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real time with bill maher friday nights on hbo or on the max app and you can listen to or watch club random podcast on youtube, or where you stream your podcasts. that enough plugs. ok thank you for watching the issue is we really appreciate it. we'll see you next week with more of crackdowns. following weeks of campus protests across the country over the israel-hamas war left in their wake millions of dollars in property damage and cracks in the credibility of america's universities. thousands arrested from coast to coast in the heat of violent clashes between anti-israel demonstrators and law enforcement. we call on students
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and faculty worldwide to escalate their protests. i hope that the nypd steps in even more than they already are, to ensure the safety of all students on campus. schools rushed to try to strike deals to calm the chaos, and the political blowback. president biden finally breaking his silence on the mayhem, was the right to protest, but not the right to cause chaos. as secretary of state, blinken tries to broker a cease fire deal between israel and hamas. it's on hamas. the deal is there. they should take it. we'll get reaction from marco rubio, the top republican on senate intel, and jim himes, the top democrat on house intel, and talk with virginia attorney general jason miyares on bringing law and order to the chaos on campus. then it's election interference at the highest level. another fascinating week of testimony at former president trump's hush money trial in new york. our panel weighs in on how it's affecting campaign 24. all ahead on fox news sunday. hello from
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fox news in washington. our top story anti-israel protests on campuses across the country. more than 2300 people have been arrested on at least 52 campuses across 27 states since this started in earnest last month. police have cleared protesters away at many colleges, including columbia in new york and the university of virginia in charlottesville, and most universities have significantly increased security as they try to prepare for commencement ceremonies. after days of silence, president biden spoke out thursday supporting free speech but condemning protesters who have caused chaos on campus and used anti-semitic language. meanwhile, in cairo, hamas representatives are meeting with egyptian and qatari mediators on a ceasefire proposal. but back in israel, prime minister benjamin. benjamin netanyahu vows to launch a ground invasion into the southern gazan city of rafah, quote, with or without a
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deal. in a moment, we'll get reaction to all of this from gop senator marco rubio and democrat congressman jim himes. but first fox team coverage with jeff paul and israel and lucas tomlinson at the white house. lucas, we kick it off with you. that's right. shannon. after days of silence about the protests, president biden addressed the nation from here at the white house, protests that are expected to continue throughout the summer and into the democratic national convention. violent protest is not protected. peaceful protest is. biden spoke hours after violence erupted on the campus of ucla. members of the president's own party have criticized his handling of the israel-hamas war and the protests across the united states. progressive democrat rashida tlaib, the only palestinian american in congress , slammed the police response, sending in militarized police forces and even snipers to stop these students for exercising their first amendment right is truly disgusting. a bizarre scene at the university of
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alabama, where both pro and anti-israel protesters chanted the same thing. during the 2020 presidential campaign, as protests. also raged across the country, biden pledged to bring people together. i'm going to bring all these interests together peaceful protesters, police chiefs, police officers, five blocks from the white house at george washington university, the statue of the first president remains defaced after a giant american flag was unfurled. protesters superimposed this image with the words genocide joe. biden's former press secretary, jen psaki, will give the commencement address in two weeks. republican lawmakers visited gw, including byron donalds. everybody believes in peaceful protest, but this is trespassing now, critics say the protests have cost biden's support among young voters. mr. president, have the protests forced you to reconsider any of
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the policies with regard to the region? no thank you, mr. president. right now, president biden's cia director, bill burns, is in cairo as hostage and cease fire negotiations continue. shennon. all right, lucas tomlinson at the white house for us. lucas. thank you. we turn now to fox news correspondent jeff paul in tel aviv. hello, jeff. well, yeah. shannon. hamas leader ismail haniyeh reportedly said today that he wants to see not only a full withdrawal of israeli troops, but a comprehensive cease fire. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying that they can't accept that. and if they did, the next october 7th would be only a matter of time, as pressure builds from abroad on hamas to agree to the latest cease fire agreement, there is a very strong proposal on the table right now. hamas needs to say yes and it is real. patience is running thin. protesters and families of hostages in tel aviv once again pushed their government to act only through
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returning our loved ones home. will the jewish people be made whole again. progress is reportedly being made on the latest deal after a delegation from hamas landed in cairo, egypt, this weekend. it could result in both the release of hostages and a pause in the fighting. an agreement would come at a critical time. israel is preparing its forces for a major ground operation in the southern city of rafah in gaza. that's where more than 1 million palestinians are sheltering from the war. aid is not always available, so i can't say we have enough, but me and my family ration what we receive to get by. as the u.s. continues building a new temporary pier that will eventually help bring more aid into gaza. during his recent trip to israel, u.s. secretary of state antony blinken said more needs to be done. blinken, who met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu for 2.5 hours, reaffirmed the u.s. cannot support a military operation in rafah. netanyahu says it will happen. israel israel will not
