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at a donor event last night donald trump took another page out of the authoritarian playbook. i will get the congressman's reaction when he joins me here in studio. later. it is clear that general z is going to be central to this campaign. a professor is here for a conversation about this moment for young people in america. >> my first interaction with some of his senior aides was in november 2016 two days after the election and it is still one of my clearest memories from that point of time. the day he visited the white
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house. he met with president obama in the oval office. well that was happening his son in law took a walk with them around the grounds. the press secretary at the time pointed out in the briefing room that day he brought someone else along to that day.>> the spokeswoman was here. he i had an opportunity to meet her while the president-elect was meeting with president obama. noted that she also had longer meetings with some of the members of the colleagues in the communications team. >> that was the white house communications director at the time. i was one of the people that sat down with hope hicks when she visited with him. out of all the things she could have asked about. it was two days after a shot
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outcome of an election. she had a major question. i to get the president to approve every statement that goes out in his name? so we told her how we did things and if we need a statement to commemorate national pancake day the president does not have to approve it. if it's a more significant one he does and works with us on it and her response was interesting. she said mr. trump will want to approve everything. made clear to me when it comes to all things pr her boss was the definition of a micromanager. fast forward to friday and that is exactly how hope hicks per trade him when she testified against him in a courtroom. we are all just following his lead.
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it is a very big and successful company but is round like a small family business. here is the take away. how could he be aware of the big things? at one point he painted a vivid picture of the panic inside the trump campaign after the infamous access hollywood tape was reviewed in the attempts at damage control that followed. she had a good sense to believe this would be a massive story and that it was going to dominate the news cycle for the next several days and that this was a damaging development. first of all, no kidding. did anyone not recognize this was going to dominate news coverage and be extremely damaging? put that aside. what is even more damaging was her testimony about a
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conversation she had with trump when the stormy daniels went public in 2018. she testified trump told her michael cohen had paid off daniels without his direction or knowledge, but she doubted the cover story. she said i would be out of character for michael. also saying i think mr. trump's opinion was it was better at dealing with it. now said it would have been bad to have the story come up before the election. we do not necessarily know what prompted her to break down in tears as she spoke about her former boss on the stand. we do know her testimony with family. admitted the payoff was related to the campaign and that he knew about the payoff scheme and without having to call her former boss and later she admitted she thought the story you told her that wasn't true. in the words of hope hicks we
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were all just following his lead . joining me now is a senior national political correspondent of the washington post. ton i want to get into pothe hope hicks of it all, but i want to start with you because you sent her testimony was devastating to trump's case. why? >> i think you outlined it very well, which is you really have to think about where is this case going to be at the time of summation? what she gives israel the direct evidence from donald trump's mouth that he was aware of the hush money scheme with respect to stormy daniels. that was a hole in the case until she testified. if you recall there was a lot of talk about how he did not sign the agreement between stormy daniels and essentially michael cohen. there was an issue if he did this on his own and he never knew. basically making it clear of course he knew and she has a
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direct statement as well as the concern there is no way he would not have said that because he would want credit. notably was she didn't say is that donald trump when he learned of this is set what did you do? in fact he said it was in his interest to do that. finally we are going to see this result which is that he reimbursed that and i just want to make it very clear. he is on record in a civil case . this remains in the case as something that is on paper.
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you can really see the end of this coming up fast and furious with the da just closing it out on the actual reimbursement scheme, which is something that cannot really be denied credibly by donald trump steam. >> he kicked off on the legal reason. you know them well and wrote a great piece about hope hicks. you wrote her reemergence at the criminal trial of her former bosses another grim reminder of trump's force field, the seemingly inexorable pole he exerts, intentional or not over nearly everyone who enters his world. also saying since she testified about the january 6th attack she hasn't spoken to him. there is a lot of speculation about this. you know her and the team. why do you think? >> that is right. a little context. the way she ended up on the campaign is she works for the trump organization and knows his children and him and he asks her to be one of the first staff is on the campaign.
