good evening and welcome to politics nation. tonight's lead, campus cool down. there is relative calm on the

campus of the university of southern california this afternoon after los angeles police cleared a pro- palestinian encampment this morning. no arrest or violence were reported. tensions have been running high on campuses across the country as administrators have tried to curtail protests ahead of commencement ceremony. several schools have been compelled to alter or even cancel their graduation due to protest. over the last two weeks more than 2,500 people have been arrested. president biden is likely to weigh in on the situation again on tuesday in a speech mocking holocaust remembrance day as he calls on all americans to combat anti-semitism even as many remain deeply divided over u.s. support for israel's war

on hamas. joining me now is congresswoman sydney kamlago. thank you for joining us, congresswoman. we begin tonight with the demonstrations on our college campuses including los angeles. we mentioned the clearing of university of southern california's campus this morning, which was carried out without incident by lapd. what are you hearing about how the situation was handled? many of us, i certainly support the students protest, but say no violence. how are you hearing how it is being handled? >> well thank you for having me on. we certainly have been monitoring the situation at usc, as well as ucla. i will say for a while the information coming out has been murky, distressing, and disjointed. we know for sure is that

campuses should be safe places for students to learn and debate and also exercise freedom of speech. they also have to be spaces that are free from discrimination against race, color, creed, national origin. i certainly cannot speak to the specifics about the every school situation, but i do know at usc, the encampment has dispersed, protests have dwindled as they are preparing for commencement exercises for next week and the university has put up a free speech zone, so that all protesting groups have the same opportunity to express themselves in the same spot. i think that's what is so important about title vi of the civil rights act, which is how you should be even and neutral, and how you allow students to debate, to lawfully and peacefully demonstrate, and to

exchange ideas. >> now you mentioned ucla. we are learning this afternoon that ucla would return to regular operations tomorrow. the new york times analyzed hours of footage from violent clashes last week. they say the video show the count of protesters attacking students in a pro-palestinian encampment for hours using sticks, chemical sprays, and fireworks with little or no police intervention. as of friday, no arrests have been made in connection with the attacks. are you confident that law enforcement is doing enough to deescalate these demonstrations and protect everyone on all sides of the violence? these were the counterprotesters that were against the palestinians that made these attacks? >> well i believe law enforcement should be the last

resort. rules of engagement are incredibly important when you are talking about protests. what the administration should be clear about. what protesters should be clear about. and the student protesters should also be very vocal about outside agitators and those participating in the non- violent student movement. i know that ucla has come under fire about the uneven application of title vi and calling in law enforcement. i know they have just announced they are going go starting up in office, i think public safety or community safety to help address this on a go forward basis. there is also going to be tension between the first amendment and expressing your right to demonstrate and have decent. but at the end of the day, the property must not be vandalized. students should not be violated. so ucla will continue to answer

these questions because the images that we saw were deeply concerning, and there has been information that has come out that has not really answered the questions that many of us have been asking. >> now switching gears, today marks six months until election day. in the presidential race, a new poll from abc of all american adults shows trump heeding biden by two points within the margin of error. however, when you look just at likely voters, the same poll will find biden ahead by four points. what are your thoughts with the election just half a year away? >> well, i would like to remind people that polls are not voters and it is so important that we continue to talk to the voters in our district. and i'm also going to continue to say we have to show the receipts. the biden administration has been, i think, very forceful in carrying out the platform that he ran on in 2020.

he's there to cut child poverty in half. he has given $160 billion in debt forgiveness to over 4.5 million borrowers. just talking about looking at the marijuana schedule i classification. he has pardoned thousands of folks who have been convicted from marijuana possessions. he has been headstrong when it comes to making sure we have a very robust economy. he has been very intentional about making sure we're appointing, you know, a very diverse group of judges to the bench. he has been pleading the way when it comes to climate change. we need to continue to talk about those things because those are things voters of my district care about. >> now the biden campaign team is leaning heavily on abortion as a galvanizing issues that hopes it will drive turnout if november. the ad touts the president as a

