserves to feel safe without fear of harm or being targeted for who they are.

i'm deeply saddened by support for peaceful protest has been interpreted by some of op of encouraging protesters. the stock fell after he encouraged protest theres and included a link to where they could aply for a job. the stock is up almost 5 and-a-half percent in the premarket. boeing is finally ready to launch its star liner space capsule after a 10 year delay. two astronauts will pilot the trip launching from cape canaveral tonight, the first time humans flown on board. dealt with a series of problems that pushed back the launch significantly. the spacecraft is expected to dock at the international space station a day after lifting off. stock up a bit in the premarket at 180 a share but think of all the passenger jet quality control issues.

cheryl: -- >> i can't imagine getting on that space shift but- cheryl: if you want to get any type of craft, whether spacecraft or aircraft. >> boeing's reputation is on the line right now. >> they've had big delays. >> 10 year delay. >> good for those guys. i hope it turns out okay. cheryl: the stock, she mentioned it, it's up today but it's had a rough ride. >> absolutely. there's so many issues around quality. the jury is still out. i don't think we'll know where we are until at least the fourth quarter. cheryl: hopefully they dock with the iss and it's all good and well. >> we'll be watching tonight. >> hopefully boeing gets back on rack. this is a great american company we need. >> it's important for our country, no question. cheryl: thank you, lauren well, former president donald trump's hush money trial set to resume today, trump reportedly slamming the case during a private donor

retreat in palm beach florida over the weekend accusing president biden of, quote, running a gestapo administration. this after a em mention nail emy from trump's press secretary hope hicks, she told jurors trump was concerned about the story could harm the family or cause them embarrassment. joining us now, former chief speech writer for george w. bush, bill mcgurn. good morning. >> good morning. cheryl: assess for us right now where you think we are in the trump trial and what effect do you think hope hicks' testimony from friday had on the jury? >> well, i think hope hicks, her testimony is like a lot of the other stuff in this, it's very dramatic. this is a soap opera aspect to it. but at the end of the day, where is the crime? i think what's really happened to the trial is it's become another platform that donald

trump has used pretty skillfully. he goes out, there's cameras waiting for him and he makes a statement on whatever he likes. he couldn't buy publicity like that. cheryl: liz peek was mentioning this a few moments ago. liz, jump in here. you had said where is the crime. i think that's a fair question at this point. >> also, bill, i'm so offended by the way the left wing media is reporting on this trial. they never go to the legal issues. it's all about humiliation and as you say the soap opera aspects of it. there's no fairness in the trial. there's also no fairness in the coverage of the trial. so it may be a lot of free publicity but i've got to tell you, people only watch msnbc and read the new york times have a really different view of this than people who watch fox news. >> yeah, i think you're right. but look at what is donald trump calculating? he's calculating that he's not going to win the case. it's stacked against him. i mean, never should have been

brought. it's really a farce. and what has he done? he used the cameras to make his case and i think he's -- and the polls show he persuaded the majority of people that the trial is not fair. he's not-and that he's going to be found guilty. they know that. i think he's done the best he can given the hand and he comes out each day and has news conference and gets more attention than joe biden. >> that's easy. [laughter] cheryl: you're right. the abc news poll, 80% continue to support donald trump even if he is convicted. 80% of his supporters say they will still vote for him even if a conviction comes down in the trial in new york and you're right, bill, two other jurisdictions didn't want the case but alvin bragg campaigned on it, alvin bragg is forging ahead, maybe at his own peril. let's stay with donald trump. the rnc announcing 76 in last

month's fund raising. maria asked lara trump about this on sunday morning futures. maria: how are you raising money and putting president trump in front of donors if he has to be in new york all day long. >> they want to keep donald trump trapped in a courtroom an not able to go out and campaign and their hope is that somehow that helps joe biden. donald trump's poll numbers continuing to go up and at the rnc and trump campaign we announced our april fun raising exceeded expectations, we raised $76 million and the beauty of that is the average donation, maria, is under $30. that means that people of this country understand what's at stake, they understand what is happening to this man, this lawfare that is waged against him in an you attempt to interfere in an election and they are fighting back. cheryl: so bill, what doeses this mean for joe biden if donald trump is gaining support and gaining funding because of this trial? >> well, i think it looks bad. look, we know joe biden can't

campaign on his record. he's given up touting bidenomics. the big case in the middle east he's trying to play both sides and they both hate him now. he's not going to get younger between now and november. i think you can't predict what's going to happen s months out but i don't see any warming signs for mr. biden. cheryl: well, his age certainly was front and center in this ipso poll, the abc news poll, when it came to mental sharpness, trump had a 19% advantage and 22% advantage physical health. politico wrote pro palestinian pro he testers are backed by a surprising source, biden's biggest donors including some of the biggest names in democrat circles, soros, rockefeller,

fpritzker. jim banks posted surprising to who. bilker is this the worst kept secret that that's where the money is coming from to fund the protests. >> it's like the scene in casablanca where the inspector says he's shocked to discover gambling going on. who else would they back? again, i mentioned before, joe biden's mistake is he tried to play both sides and whenever you do that, you end up alienating both sides. the chant at the university of alabama, the pro-palestinian chant was against joe biden. the pro-israeli side started saying expel joe biden. both sides hate him, have consistent t. havecontempt.