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she thinks he is talking about a marketing campaign for one of his golf courses. she occupies this role as almost a daughter and there is a lot of warmth and affection between the two of them. when i was, during the trump white house i was surprised by a lot of links in the media because of these factions within the white house. a lot of people were leaking because they did not like what the president was doing on their agenda or this issue and what she would do when she got upset. she truly came through that she was upset because she thought the stories were hurting mr. trump. both politically and personally, so she really cared about him. so then she testifies before a january 6 court. i do not want to say a full rupture but a cooling of the relationship because my reporting showed his daughter was furious with hope for text
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messages that came up that she had sent saying he is destroying everything we work for. the only job we can get is on a local proud boys chapter. he thought she had gone too far. and talking to people they said there is real warmth and affection and she does not want to be doing this. she is angry and frustrated she is being called again. thinks it's a waste of time and money. with all of that she started crying when i believe she was asked the terms offered you this ticket to this world. they are responsible for your job. i think it was truly an emotional moment because it's incredibly complicated relationship. she did not want to be the or answering those questions. he did not want her to be there this evening. i think it was very uncomfortable for her to answer honestly 10 feet away. >> no question about it. given their history as you just outlined.
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obviously you have argued many cases in front of juries. how does a jury digest someone like hope hicks? it has been laid out she is close to the defendant. she gets emotional on the stand. how do they digest that and what is the goal in that case? >> the first big picture point is just how sordid this trial is. this trial is running through all of trump's greatest hits like access hollywood tape. the stars he paid off. you know why his family does not want to be in the courtroom. you can see trump's defense emerging while the prosecution is building its case, which is they are taking shots at the witnesses and their credibility. they have already been attacking michael cohen before he has even shown up. at the end of the day the really hard question is going to be trump's lawyer took out like a home equity loan on his house and
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paid for this with his own money and then got it reimbursed by trump as a business expense. it was grossed up by trump to avoid taxes and alike. how could that possibly be his own idea with no involvement or knowledge by trump? i think that is really what the jury is going to focus on, and with the hope hicks testimony we saw another possible defense. he knew something about these payments but was worried about protecting the story from coming out to about will have two big problems. he does not. to be worried about her very much throughout his lifetime, and that he really appears according to the testimony to just want the catch and killed
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operation to take it through the election. he was not as worried about anyone else finding about it afterwards when he was president. he just wanted to keep you from the american people. that is where hope hicks was so devastated. testified that when the access hollywood tape came out everything changed and everyone was terrified, so the catch and kill operation was a part of trying to protect the candidate from the public. >> so much we did not know in the moment is what i keep coming back to. this is very consistent with what she said. you described michael cohen as a dog with a pheasant in his mouth, which actually made me laugh. basically the one who wants to show his boss what he did. how compelling and important is that component of the character and how is that link to what you expect his testimony to be like when he takes the stand? >> the jury is going to be asked what possible reason there would be for michael cohen to have kept this to himself. i think there are two answers.
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one is of course he wouldn't because he would want to get credit for this and there is nothing to hide here. only something to make him look good. in fact, you see from hope hicks that donald trump's reaction was thank god he did this because it would have been really bad for us if it came up before the election. she has that statement . technically ending her direct testimony on friday with it was devastating. the second is all of these potshots they refer to that have been taken with respect to michael cohen about his character is something that the da is not going to be hiding from. he is going to say exactly. you think this guy is charitable? everything you are hearing is that he wouldn't be doing this on his own out of the goodness of his heart, so they are going to flip the script on that issue saying everything you have heard about what he is like in person is why he would of course have gotten donald trump to approve, and they are going to be telephone records that showed that michael cohen
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at the time of creating the vehicle used to payback stormy daniels is on phone calls with donald trump. just the same day, so the phone records themselves are going to be i think another piece and another nail in the das coffin that you are going to hear a lot more about as the case closes. >> the trial reconvenes tomorrow morning. everybody read her story. she knows the trump world so well. thank you for joining us. a huge pleasure as always. coming up. the one phrase from one prosecutor in his criminal trial that i cannot stop thinking about. we have reaction to lee, is from the former president at a donor event just last night comparing the biden administration to the secret police. we are just getting started today. we will be right back.
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this week doldrums legal world and political world once again crashed into each other at full speed. in some ways the line between those two worlds has never been more blurry. a defendant one day and a candidate another. and on and on we go. in the midst of this crazy mess we are watching something pretty important to plate out because right now the defendants strategy is showing up a whole lot about the candidate strategy. and also about the state of mind. one of the big issues in this criminal trial is the former president's gag order. earlier he was fired for repeated violations.