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agree to hamas demands, which means surrender and will continue fighting until all of its goals are achieved. now we are learning. a few hours ago, there was a mortar attack at the kerem shalom crossing, which connects israel to gaza. hamas has claimed responsibility for the attack that injured seven people, including one person who is in critical condition. that crossing, which is critical in getting humanitarian aid into gaza, is now closed. shannon all right. jeff paul reporting for us from israel. jeff. thank you. joining us now, gop senator marco rubio, ranking member of the senate intel committee. welcome back to fox news sunday. thank you. okay, so let's start there. it sounds like this hostage negotiation deal is falling apart. secretary blinken said hamas just needs to say yes. and not only does it not sound like they're saying yes, they've got this shelling this morning at an aid crossing that is going to shut it down. you have been there in recent days
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with the prime minister. they say they're moving in on rafah. where do we go from here? well it's their war and they have a right to fight it. these are degenerate savages, hamas. i mean, just think about the report that i just heard a second ago. okay everybody is saying send in humanitarian aid. these poor people are starving. well, that's what they tried to do. and these guys are launching mortar attacks against the humanitarian aid that's coming in. you know, that a lot of the humanitarian aid that's getting in and israel is allowing it in anyways because they know they need to do it. but hamas, this stuff's being sold in the marketplace, this administration, this is israel's war. we should basically say we are on the side of the people who were the victims on october 7th of a bunch of savages and lunatics who came across that border and massacred and killed and kidnaped and raped and took hostages back with them. these people need to be defeated. how is israel supposed to coexist, to live side by side alongside next to these people and when they talk about displaced people, there are 80,000 israelis right now that are displaced from the north. they have to live. i saw them, they
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are living in hotels. their kids are going to school online and conference rooms at hotels. they can't go north because hezbollah is attacking them in north, in northern israel. so this is a time where we need to have not a weak and feeble president, but someone who makes it very clear that we are on israel's side. they are the good guys in this fight, and hamas are the evil ones. and these terrible civilian casualties that are happening is because hamas is using them as human shields. well, and i think that a lot of people, as we watch these campus protests and demonstrations spread, would agree that nobody wants civilians to be killed in this process. but in many of those cases, clearly they have crossed the line to actually threatening fellow students. those kinds of things we're hearing now from some international students who are speaking up, saying they worry that because they may be suspended or disciplined, it could cost them their student visa to be here in the u.s. do you think that's going too far? do you think that's an appropriate response? i think joe biden and he hasn't done it again, because he's fikh and he's he's weak and he's feeble. but joe biden had very early on should have said, as i asked him to do back in october, if you're
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in the streets of the united states, you're here as a visitor on a visa, okay? you're not an american. you're here on a visa, and you're here to teach or you're here to go to school and you're out there chanting on behalf of hamas and hezbollah and these terrorist groups, who, by the way, also hate america. we should revoke your visa if you are here in this country as a visitor on a visa, and you are defacing statues in george washington, ripping down american flags, putting up palestinian flags, you should have your visa revoked and eliminated. and i and he should have been very clear about whose side we're on from the very beginning. but look, there's a bunch of democratic donors, major democratic donors who are behind the groups that are funding all this. i saw the other day. i think it was in ucla. there's thousands of dollars of plywood that they were using as barricades against the police. they're committing acts of violence, not just acts of anti-semitism, acts of violence, of vandalism, threatening people. i saw another video of a jewish student who had to get police, had to basically, shame the police into escorting him. so that he could go into an area of the university where he had
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every right to be because of these zombies, these anti semitic left wing nut cases that the president should have been very firm about. and that's why everything in america is in chaos from our border to our campuses. total chaos because we have a weak and we have a feeble president who cannot communicate and refuses to take a strong line on this because he's afraid of people voting against him in november who support these crazy ideas. well, do you give him some credit for the speech this week? he clearly denounced what has crossed the line, saying, listen, we got to have free speech protections. we have a first amendment, he did come out and make stronger remarks than that. but at the same time, we haven't seen that. we know of action by the doj. are you surprised there aren't some civil rights investigations? maybe they've been launched, but certainly not publicly. well, he gave a short speech off of no cards a seven days into this crisis. we should have heard from him from the very beginning . look, these are students from all over the country. think about this. the people who, you know, who's not getting any coverage right now, the kids who paid $80,000 a year to go to these universities, who can't
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take finals, can't use the library, can't go to class, many of whom have dropped out of school. who's fighting for them? joe biden should have spoken about them very early in this process. his failure to address this early on, and to make very clear who side he was on, has just fed this, has just increased this. he should have been very clear and defined himself early on about this, and they're not doing anything about it as far as i can see. i mean, where are the i want to see if they put as much resource and time into investigating this people as they've investigated other people in the last couple of years. well, we know the department of education has launched some investigations. we'll talk about that a little bit later in the show, but i want to get to a couple of other domestic issues with you. the issue of abortion has been a very difficult one for republicans. you seem to be of the mindset that you need to embrace it and try to control the conversation in a better way and actually talk about it, not run from it, democrats, though, feel like it's a it's a great case to make against you. here's the vice president in florida days ago, when the six week ban in florida went into effect.