defender of reproductive rights. while warning of further restrictions if trump wins in november. now the black women facing disproportionate rate. do you see it working as it is intended to? >> yes, i do. we need to continue to talk about this issue. i represent constituents in california. in los angeles, we continue to see the pressure on our state because one in three women live in a state that has some kind of restriction on abortion care and reproductive care aspect. we are now criminalizing patients, providers, those

trying to help patients seeking out abortion care. and these are values that are being upheld by this speaker. so we have to continue to talk about what is at stake. we started off talking about school campuses and there are a lot of young women that are deciding where they could go to school, based on the abortion ban that is now popping up across the state. over 80% of american voters support access to abortion care. we have to continue to talk about it because if trump is re- elected, we will most likely see a national abortion ban. >> all right, congresswoman sydney kamlager-dove. thank you for being with us tonight. joining me now to continue the conversation, donna edwards, former democratic congresswoman from maryland, and carlos cabello, former congressman from florida. both msnbc political analysts.

donna, yesterday during an rnc donor retreat at mar-a-lago, former president trump compared the biden administration to the gestapo, the nazi police force. he also suggested some democrats use government jobs to gain votes. he gave these remarks in front of hundreds of people and no one spoke up. what's reaction on this? >> i actually think what was being signaled there is from the time magazine piece that was well reported over this last week. certainly some of the tactics that donald trump would employee in a second term are exactly that. women who are pregnant in different states, monitoring them. these kinds of things are only

done in a real license stick because the kind of outrageous and extreme politician would sound that alarm. and that is what the president was doing. >> now carlos, this morning on meet the press, senator tim scott refused to say whether he would hack at the present time the 2024 election results. take a listen. >> reporter: well senator, would you commit to accepting the election results of 2024, bottom line? >> at the end of the day, the 47th president will be the president, donald trump. i'm excited to give low inflation. >> wait, wait, wait, senator, yes or no. will you accept the election results of 2024 no matter who wins? >> that is my statement. >> but just yes or no. will you accept the election

results of 2024? >> i look forward to president trump being the 47th president. >> this comes as nbc news has exclusive reporting that the rnc's lawyer will be stepping down just two months into the job with one thing saying, "he was pushed out," because of past criticism of the theories. are you concerned republicans will walk willingly into another election, falsely contested by trump? maybe even another january 6? >> it was sad to watch senate scott this morning because i know him. he voted to certify the 2020 election. he has rejected donald trump's lies in the past. but guess what? he's auditioning for vice president. so now he has become a different person, and it is a

shame. yes, donald trump demands absolute loyalty. that means there is only one acceptable result for him in the 2024 election. anyone who entertains any possibility will be pushed out as it is a very talented lawyer was pushed out of the rnc. and so this is who donald trump is, and this is the kind of conduct that really turns off the switch voters that republicans need if they are going to win this election. >> donna, what are your thoughts on what you saw tim scott do on meet the press this morning? >> i know tim scott as well. it really saddens me that tim scott along with a long rhett of officials are lining up behind donald trump by denying the election results and not committing to going along with the election results as they

posted in november. so it is really sad these republicans are willing to cross it to themselves in the ability to get a nomination, a nomination as the vice president for donald trump. shame on them. >> donna, let me ask you this on tuesday, president biden will give a speak at a holocaust remembrance ceremony. it comes a week after speaking about the demonstrations over the war on gaza. take a listen. >> there is no place for hate speech or violence of any kind whether it is anti-semitism, islamophobia, or discrimination. there is no place for racism in america. it is all wrong. it's unamerica. >> what does he need to add to

that message on tuesday's speech? >> first of all it's important for the president both to give the speech on anti-semitism because he's right. there is no place, any place in america for that kind of hatred. but i think it is also important for him to draw a real distinction between criticism of the israeli government and the conduct of the war and anti-semitism. because when those things get conflated, then i think everything goes awry. so if the president from his vantage point can be so affirmative in statements against anti-semitism, that he also should draw that line and i think that it will help what's happening on college campuses and to help administration figure out how to deal with both distinguishing hate speech and violent behavior from legitimate protest. >> now carlos, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene has said she plans to force a vote on