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it kept threatening and attacking because to him that is all they have got right now, so he held a second hearing later in the week and something one of the prosecutors said during those arguments really stuck out to me. he said he was creating an air of menace. he is calling his entire system into question. i am the victim here, and there is going to be chaos if i lose. what is so striking to me is that what ever they spoke about this week is what donald trump is trying to create over the
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entire country right now. the defendant was in court this week. time magazine released a set of lengthy interviews with the candidate, and there was basically menace on every page of that interview. we are going to talk about some of the truly alarming things he said about abortion and immigration and a lot of other issues, but there was also a warning sign and that. something that time and time again we say about stuff like this would be glaring fluent news at any other time in political history. during the interview trump was asked about the prospect of political violence around the election. here is what he said. i think we are going to win and if we don't it depends. it always depends on the fairness of an election. not i denounce all political violence. not under no circumstances should there be violence. he said it depends and then in a separate interview this week with the milwaukee journal sentinel he said if everything is honest i would gladly accept the results. if it is not you have to fight for the right of the country. you have to fight for the right of the country? talk about an air of menace. in the trial and campaign there should be real concerned about what he is trying to do around the atmosphere of fear and
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we see this pretty much every week, but there is a lot going on right now. even for those of us who do this for a living. with six months until election day one of the most important things we have to keep our eye on is what exactly donald trump would do if he gets back to the white house.
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luckily he is making it very easy for us. an interview with time magazine he laid it all out the woodwork to deport over 11 million people from the country and use the national guard to do it. letting red states monitor women's pregnancies. and prosecute those who violate abortion bands. he would be willing to fire a u.s. attorney refused to carry out his order to prosecute someone. pardons for every one of his supporters accused of attacking the capital. he was to have his administration with people who back his false claims the election was stolen. at the end of the interview the reporter asked if he understood why americans might take issue with a dictatorship he's promising. his response, i think a lot of people like it. i am not sure about that. what do dictators do to their opponents? the usual the project, which is why yesterday in a private donor event he compared the biden administration. joining
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me now it. let me just start there where i ended because when you hear donald trump. i know we get a little numb to this, but we can't. comparing the biden administration to the gestapo. what is your reaction to that? >> every accusation is a confession essentially. we have never had presidential candidates or much less presidents talk like that about the other party in america. there has been a very strong degree of civility at that level, and so it telegraphs some very dark intentions on his part. >> it is what dictators do, which is so important for people to remember. let's come back to what i ended on to the final summary of this article that was very lengthy. like an 83 minute interview where he said a lot of things. he said about his talk of dictatorship. a lot of people like it. >> he is right about that in the sense that dictators have
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always had their supporters. it does not last long because most people want to lead a life of democracy and security and freedom and self-government, but those kind have always been able to fool some significant part of the population for a certain period of time. the founders of america knew that. alexander hamilton in the first paper warned of demagogues who would whip up a mob frenzy based on negative emotions instead of using government as an instrument for the common good to make things better for people. so at this point americans are forewarned. if you look at the things he is talking about doing. mass roundups and incarceration, and it
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deportations from the country. crackdown on women in red states on abortion. banning them from going from red states to blue state to get reproductive health care. freeing the january 6th hostages who a majority of them pled guilty to violently assaulting our police officers. that is an authoritarian program. that is right out of the playbook of mussolini and beyond. >> no question about it. some still around the country right now. he also said. what strikes me time and time again as we have seen this movie before. you have let investigations into this when he said i think we are going to win, and it depends on the fairness of the election. saying that in response to the question about potential for political violence. >> which is a hallmark of those parties. now with none of the republicans will commit to standby the results of the
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election. they won't even stand by the results of the 2020 election when the 60 different federal and state court decisions rejected every claim of election fraud and corruption that he brought forward and they are still saying it was a stolen election. there is zero evidence of that. you cannot make it morally possible case for it, so they are living in an alternate reality. that is i would works. >> there is still not willing to commit to abiding by the outcome in 2024. there was a little bit of a race out there with a lot of people this morning on sunday morning shows answering versions of this question. i want to put you something tim scott said to get your thoughts. >> will you commit to accepting the election results of 2024? bottom line. >> at the end of the day the 47