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since roe was overturned, and every time reproductive freedom has been on the ballot, the people of america voted for freedom. now, the florida supreme court has said an abortion measure can be on the florida ballot there in november. how worried are you about that motivating the base? well what i'm more worried about is that no one ever asked the vice president, kamala harris or any democrat, what restrictions do they support which abortion should not be allowed? they never tell. you should should someone be allowed to do an abortion on the day of birth? so after birth, nine months should should pass the point of viability? what they will never tell you which abortions should not be allowed. okay. they're always demanding to know what exceptions do you support, but they never tell you which restrictions they would support. they are extremists. they believe abortion should be allowed at any time for any reason, basically, and paid for by taxpayers. no one ever asked
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kamala harris that no one ever asked the democrats that so they should. they should be. someone should start asking them what their position is on that. and then we can sort of define and decide, all right, what are the policy options here? i don't i've never viewed abortion as a political issue. i believe it is a moral issue. it is the conflict between two rights, a woman's right to choose and an unborn human being's right to live. and i on the side of life because without life, none of the other rights matter. there's no right to speech. there's no right to vote. there's no right to do anything if you're not alive and we have to have laws that define how we protect human life. but these people will never tell you what the law, what abortion should not be allowed. they are extremists. they are radical extremists. and it is journalistic malpractice for kamala harris to repeatedly be allowed to do interviews and never be asked. kamala harris, what abortions should not be allowed in america? which point is it too far and too bad. never answers that. never. she's an extremist. they're extremists. well, i will say, for the democrats who are willing to come on the show and have we do
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have that conversation with them. and i agree with you. it seems like they also have failed to coalesce around a message for where their limits are in many cases. before you go, though, you're in florida. you're spending time with president trump. everyone says you're on his vp short list, but that there may be a technical glitch with having two people from the same state. when it comes down to an electoral college vote, would you leave the state of florida or change your residency if you were asked to join the ticket? well, first of all, the vice presidential choice for donald trump is going to be made by one person, and that's donald trump. and all this other stuff is just speculation. and i get it. you know, political reporters have to cover political topics. the primary is over. the general is six months away. so they want to speculate on the vp thing. here's the good news. and i saw it this weekend. the amount of talent that we have in the republican party is extraordinary. he doesn't just have a bunch of choices for vp, he has a bunch of choices for a cabinet. he's going to have an extraordinary group of talented people that can serve this country in multiple roles, and that's a decision he's going to have to make. and i would just say, forget leaving me aside for
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a moment. i think that before anyone decides to move from their state, you'd better make sure you move to a state where there's not some da that makes a career. after going after republicans, because what we're seeing all over the country right now is the weaponization of our criminal justice system, not just to go after donald trump, which is now well documented. right. you have a biden supporting judge, a biden prosecutor and the most liberal county in america on ridiculous charges. and the rest of the world is watching that, saying you know, this is the stuff that america used to sanction other countries for doing. okay well, it's happening here in america. but but i think that that's something that we need to be focused on, because i do think that has an impact on people's thinking about getting into politics. okay. so if you do move not to new york, that won't be your choice. we got that. but but if you decide that that's a pretty good it's a pretty good guess on that one. if you decide that you have anything to tell us about that or if you, you know, want to consider your residency elsewhere, let us know. senator. thank you, thank you. all right. joining me now from the house, democratic congressman jim himes, ranking member of the house intel committee. congressman, great to have you with us. i want to start where i did with the senator on what's unfolding in israel. i mean, hamas taking credit for a shelling that has
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caused israeli casualties, closing an aid crossing, was that the whole purpose? i mean, it doesn't sound like they are reliable negotiators or, you know, good faith partners in any of this, trying to get the hostages home. yeah, well, of course they're not good faith negotiators. they're terrorists. right. and you know, they will do whatever they need to do to advance their own interests. now, in any negotiation, particularly a negotiation like this, you know, people have interests even if they are terrorists. and obviously, hamas has an interest in ceasing, at least temporarily, the obliteration of their military capabilities. so, you know, you never you never sound too optimistic about any negotiation in the middle east. but, you know, if we can get whatever it is, a temporary break in the fighting so that the hostages can be released, that's the thing that never gets mentioned here. that i think would be a good step in the right direction. and, shannon, if you'll give me just one minute, you know, i work very closely with marco rubio. we're both on the gang of eight. i don't know that i've ever seen him quite as
