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i will see you back here next weekend at 9:00 p.m. eastern. right now it's the sunday show. >> trump 2.0, from his latest unhinged comments that a donor event to his recent interviews where he refuses to accept the 2020 election results. donald trump is revealing the danger he poses if elected again, this time in his own words. maxine waters, robert garcia, and michael fanone join me live with their reaction. the war at home and abroad. police work up a pro- palestinian encampment at the university of southern california. as the reason for the protest, as the israel-hamas war which is a critical point. dennis ross joins me with the latest. is donald trump repairs to return to court tomorrow and

little lol from snl. >> former president trump for the first time in his trial run a message on a yellow post-it note and made an argument. it read simply can't pay you. >> this is the sunday show. day we are exactly 6 months away from election day. the alarm bells over donald trump's unhinged behavior and authoritarian tendencies are ringing louder than ever. yesterday at a closed-door donor retreat before time indicted on any account former president and presumptive nominee for president called the special counsel arranged and an evil fog.

trumka pair the biden administration to the secret police force of nazi germany. we are also getting a clearer picture of what trump plans to do if he wins a second stint in the white house. this time in his own words in new revealing interviews with time magazine and the milwaukee journal sentinel trump laid out his dark vision for the country, one that includes ager cone and approach to immigration. he told time he is willing to build detention camps and deploy u.s. military both of the border and inland. it is part of a massive deportation where he would rely mostly on the national guard to round up and remove undocumented migrants throughout the country. he further added if they were not able to, then i would use other parts of the military. trump won't stop there, donald trump wants to send the

national guard in two cities struggling with crime, even without the request of governors. he also wants to ensure that local officials play by his rules by approving justice department grants only to cities that adopt his preferred policy -- policing methods like stop and frisk. but his tough law and order talks take a turn when it comes to the violent insurrection is january 6th whom he shamefully calls patriots. he double down on his pledge to pardon every rioter who was convicted. here is the thing, trump can only do any of these things if he wins. so what happens if he loses? he is already making it clear he might not accept the results are about peacefully. trump told the milwaukee journal sentinel if everything is honest, i'll gladly accept the results. if it's not, you have to fight for the right of the country.

honest is doing a lot of work there. we know all too well where this kind of chilling talking lee. we have literally seen this movie before on january 6th when a violent mob instigated by trump sore about losing the 2020 presidential election to joe biden, stormed the capital in an attempt to overthrow the result of that free and fair election. we have never seen anything like that. the losing candidate, especially an incumbent president accepting the will of the people. not trump, not the end and that now. trump is telling us exactly what he plans to do win or lose. if past is prologue we should take what trump says seriously. as time magazine points out, every election is billed as a

national turning point. this time that rings true. to supporters, the prospect of trump 2.0 unconstrained and back by discipline movement of true believers offers a revolutionary promise. too much of the rest of the nation and the world, it represents an alarming risk. join me now congressman robert garcia of california, member of the house oversight committee and the homeland security committee and congresswoman maxine waters of california, ranking member of the financial services committee. thank you very much for coming back to the survey show. this is a question for each of you. congressman garcia says you are not at the table i will go to you first. trump told the milwaukee sentinel if everything is honest i would gladly accept the results. if it is not, you have to fight for the right of the country. why should we take this threat seriously? >> because we know the trouble he is in his heart and he has a army of maga extreme far right

in the congress and across the country. his arrangement about hurting people, hurting democracy, sending a mob to overthrow our government, wanting to round up migrants from across the country. we absolutely should take him on his word. we saw the action he executed and tried to do in this last term. a lot of folks can say they didn't know or maybe didn't know what to expect. we cannot say that this time. we know what he is going to do. he must be stopped. >> congresswoman waters, your reaction to trump saying everything is honest and aboveboard he will gladly accept the results. if not ... >> first of all you cannot trust anything that donald trump has to say no matter if he loses he is going to say it was fraud. he still has not accepted what happened in the last