house speaker mike johnson this week. but house democrats would vote to save speaker johnson's job. do you believe the vote will happen? and if democrats have to step in, how could this impact the ability to govern as the majority? >> it's a positive development. republicans and democrats have come together to marginalize these republicans. they are extremely selfish, and they have no interest in what the american people need and doing the people's business. so this is a positive development no matter what -- [ inaudible ] we know it's going to fail because house democratic leadership committed to supporting johnson in an effort to marginalize these elements that have done so much

damage to the institution of congress in recent years. >> donna, what do you think about the possibility democrats may have to save the speaker and how does this impact republican's ability to govern going forward as a majority in the house? >> well, i actually agree with carlos here. one of the things, hakeem jeffries says democrats are interested in governing. if that means putting together a coalition of even a majority of democrats with whatever number of republicans can be put together to move the country forward, that is the most important thing. so it is not a matter of saving his job. it's a matter of preserving the ability to govern. >> donna edwards and carlos cabello, thank you both for being with us tonight. this month we're rising up to confront a serious issue

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dove-pesner, director of the religious action center of reform judaism. great to have you with us, rabbi, and to go right to it. president biden has called for restraint on the part of campus protesters, counterprotesters, and police. how has the president handled the unrest in your view? when i say unrest, i'm talking about the non-violent, which has been the overwhelming majority, protesting about what's going on in gaza and then you've had some sitting outside that have been violent. how do you think they sound? >> first of all thank you for talking about these issues, for acknowledging that tomorrow is the day that we remember the six million who were murdered by the nazis. i just pause for a moment to honor their memory and appreciate you for bringing me on the show tonight to talk about anti-semitism and what's happening in our world. and they are leaning into a

motion where they need healing and unity. what we are seeing on campuses is not a lot of healing or unity. as you said, the movements largely are peaceful, and young people lifting up their voices about the humanitarian catastrophe that they are concerned about as they should. and the president in his speech the other day rightly lifted up the importance of the freedom of speech and the freedom to protest. but you and i both know as we have been in protest movement with bad actors, outside groups, folks who weaponize and use these situations to stoke hate, for bigotry, and we have seen anti-semitic and anti- jewish rhetoric, vandalism, and bigotry that is unprecedented in my lifetime. i've got to tell you, i have three daughters all on college campuses across the country. so i'm seeing firsthand the way jewish students, they're afraid to walk across campus. they are afraid of being interrogated about their jude schism, their connection to the

state of israel. no jewish person should have to defend themselves for their existence. we know it's not just about jewish people. no person of any racial background, any ethnic background should ever be bullied, the targeting of bigotry, or should suffer the way these kids are suffering on these campuses. >> and i've said that i disagree with netanyahu and being against him does not make you anti-semitic as you cannot stand up for humanitarian aid and cover it with bigotry. you and i and martin luther king iii marched in washington together with a picture of us on the front line, as ministers, faith leaders, fighting for justice together. last night we had jewish congressman with us. with his reasoning on why he

didn't vote for republican house bill that passed last week codifying anti-semitism into federal law for the first time. i want you to listen to what he said. >> it is a violation of free speech. the bill before us, codified into law one definition that put forth by the international holocaust remembrance and specifically excluded two other definitions. all of these provide examples of things which in context may show anti-semitism. but putting it into law could say under certain circumstances, criticism of israel would be considered anti- semitic. >> what are your thoughts on the congressman's opposition, rabbi? >> first of all i'm a big fan of congressman nadler who took a nuance and thoughtful position. i think it's really important to be clear on when criticism of israel does spill over into not just antijudaism, but anti- semitism and for the jewish

people to live freely in their land. and i appreciate his critique of the bill. what we really need is the bipartisan legislation called the combating anti-semitism act, which is being sponsored by the senator and you've got a democrat from nevada and a republican for oklahoma and they both agree on basically codifying president biden's great task force and anti- semitism into law to make actual tools for how we could collect more data on hate crimes and hate speech. how we can do better educating on anti-semitism and the holocaust, and how we could hold the all-government approach accountable to actually moving the needle on anti-semitism. you've been on this for a long time as you know there are bad actors that are weaponizing the current ones and for their own political gain. we can't mess around in that space that we need to pass things to keep people safe. by the way, i want to be clear we're outraged about the rise