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overcaffeinated this morning, but he said that you never asked democrats on the topic of abortion where they should be. baloney. malarkey shannon, as you know, prior to the dobbs decision, the supreme court, democrats and most of america supported the concept of roe v wade. and the concept was that you could have an abortion up to the point of viability, and states could decide, you know, what that was. and so, you know, again, i'm not quite sure if marco just had too much coffee this morning, but i would say the notion that we're extremists on this topic is just madness. but i have asked a number of democrats, because there are multiple states in this country that do allow abortion until a due date. that's factual. and i've asked democrats whether they're okay with that. and many of them have had a very hard time answering that question for me. yeah, but shannon, here's the thing, right. you know, the you know, if an abortion occurs prior to natural birth, it doesn't occur because mom says, oh, i changed my mind. it occurs because there is the rarest, the absolute rarest of medical events that puts the life of the mother in danger or the life of
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the child in danger. you know, to have marco rubio go on national television and say that democrats are extremists that believe you should be able to kill a child on the i mean, frankly, that's what's wrong with our politics. and you know that and i know that, you know, again, those situations where a mother has carried a baby to term and something happens in the last week that is the most horrendous of situations. and if a doctor says you're going to die, if you deliver that, that is the most horrendous and, you know, personal of situations. but it's also vanishing, highly rare. and you know, and i know based on what the people of kansas did and their plebiscite about about abortion, that in this country, most americans believe, as most democrats believe, that you know, this is a decision up to the point of viability that should be made by a woman and her doctor, not by a bunch of guys wearing ties and suits in national legislatures. well, i will say the guttmacher institute, which has been aligned with planned parenthood. so clearly not a pro-life organization, when they document this and say there are actually
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thousands of late term abortions, third term or third trimester abortions every year. and so people do have to have a conversation about the fact that that does happen. yeah, that's right. and again, most of those late abortions are medically related. i mean, if, if, if you're if the idea is that there are women out there who carry a child for seven months and, you know, needless to say, i have not carried a child. but if you've carried a child for 7 or 8 months and the idea is that lots of women then say, oh, guess what, i don't want to do this. that's just not what happens. and okay, i don't i haven't actually looked at the guttmacher numbers. thousands shannon, as you know, this is a country of some 330, 340 million people. so again, all i'm. all i'm saying is that, you know, for marco rubio to say that nobody ever asks people, democrats in particular, where are they on abortion? nonsense. democrats are generally where the american people are, which is where the world was before the dobbs decision that until the point of viability, this is a decision to be made between a woman and her doctor. well we'll
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see, because states are now hammering this out. there is a patchwork that is very, very diverse across this country. but let me get back to the middle east, because i want to make sure that we get you on this. there are a number of senators who are now worried about the fact that the administration seems to be, according to numerous reports, the considering the idea of bringing people here from gaza, a number of senators who are worried about the guardrails on that have written to the president saying this, with more than a third of gazans supporting the hamas militants, we are not confident that your administration can adequately vet this high risk population for terrorist ties and sympathies before admitting them to the us. now this comes on the heels of an inspector general report from dhs saying they really blew it repeatedly with afghan vets. excuse me? vetting afghan refugees, saying this dhs may have admitted or paroled individuals into the us who pose a risk to national security and the safety of local communities. they admit there was a lot of trouble with doing this with the afghan refugees. are you confident you can tell the american people that people coming from gaza will be
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appropriately vetted before they take up residence here? well, what i what i can tell you is that this is not a thing, right? the only way that people can apply for refugee status is if they go where they are, where they are, and begin a very lengthy process of vetting. and then once their vetting and vetted in whatever location, then they are they are further vetted by dhs and the federal government and others, and then they are admitted. and while, you know, a number of republican senators and overcaffeinated florida senators may want to be selling an awful lot of fear right now, i would challenge you to, to come up with examples where refugees who have been vetted have come to this country and committed acts of terrorism. and the reason that's a very hard thing to do is because it hasn't happened. right. so now no process is perfect. but the point is, it's not a thing because there is no capacity in gaza right now to vet people on the ground. and while we will continue to admit refugees from around the world, as is our international legal obligation,