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president of the united states will be president donald trump, and i am excited to get back to low inflation and low unemployment. >> yes or no?>> that is my statement. >> it is not a hard question. i think we should acknowledge that is what he wants him to say. wants to be on his vice president list. how concerned should we be about that becoming the common response? >> it is a dramatic departure from american history when all of the major presidential candidates have agreed to abide by the outcome even when there are real questions like in 2000 and bush versus gore vice president gore actually had a lead in the popular vote. there were real questions about what was taking place in florida and yet he stood down the interest of constitutional continuity, and now we have politicians who will not even abide by a certifiably legal
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election outcome because they say donald trump is going to be the 47th president. end of the day. and we know what other kind of events they may have planned for that day. >> was is such an important thing to be clear about. we had been talking a little bit this afternoon about hope hicks's testimony and the significance of that. you remember the committee of course when she testified before . what did you make of the testimony on friday? the significance of it? >> the best way of understanding that trout taking place in new york is it is a part of his determination to essentially predetermine the outcome of the election. not by advancing the program and knocking on doors and campaigning but rather by manipulating public opinion. it was all about paying off hush money to a former mistress
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to keep it out of the news and sweep everything under the rug. but the problem was they were messy in terms of leaving the money trail behind, and he described it as legal expenses when he reimbursed michael cohen for the money that was going to stormy daniels. that made it an illegal campaign expenditure, and they were cooking the books from the standpoint of state law. her testimony reinforced that there was a mad scramble within the trump campaign to deal with the problem of the access hollywood tape and donald trump are bragging about his sexual assaults on women in different places, and so they could not afford to have another one of these outbursts. >> he knew that it was going to be an impact. thank you for your clarity and explaining difficult issues in bringing us all back to what is
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doing as well as his parents at 30. young people have every reason to be enraged and every issue they see they look up and get angry and look at some of them better than them and every day it has been bought in their face that they are failing. that they are not doing as well as everyone around them. we have lost the script. our kids are more anxious, depressed, addicted, and we made a purposeful decision to let this happen by ensuring that people around this table stay wealthy at the cost of young people. >> at the cost of young people. so much of my mother was a family therapist bought this book and said i need to buy the book as well. that was the professor and entrepreneur laying out the economic realities for so many young americans. the last few weeks have shown us there are so many serious issues underscoring that anger including the impact of the war between israel and hamas and the people of gaza and anti- sums of his him on some campuses. no question the state of the economy and economic future remains front and center including for young people. the recent harvard youth poll released last month. they asked about a 2000 americans between the ages of 18 and 29 an open
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ended question about which national issue concerned the most. i was kind of surprised by the outcome because as you can see the economy is the number one issue right now for them. my next guest is not surprised. adjoining now. professor at the school of business and his new book is out now. obviously need to get the onset so you can sign a book for my mom. let me just start. we have seen some disruptions on college commencement even this weekend including at michigan after the campus protests at a place like home be in michigan were broken up a few days ago. they are not monolithic, which they think is important for people to understand. have talked about this a fair amount. describe to me what you think underlies the some of the anger.
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we are seeing anger about what is happening in gaza. what else is missing in your view from the conversation right now? >> good to be with you, and thank you for the kind words at the opening. the cost to buy a house has gone up and interest rates have gone up, so the average mortgage payment for an entry- level home has gone up, so the american dream is not out of the reach of two thirds of americans. in addition college cost have absolutely skyrocketed. we wake up every morning and ask ourselves the same question. how do we increase our compensation while decreasing accountability? we found the ultimate strategy is to create artificial scarcity. no reason harvard needs to sequester 95% of their applicants and let in a freshman class the size or the number of a good starbucks. to be totally sequester housing permits, so the costs have skyrocketed. purchasing power has come down.
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i am not suggesting these are not righteous movements, but it turns everything from a minor abrasion into an opportunistic infection because the atmospherics are i do not have the opportunity you did and i am enraged.>> we have seen these are not monolithic protests. the students and what they feel and their knowledge is not monolithic either. there are some campuses like brown and northwestern who have come to some form of diplomatic resolutions of sorts involving divestment in some cases or commitment to discuss the divestments. is there a lesson or a path of that any university has taken that you think is a good model for others? >> it's a really important point because if you look at the actual numbers to look at
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columbia which was a flashpoint in the number of students arrested or even at the protest is typically less than 1% of the student body. i would argue they have mostly been civil and peaceful, but that is not interesting for media or for tiktok, so it is the unfortunate stuff that gets broadcasted. i was at nyu last weekend and felt pretty normal. people have compared this to 1968. there is not nearly the intensity or the number of people involved in these protests as there were then. i think a lot of jewish people are worried that says greater echoes of 1938 where there seems to be. at my alma mater at ucla i cannot tell you how horrified i was to see thoughtful students or supposedly thoughtful students passing out wristbands and then not allowing anyone without a wristband restricting them from access to different buildings at ucla.