of antisemitim. it was about jews that will not replace us, that it was charlottesville and they would lead to the buffalo supermarket tops with the shooter, right? we are also concerned about antiblack race schism as dr. king taught, it's a threat. >> that's what i hope we all deal with wanting to see fire, those of us protesting for that and the students showing heroism there and when we would talk about netanyahu and i mean jerry nadler and the congressman said you were sitting there tonight and that they said that last night and categorically went after netanyahu. that does not make you anti- semitic. but saying some of the things that have been said is outright hateful. if it was said about blacks, about muslims, i would be saying this. you cannot have a morality that

only works or you only stand up for it when it is yours. now in collaboration between black and jewish leaders on the civil rights will go back a century through the civil rights era and back to the formation of the naacp. i have enjoyed close working relationships with several jewish activists. again, i'll show you the picture including you. but i must acknowledge that they complicated the relationship as a number of black actors and clergy. some who have expressed deep concerns about israel's treatment of palestinians since the war began. what are your thoughts on that, rabbi? >> let me join you in saying we all want this war to end. anybody of good faith wants this to end. we all want humanitarian aid and the violence coming from both sides. and that is an area of shared agreement. i appreciate my brothers and

sisters who are black clergy, advocating for the position they're advocating. i always remind you and your screwers when viewers. 15% of the jewish community is not white. we've got black jews, jews of all hues. i know you know that. as a white jewish man talking to a black christian, i want to remind people there isn't a false binary. it isn't either or. we listen to the voices of black jews who live inside the moment of tension that gaza and israel has kind of brought to the floor. i think what i would plea for is seeing the humanity on both sides. last been hard is the centering of of the humanity, which i share. i also want to lift up the

humanity. it's a barbaric atrocity, and the jewish israelis, palestinians, all suffered and they are continuing to suffer the trauma as they learn more about the sexual assaults and the brutal rapes and torture that took place on the date and they are been taking place in the hostages for those kept in captivity. so we need to have shared humanity and kind of lift up for people. >> i talk to you and i talk to the president and jonathan greenback within 24 hours of the attack. i publicly denounced it. then when i stood up against what is going on in gaza, a lot of people forgot that. i think you can't have two sets of morality that you need to be four innocent people. that we talked about children in gaza and in israel that have been killed and you still have

hostages, not even being discussed. but the president of the university who also presides over their national center for black jewish relations will say that ties between the two groups will need to be repaired after the riffs that have emerged over the war. how does that happen, rabbi? >> well, one thing is being like dr. ford who is a real hero who showed up. she came to a rally on the mall in washington in november to be in allyship with the jewish community, suffering through the terrible wake of the atrocities. and at that gathering, she courageously lifted up the suffering in gaza. so i think one of the things we need to do is to live this kind of shared humanity and empathy and show up for one another. so you know every time they call and they say we're going to do something on mass incarceration or the suppression of voting rights or in another case of brutality that we need rabbis and jewish people to show up. we show up and we want our muslim brothers and sisters to show up. we want israelis, palestinians, that it needs to be a shared

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welcome back to politics nation. in this year's presidential election, latino voters will play a crucial role in deciding the outcome, especially in battleground states like arizona and nevada, with a large latina population. a new pupil shows biden winning 52% of latinos to donald trump's 44%. for four decades, my next guest has spent time as a national advocate for politics. making him a leading voice in engaging the hispanic community, and a solid democratic political strategist. now he's out with his new memoir called "relentless., my story of the latina spirit that

is transforming america." joining me now is someone i call a friend, i call a friend. he's author and long-time activist, louis miranda jr. who is also known as the father of the broadway great len manuel miranda. louis, thank you, thank you for being on with us tonight. before we talk about your new book and i'm anxious to get to that. i want your take on the poll i just mentioned showing latina voters are evenly divided at 52%. meanwhile donald trump is also faking strides with hispanic voters. this goes to show hispanic latino communities are increasingly ideologically in racial diverse in terms of his demographics. for example mexican-americans