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it is a very strong vetting process. now, i understand lots of people have an interest in painting joe biden as weak and generating a lot of fear. but the reality is it's really, really hard to find examples of vetted refugees who have come to this country and committed an act of terrorism or even a crime. no, no, no, i think it is fair to say that we've covered a number of cases where people have come here on paroles and vettings and have committed crimes. now, you can quibble on the issue of terrorism, but dhs itself says we missed the mark on a lot of afghan refugees, so it's up to them. and we wish them the best. the administration says no announcement on that yet, so we don't even know and have details on a potential program. congressman, we appreciate your time. thank you. thank you. shannon, coming up, we're going to take you live to one of the universities rocked by anti-israel protests and then virginia's attorney general joins us live as protesters accuse virginia state police of going too far on uva's campus, where an encampment was shut down yesterday. your wyndham is waiting when bucket lists need
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spherical objects to play the quiz with balls premieres tuesday, may 28th on fox. elbert hubbard you cannot, you cannot. dozens of protesters interrupting commencement at the university of michigan saturday. they were met with both boos and cheers from the audience, capping off a tumultuous week on college campuses across the nation. fox news national correspondent matt finn is live at nyu with the very latest there. hello, matt. hi, shannon. police dismantled an unlawful encampment at nyu here this week. also at columbia. here in the city. same thing out west at ucla, where the la times right now has a piece questioning of any of the other encampments are now operating off borrowed time. excuse me. i'm not going to be. i will not be in washington square park, new york city. a jewish man was surrounded by pro-palestinian demonstrators until a police officer escorted him away inside columbia
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university police, removing protesters who barricaded themselves in hamilton hall and defied the orders to vacate. video shows the anti-israel protesters initially smashing these glass doors to gain entry into the ivy league school at new york university, nypd cleared an encampment and took 59 people into custody. protesters at the parsons school of design battling with police trying to breach a barrier, andw jersey, was also shut down. i've had been called anti-semitic slurs walking around campus. i'm part of a jewish fraternity in our house, has been egged multiple times. i've watched students walking into kippah be pointed out and laughed at in los angeles, intense moments as officers in riot gear cleared a growing encampment at ucla, where more than 200 people were arrested after a showdown with police. ucla has a student body of 30,000 students, 30,000, and
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at the height of this demonstration, there were several hundred, including large numbers of outsiders who aren't even actually students. so let's keep it in context in some respect that this is not a huge movement. shortly before the ucla camp was cleared, the pro-palestinian encampment was attacked by a masked group of counter-protesters, and at the university of virginia, a large police presence arrives on campus to clear the encampment. after days of unrest and chaos. live here at nyu. it is very calm this morning. it was very calm all day yesterday as well, but it was a much different scene at the university of virginia, where police arrested at least 25 people. shannon matt finn, live in new york. thank you matt. joining me now, virginia attorney general jason miyares, great to have you with us, sir. great to be with you. so we have shown throughout the show happened at uva yesterday. the protesters there say they
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had been singing. they had been reading poems. they had been there for days. and then suddenly yesterday, the scenes that we're watching now on screen, one grad student said it was completely disproportionate. the response of the virginia state police there, governor youngkin has said that you all talked in advance about how to handle these issues and support law enforcement. so your response to those who feel like uva's removal was an overreaction yesterday? i think that's a good pr spin by those on the other side. but the reality is what you had at uva were students that were warned repeatedly. they were violating both the student code of conduct , that it was an unlawful assembly. there was trespassing. there were outsiders that were there. and after repeated warnings, when in fact the university police chief at uva tried to do a wellness check and make sure there weren't weapons, these individuals blocked and surrounded them. they had to retreat. that's when they asked for the state police to intervene. and one thing i want to just stress is virginia is not new york. you have a very
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different governor. you have a very different attorney general, and we're not going to tolerate that. but when we had to send in the virginia state police, it meant unfortunately, they were not dealing with our fentanyl crisis, our human trafficking issues that we have to focus on. they had to deal with these students that instead of acting like adults, he acted like coddled children. they were ignoring repeated. and i mean repeated requests to disassemble. they weren't allowed to do what they were doing, and so they suffered the consequences. but what we've actually seen as well, shannon, in multiple locations and campuses, particularly we saw this at vcu, is we're receiving intelligence that outside agitators are starting to get involved on these campus protests. we saw that they are showing up with pallets of pre-fab wooden barriers. we saw this at vcu. we've seen folks that are not students show up in riot gear with bullhorns, with the direct the protesters on how to flank our officers. we even see them taking water bottles, pouring half of it out, putting bear spray in the water bottles and throwing them at these officers, basically using him as