it's not surprising they're backing the palestinian protests. cheryl: if the you look at the piece from the journal, deep dive into who is funding and training these students and, bill, again, i bring up you the wall street journal reporting because you're here, that this group, the nat nation students r justice of palestine, they're veterans, former black panthers, started galvanizing these kids maybe as far back as october. >> right. you know what they're gear upping for now, like after the graduation season? the democratic convention in chicago. there's a whole website. they've had meetings. they're very above board about what they plan and i think they plan chaos. cheryl: so we should believe the reports out there, other media outlets reporting that the democrats are very concerned about chicago and they're already putting plans in place, the city of chicago, to protect joe biden because they don't

want another 1968 situation on their hands. >> yeah, i think -- i mean, joe biden's in a tough case. he looks at michigan, large arab population, dearborn, and a he's worried if he goes too hard for israel he might lose those votes but i see it a little bit differently. i think standing firm against hamas, against the protesters, no one likes them. they're so obnoxious. they just get in the way of people going to class and menace students, they chain themselves on bridges to hold up people trying to get to the airport or a hospital. no one likes them. i think he would do much better to go after the protesters especially the violent, obnoxious ones. cheryl: well, it took him long enough to speak out. it wasn't until thursday. that was after what he saw happening at ucla's campus, apparently because his favorite morning show decided to pick up

on the fact that he been silence. now we know what's going on at the white house. bill mcgurn, always a pleasure to have you on the show. >> thank you. cheryl: we've got a lot more coming up. day 12 of trump's trial resumes today here in new york city. fox business' lydia hu live outside of the courthouse with more. lydia, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, cheryl. s that's right, last week the prosecutors called hope hicks one-time trump advisor in the white house, spokesperson for the 2016 campaign to the stand but did her testimony help or hurt the prosecution case? we get into that as we start the fourth week of this criminal trial here in manhattan and consider who could be next to be called to the stand in just a couple of hours of. don't go away.

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cheryl: time for the morning buzz. witness testimony resumes today in former president trump's hush money trial. fox business' lydia hu outside of a new york city courtroom with more. lydia. >> reporter: good morning, cheryl. we're starting this fourth week of the criminal trial fresh froffthe testimony from hope his last week, former aide to the trump white house and spokesperson for the 2016 trump campaign. she was called by pros prosecutn this case. her testimony hurt their case more than it helped it. she said trump was concerned about the wall street journal

publishing the stormy p daniels story because he was concerned about the impact to family, mainly melania. that undermines the narrative that trump sought to suppress negative stories to influence the election. on defense cross examination, hicks said she had nothing to do with bookkeeping and business records which is an important reminder about what this case is all about. trump is y accused of falsifying documents to cover up the intent to commit some other crime here. that being a conspiracy to influence the election. but like with hicks, each witness that we've heard from so far in these weeks of testimony leaves court watchers and perhaps jurors asking how does this testimony prove that documents were falsified here? that's a huge open question that prosecutors have to answer. right now it's unclear who could be called next in just a couple hours to take the witness stand but all of this is setting the stage for michael cohen, trump's

one-time fixer, prosecutors need him to connect trump to the alleged conspiracy and to say that trump is really behind the falsification of the business records here but as we know, cohen has a host of credibility issues so we're fully expecting cross examination of he michael cohen to be packed with fireworks and finally, cheryl, we're waiting for the judge's decision on add additional gag order violations, another four were raised by prosecutors last week. the judge fined trump $9,000 for violations of the gag order of and also said that jail time was possible if those continued. we're going to see what happens with the additional four as court gets underway in a couple hours. cheryl: we're expecting michael cohen this week. we don't have clarification from the prosecutor as to when they're going to call him. it could today. we just don't know. is that right? >> reporter: that's exactly right. we're expecting him to be called. we don't know when. it could today. it could be later this week.

i'll note that is an unusual development. usually you have some type of idea who is going to be called next be but in had this case the judge is not mandating that the state provide notice to even the defense about the order of their witnesses. cheryl: okay. lydia hu, thank you for that live update interest outside the courthouse. we were talking about how lydia has probably found the best coffee and sandwich shops in downtown man man manhattan. michael cohen, credibility issues. >> he's in jail for. cheryl: he's the star witness. >> star witness to what? we come back to what is the crime. i must say, i think anyone who is actually trying to pay attention to this trial and watch it in a fair-minded way, everything has gone against the trump team and against donald trump. this judge has allowed all kinds of information into the trial like the aces ache access holly,

that karen mcdougal demanded or of was given hush money. none of that is relevant to what is at stake here which is what he did about stormy daniels, right? harvey weinstein's conviction was overturned because of all that incidental information that a was y allowed into the trial. thereare so many grounds for overturning whatever the decision is on the trial including the gag order which you i think, again, any fair minded person has to think is ridiculous. cheryl: they said yesterday, march ymaria's harp position wae would be in jail. >> i never heard of a gag order on a defendant when the chief prosecution witness is on social media night after night impugning his reputation, basically trying the case on

social media and donald trump is not supposed to respond to it? it's ludicrous. cheryl: the other side of this is financial crime cases are already very difficult to prosecute. so this is a -- at the end of the day, this is a financial crime/election interference case according of alvin bragg but in a -- it would be hard enough to the prove it in a civil court. they're criminal court, trying to send him to jail. that seems like a big obstacle to overcome. >> it's certainly unseemly. some of the facts are unseemly. at thend of the day i think trump looks strong and sympathetic. the mistake he makes is when he talks about g gestopo. i think he uses terms he shouldn't at times. i thinks he's winning this in spite of a likely conviction. cheryl: don't target court personnel on a personal level, maybe that's where he's gotten in trouble. we're going to take a quick break. i want to let you know that coming up tomorrow we're taking

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