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i would put 40 of that is happening to any other special interest group the response would have been much more swift and harsh, so there is a bit of a misleading perception around how intense these protests are. i think the majority of them have been peaceful, but the scary thing is there a double standard? if i went into any of these universities with a white hood and confederate flag and started to say that i do not think i would ever work in academia again and i think if i incited anything around a disturbance restricting students of any other special interest group to facilities on campus i think they would call in the national guard. i think it is smaller than people think but some of the themes are very disturbing. >> no question. it's important to know there is a population of students who are outraged understandably about what is happening. it is also true if you are screaming from the river to the sea and trying to represent an oppressed body of people you are oppressing another. that is something i think that
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is occurring in some cases. let me ask you about your book. it has talked about important lessons. i love what you say about getting exercise. it is mental-health to me. you wrote about taking risks as an entrepreneur. you also write this that i think is so insightful. everything meaningful in life is about others. the willingness to let them love you. nothing profound is achieved in isolation. i read that as saying there is so much more than wealth. it is defined by a range of things. what do you want people to take away? >> i could have been more successful if i had been a little smarter about making that. similar make investments as a
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young person. you make those investments in other people. checking in. running to them when they are not feeling well. being generous. articulating your emotions. wealth is a four-person project. i think if i made more of those little investments i would have been more successful. the other lesson is that money and financial security is the means. the end is having an absence from anxiety and more time see you can focus on what every study says is the key to happiness, and that is the number of deep and meaningful relationships you have. the end is deep and loving relationships. unfortunately money is a requisite for having an absence from stress so you can focus what is important in your life. money is the ink in your pen. you can make certain chapters burn brighter, but it's not your story. that is deep and meaningful relationships. >> such an important note. not rolling in money at the end of your life. you think about relationships. i appreciate you joining me and
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nonanswer you can already see the horrifying reality on the ground and stayed with stricter restrictions. where it has been entirely left up to them. in texas one woman miscarried in a hospital's lobby restroom. front desk staff refused to check her in. a woman gave birth in a car after an emergency room could not offer an ultrasound. the baby later died. in florida this week there are a number of is a woman who needed care who were rushed to providers before the new six week ban was enacted. and idaho officials have argued despite a federal law that mandates that pregnant women receive stabilizing care and emergency rooms receiving federal funds they may only receive an emergency abortion if it is to save the life of the mother. not to preserve her health. that is what they argue. the state of idaho is arguing against a federal law that
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guarantees a standard of care for pregnant women. a standard of care that they get in these emergency situations. the conservative majority in the supreme court is seriously considering siding with idaho. donald trump seems to be perfectly fine with all of it and even that is supportive of this approach to he said the state laws are working very brilliantly and as we were just discussing we found out this week he would be fine with republican state doing more to restrict reproductive freedoms. in an interview with time magazine when he was asked about state laws that can monitor women's pregnancies he replied i think they might do that and when asked whether he would be comfortable with states prosecuting women who had illegal abortions he said it is irrelevant whether i am comfortable or not. they are going to make those decisions. this morning he reiterated his
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position in a post on truth social saying it is all working. we will never go back to the federal government and our country will soon start uniting on this issue. it is all working? it is not working. for the majority of women because what he is promoting is a cruel patchwork of antiabortion measures where women in a growing number of states are dependent on the whims of the courts in the state legislatures to determine what rates they will have about their own bodies. and says it will never go back to the federal government. he has been noticeably evasive when pressed on the specifics of what he would do on a federal level if he gets reelected. that is worth paying attention to. because the antiabortion movements surrounding trump believe they have an ace up their sleeve. in that same interview he declined to give his position on the right been attempted to be in the abortion drug as well as his view on reviving a federal law. this is important. the act is a dormant 1873 and obscenity law that bans the
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mailing of obscene material and also bans the mailing of materials used for abortion. it has become a core piece of the movements attempted to federally than mailing drugs used for abortion. even more concerning the movement has sought to use this letter as a means to restrict abortion without requiring any action from congress or courts. the fear is that a second trump administration would revive this as a means of restricting abortion nationally without even a vote. trump has been silent on this but his allies have not, and that is pretty telling. project 2025 put together by trump acolytes top organizations calling for a campaign to enforce the criminal prohibitions of the act against providers and distributors of abortion pills. even one of his lawyers who is also the architect of the texas abortion law said that we do not need a federal band when we
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ready for a huge show tomorrow night. donald trump stroh said to resume. former u.s. attorney from the southern district of new york will join me onset and so will be former trump white house press secretary. another quick reminder that my book comes out this tuesday. i will be visiting a lot of different cities on my book tours over the next few weeks for some great conversations with some people you will definitely recognize. we will put all of the information on our social media pages, and i hope to see a lot of you out on the road. in the meantime we will see you tomorrow night at 8:00. stay right where you are because there is much more news coming up on and be msnbc. msnb.

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