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chemical agents to try to assault our officers. and so our message is, if you think you can get away with assault and battery of an officer, if you think you can get away with threats of violence and acts of violence against those and law enforcement, i got to tell you, you're going to find out real quickly. virginia is not new york or california, and we're going to hold you accountable. all right. i want to make sure that i ask you about another issue that virginia has been one of the strongest voices on. there are new regulations from the administration on title nine and things doing, you know, to do with investigating sexual assaults on campus, the rights against discrimination, those kinds of things. here is how education secretary miguel cardona described what they want to do with this new regulation. these regulations make crystal clear that everyone can access schools that are safe, welcomed and that respect their rights. no one should face bullying or discrimination just because of who they are or who they love. sadly, this happens all too often. so is virginia going to refuse to comply with this new
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regulation? if so, why? because does it go against the argument that the gop is the party of law and order of respecting institutions, say the executive branch, for example? well, first of all, these regulations don't go into place till august 1st. we've already joined tennessee and several other states to get emergency injunctive relief on this. but this is a classic case of what the biden administration does over and over again. they bypass congress. they totally overinterpret interpret their, mandate or statutory mandate and to interpret in a way it's never been viewed before. this is a radical reinterpretation because they know they can't get this through congress. and i know heritage foundation and others have studied less than 5% of the new laws and regulations americans have to live through every year are actually passed by congress. they're passed by these unelected bodies that try to have a new novel interpretation, to impose a real far left view on americans. and the response to that last quote there. listen, i've met with some of the students that have literally their their women that have shown these biological
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males show up in their locker rooms without warning, that have to not just compete with them. but i talked to one female student, had to find a janitor's closet to change in in a swimming competition. she felt utterly humiliated with no warning. and that's what we want to do. we're going to protect women's sports. i think title nine is a bedrock principle of protecting women's sports and protecting women in the locker room. and i just think the biden administration is a classic case of being so open minded. your brain falls right out. who in their right mind thinks we should have biological males and our women's locker rooms and on our sports teams right now competing against biological women. and so we're good at every chance we get. we're going to stand with our women, and we're going to protect them in our women's sports. and i think this is a matter of common sense not being very common in washington these days. well, to be clear, this title nine change doesn't do with athletics yet, but we are hearing the white house is considering that as well. so we'll track all of these changes. as attorney general, thank you for making time for us. always a pleasure. all right. former president trump back in court. his
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>> the judge is highly conflicted and should not be allowed to be the judge of this clip case. he's trying to make it as salacious as possible... try to hurt trump. it's having the opposite effect. >> shannon: that was former president trump slamming the judge in his criminal trial after finding trump $9000 for violating a gag order that bans him from publicly speaking about witnesses, jurors and families if the remarks are intended to interfere with the case. the third week of the trial concluding with emotional testimony from long-time aid hope hicks. let's speak about it with our sunday group. fox news contributor and former spokesperson... legal commentator and chairman and reuters white house correspondent jeff basin. welcome to all of you. we've heard a lot. new york times describes this as
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talk with... the tearful testimony of a formal confidant in the witness stand. the phrase falsifying business records however, was not uttered to the jury during testimony even once. we're getting a lot of salacious but the final connection they will have to make, they're not making it yet. >> that's what the trial is about. it's about the documentation and reporting. how he reported the payments and where that money went. but right now they are building a case and they are building a in a way that actually on some level is donald trump en. it's like a reality tv show. there painting the story in the picture the way the president did -- allegedly filling in with salacious details. >> shannon: the one person coming up is michael cohen. but headlight from the washington post said one thing
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is clear, nobody liked michael cohen. yet not to the prosecution is building their case on. he has to be the key to this. >> we've seen other legal experts make the argument that michael -- donald trump is taking michael cohen's advice. but democrats in general have been hoping that a number of these trials and legal issues they've brought upon former president donald trump will help them on the campaign trail. a lot of people are paying attention to this trial according to polling but asking the question if it will change their about the majority of people say it will not end a good percentage of people say it will encourage them to vote for president trump so it's not working in their favour. >> shannon: so jonathan turley said no cohen is going to come to the room and said he will make a pitch to the jury... this would be difficult even for a competent and ethical lawyer.