in arizona help flip the senate in that state for democrats. and then in 2020, they did that. and cuban americans were stronghold in front of florida for republicans during that election. how should the biden campaign strategically reach out to voters? >> thank you for having me here and talking about latina politics. the fact that most of the polls we could see. they're a sliver of the overall number of people that are spoken to. and that many of the latinos that are spoken to during these calls are english-speaking latinos. we know a large chunk of the latino population speaks spanish and it is communicated to spanish. however, there is no doubt that biden's support in the latino

community has gotten softer we're beginning to develop the campaign as to who is doing what. no doubt that biden really has done a lot for the latino community. what i imagine it's going to happen over the next six months as we will begin to really compare racist trump with everything that biden is doing that latinos will begin to come back into the democratic column. but the mistake that we always talk to those who come from many places, that speak english and spanish, and parts of different generations. we come to talk to them just before elections, and that doesn't work. because we're persuadable voters, not exclusively baseball voters. >> and now louis, let's turn to

the pro-palestinian protest on college campuses across the country. overwhelmingly there's been peaceful protest. but in some cases, there has been some violence resulting in thousands being arrested. now i've gone to jail many times as you know. i went to jail and did three months in jail to protest the navy bomb. and the navy presence there on our puerto rican island where i was sentenced by a federal judge for three months in jail. and you were involved in protesting the next military exercise. what is your advice to these young people to ensure their voices are heard and their messages aren't corrupted by people seeking to create chaos and violence? >> first let me as i have done many times, thank you profoundly for your support to

the puerto rican community when, in fact, you went to jail more than anybody else to support oop session that the navy needed to leave. the fact is many truth can happen, can exist simultaneously. back in 1974 just when i was about to graduate from the university of puerto rico, i lived in front of the university of puerto rico in one of these encampments. at that point fighting against an increase tuition at university. we need to make sure, that what we see in the end will prevail.

we need to make sure that happens. >> i have to ask you what inspired you to put your book out now? what do you hope readers will take away from your inspiring story? >> i think that i began to read right after the 2022 it midterm election. all of these new experts on latino politics indicating latinos were becoming republicans and supporting trump. and many said instead of criticism what others are doing, why don't you put your 45 years of experience in dealing with politics in the latino community? your positions about it and what you would love to see over four and a half decades. so that is what i did. but the thing is that everything that i do, my family is involved. so my family will become the

protagonist or relentless. >> and now the book is relentless. it is out now. your son, how everybody knows your son around the world from hamilton, and he's a great artist in and he told me you don't know when my dad, luis miranda, who helped your presidential campaign when i ran for president in 2004 had me do the jingles for the commercials for the shot for president. and now he's a big star on broadway. i made him tell my kids that story. so give him my love. >> it is. listen, reverend, i figured if this broadway acting thing doesn't work, there is always a future in music jingles for commercials because those are year after year. [ laughter ] so that was like

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it's a beautiful... ...day to fly. wooooo! this week coming, we will see on two occasions the issue of racism, the issue of bigotry, and the issue of unequal treatment. come back to the forefront. on tuesday president biden will go to the holocaust museum and discuss anti-semitism. and i hope he will discuss what is going on in gaza and deal

with the hostages and deal with some parts of being reported or almost in gaza, the children, the women are killed innocently. and challenge netanyahu to challenge challenge. that will use this as an excuse to attack all jews just for being jewish because there's some jewish students that are marching and being a part of the encampment. even though we must denounce violence, we must save those students that are saving up for what is right. on wednesday i will be in canton, ohio, to do the eulogy for frank tyson, where i will have to deal, again, with an unequal application of police conduct, where policemen put their knee on this man's back until he literally died.

heaving a car accident. how many times because, and deal with equal justice and equal penalties. you don't do it in other communities. you cannot keep doing it in ours, otherwise we will not be silent. we'll be right back.

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