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for cohen it's utter insanity but they're betting on a new york jury looking no further than the identity of the defendants. >> this is a sad situation. our criminal justice system is supposed to target people who violated the law, not target people because of who they are. in this particular case i think the judge has found himself in a very difficult situation. he what's to have a gag order that most about two look at this say is unconstitutional and overly broad. yet he does not want to leave the new york state croak -- criminal justice system. he's confident that the courts are going to go along with what he does but if he abuses the gag order, he runs the risk that it will allow this into federal court. he comes up with thousand -- thousand dollar fines for a billionaire to try to control
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him. it's a sign that even he understands that unlike dc and i like florida, even unlike georgia there is a criminal justice system there where the appellate courts are watching it will enforce the law. that's not what we're seeing. >> shannon: in the order handing down the fines and now waiting on the next set of allegations on the gag order. may seem to hint he would -- they'd be okay with jail time for donald. >> trump if any of us were on trial tweeting and talking the way donald trump was we probably already would have been put in jail. he's been given enormous leniency here because he's a political figure and running for president. katie's right about a lot of the polling. there are a lot of voters particularly in the republican primary who said he's -- if he's convicted of something they would not ultimately vote for him. >> or consider changing there.
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>> vote democrats will tell you this is not the case. they want... i think voters should have the opportunity to have the january 6th case and georgia case that talks about trying to overturn the last election. we want the voters to have that information so this is a complicated case but what's so interesting that it didn't happen, he didn't pay off a porn star -- the question is, that goes to a political question. it reminds voters of the chaos of the trump presidency and the voters of things he was focused on. at the end of the day it may not be criminal but it reminds voters it's the kind of -- do we want to do that again and have four more years of this. >> is that the job of our criminal justice system? >> he's been indicted on over 80 criminal charges in a variety of cases because there was enough evidence to do so.
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>> now it's to the jury. more to come of the witness stand before we get that far. stick around, up next the. >> president joe biden: administration makes moves on marijuana and student loans. will they will back the youth vote? debate after this. so you need a tax-optimized portfolio. ng, our money managers and specialists work together to make sure your portfolio and wealth are managed in a tax-efficient manner. it's what you keep that really matters. why not give your wealth a second look? book your free meeting today at creativeplanning.com. creative planning -- a richer way to wealth.
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and cache in >> i've seen consequences of the outdated laws and benefits of commonsense cannabis regulation at the state level. it's time for congress to follow suit. >> he's obviously pandered for votes. that's the way the democrats do it. this election year you will have to hear all kind of wild ideas from the democrats. >> shannon: so senate democrats, senate majority there talking about democrats moved to reclassify marijuana. this follows just days after they recommending declassify or downgrading it as well. washington post said this. announcing tuesday he was rescheduling marijuana under federal law was the latest and what advisors say is a key political strategy along with issues such as student loan
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relief and issues to unlock votes this paul -- fall. is this just pandering. i don't think so. it may be helpful politically but you hear from biden advisors that he's not getting credit for this. has numbers among young voters are not what they need to be. he's done student loan at some of these issues and is not getting credit for it. able -- think they believe it's good policy because additional research is much easier to do if they reclassify marijuana and we could learn more about it. it's something the democrats wanted to do for a long time and a large majority of americans across the political spectrum, not just democrats support. it's an issue really popular. >> shannon: to your point with trouble with the youth vote a pole said biden is trailing trump by a shocking 11 points among young people. and parts where swing states determined the outcome a suppressed youth vote could be
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devastating. does the pot stuff get the back of the biden training? >> i'm very disappointed at a serious issue like this being handled as merely political. i believe and a self-government system like we have that we do take a lot of the public policy issues to the american people. what we've already witnessed with pot legalization has been an abysmal disaster. the least among us are the ones most likely to be -- for this president to refuse to go to congress and get an up or down vote on this and get everybody on the record the way our founders intended is an example of how he would rather ignore the evidence, use his executive power, put this in place and let the working class suffer.
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the significant consequences of legalization. >> shannon: he's also using executive power with student loan forgiveness. all told the different programs he's doing estimate the cancellation could be up to $1.4 trillion. they say this, most of the student debt cancellation policies have not only been costly but also inflationary targeting admission cost and not financially justified. a lot of young people say it's ... they see the headlines about student loans and that's attractive. >> i think a lot of young people look at what's being offered to them as a little offensive. marijuana legalization and some people like the student loan reallocation, taking many people voluntarily took out i'm putting it onto taxpayers. 63 percent of the country does not have a college degree not to mention multiple degrees. so this is something that the working class has to pay for.
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back to the marijuana legalization and reclassification, the biggest change in 50 years but the white house has a credibility problem. talking about this i'm travelling around as vice president come a harris who put a lot of young people in jail particularly minority young men in jail over this issue and want to use this as an election year determination to try to win over voters. >> shannon: how worried is the white house about that you -- youth vote? >> they're very worried at their -- you see that in the campus protest. there's an effort to dismiss the protests in a way that i think shows defensiveness and they're off course. the president coming out and speaking about the protests this week. there's a reason that all of these are talking about these issues, they have a problem with
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the youth vote and they needed to beat former president trump. >> shannon: a very interesting read about how the protests could go for the benefit of president trump because it shows democratic -- democrats... and republicans are the working party. >> a big shift. >> shannon: okay thank you very much. we'll see you next sunday. the inside scoop on the life of legendary broadcaster barbara walters. how she broke the rules opening up opportunities for other women. fascinating stories and scandals you will not believe, that's next.
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>> shannon: barbara walters legacy lives on about a year and a half after her passing. i stepped -- sat down with usa today to discuss her book rule breaker on the life of barbara walters in this week's sunday special. >> what i thought was so interesting and i found hard to believe among many things in the book was even towards the end she felt like she was always auditioning. that was the idea that she never really made it, she was going to lose her entire career at some
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point even though she had been a groundbreaker and rule breaker in different ways. >> i always felt i didn't belong. this maybe was a way of being accepted. >> she got fame, fortune but never got contentment and never felt like anything was enough and she never stopped competing for big interviews. >> shannon: and she had some of the biggest. we think about monica lewin ski when the world was waiting to find out who this young woman was an you hear the background negotiation on how she got to that ended broke these ratings record that she interviewed world leaders and had controversial relationships with some of them and would not only beat out others but even within her own network would go around people and get interviews. she was cutthroat in some ways. >> with diane sawyer in particular is stuff of legend. barbara walters did more interviews with big newsmakers that anyone had ever done before
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or since. not just presidents and prime ministers but hollywood stars and notorious murderers. she founded all interesting, all of their stories worth telling. >> shannon: i found it interesting this relationship she had, with such a controversial figure. a fascinating bond between those. >> two they met when she was 25. he proposed to her over and over again even though he was a closeted gay men at the time and was helpful to her when her father got in trouble. he got a warrant to kind of disappearing new york. he was famous for his ability to work his connections had when she wanted to adopt a baby he facilitated the private arrangement. she paid him back at the end of his life, one of the few people willing to testify on his behalf. >> shannon: you reference her father and so much i think of understanding someone is about
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knowing where they came from. she had really complicated relationships as many people do with their immediate family. the fact that you grew up in the nightclub scene, that's what her dad was doing. a picture of why she turned out the way she did. >> and why she was so driven. her father attempted suicide when she was 28 years old. at the time she ended her first marriage i did not have a serious job. he tried to commit suicide and she suddenly felt she was going to be responsible for him and her unhappy mother. that's what launched her on the path that made her the figure we all know today as barbara walters. >> shannon: i love that along the way she had so many people in under -- circumstances that would say your not going to do this but she ended up breaking somebody barriers in the process. >> we called her the rule breaker. she ignored the roles and pretended she couldn't see them. at the time a woman could not be
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the coanchor of the morning show. she ploughed ahead and became the first woman coanchor of the today show. the rule was no woman could be the anchor of the evening news, they would never have the kind of authority but she got that too. >> i had the distinction of being with first female network newscaster. but i was a failure. it was a terrible period in my life. it was a very tough time and it's taken a long time before a woman is six -- accepted on the network. >> shannon: i'm thankful for her making the inroads in business. many of us did not have to ask if things were possible because she made them possible. it's a fascinating read and i promise readers will not be able to put it down. congratulations. quick note from my podcast dropping this afternoon as we sat down with matthew west. he has a brand-new book out and
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