presidential election. we have to be very concerned about a former president of the united states talking about attacking his own country. talking about perhaps a bloodbath. talking about perhaps there is going to be trouble. he said it in so many different ways. we should take him seriously. this man does not believe in the constitution. he wants to be a dictator. this is a dangerous human being. we have to know what our country is going to do to protect us from him. >> i know you can keep going for this whole hour on that. speaking of the constitution, trump says in the time interview that he would not seek to overturn or ignore the constitution's prohibition on a third term. so the american people believe that. do you believe that? >> absolutely not. as i said, you can believe anything that donald trump has

to say. donald trump will do anything and everything that he can possibly get away with. he does not at all support the constitution of the united states of america. this is a man home we had better be careful about. i'm going to ask the justice department and i am going to ask the president to tell us what they are going to do to protect this country against violence if he loses. i want to know about all of those right wing organizations that he is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere and targeting, you know, which communities they are going to attack. we need to know now, given he is telling us there is going to be violence. we need to know what his plan is and how we are going to be protected. >> congressman garcia, one of the things we know, especially from that time magazine profile, it points out there

are four separate entities including the heritage foundation and project 25 working behind the scenes to create a government in waiting complete with trump loyalist and day one plans to uproot whatever guardrails were made against presidential overreach. please explain why this is an hyperbole. this is real. >> this is dangerous. i think what they are preparing to destroy our democracy, the way we have elections in this country. the congresswoman is correct. make no mistake. let's be crystal clear, if donald trump gets re-elected there is no doubt he will try to stay in office beyond his four-year term. he will destroy this country, our democracy, he will change the way we run election, he will attack secretaries of state. he will do everything he can in his power to stay in office. the country we know of today will no longer have. it is sobering. it is scary. we have to take it seriously.

this is a person who we have to take at his word. we have to do everything we can between now and the election to strengthen and support our local election officials. to accidentally department of justice to be prepared and most importantly to re-elect president biden. >> all right, congresswoman waters, in the minute that we have left. donald trump told time he intends to pursue policies that would address what he calls a definite antiwhite feeling in this country. he said it is a feeling that cannot be allowed. given the attacks on affirmative action, the ei initiatives, and the grab bag of grievance critical race theory has become with that reverse racism narrative work with the american people at the ballot box in november? >> one of the things that we better know is we cannot chance that it won't. we know that there are people aligned with him who follow him who are already practicing what

their government is going to be under trump. not only are they planning on a civil war if they have to do that, but he is spelling it out specifically how and what they are going to do and how he is going to get revenge. how he is going to attack his enemies. all of these things. when he talks about race, we know, and i'm going to tell you again today, donald trump is a pure racist. i am worried that the attack is going to be on people of color. >> we are going to have to leave this part of the conversation here. congresswoman maxine waters is sticking around for the hour. congressman robert garcia, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. joining me now to continue this conversation is michael fanone, author of hold the line and one

cops battle. thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. donald trump has repeatedly pledged to pardon january 6th insurrectionist. that could include the man who attacked you with a stun gun. what do you think of that possibility ? >> i think it is sickening. i mean the idea that a president or presidential candidate in the united states of america would align himself with individuals who assaulted police officers, who were simply doing their job like myself on january 6th at the united states capital. >> michael, some are still downplaying what happened on january 6th, including republicans who were there. listen to what senator jb vance said on cnn on wednesday. >> i am extremely skeptical

that mike pence's life was never in danger. i think politics people like to exaggerate things from time to time. >> i think mike pence would disagree. >> a lot of people act like january 6th was the scariest moment of their lives. look, january 6th was a bad day. it was a riot. the idea of the donald trump endanger anyone's lives when he told them to protest peacefully is absurd. >> officer fanone, where he and others continuously trying to rewrite the history of that day? >> because it doesn't serve their own interests and the interests of their political party, the republican party. i mean, listen, i understand how inconvenient it is for people like jb vance and other republicans to admit it was their leader, former president donald trump who inspired and incited an insurrection on

january 6 at the united states capital, in an attempt to subvert democracy and hold onto power. with that being said, that is the reality. this is not a policy debate. this is a debate as to the reality of a day inspired by a republican leader, carried out by his supporters in an act of extreme and brutal violence against police officers. >> officer fanone, when asked in that time magazine interview about the prospect of political violence regarding the outcome of november's election trump said, and i am quoting, it depends. it always depends on the fairness of an election. is that an invitation to his supporters to carry out another january 6th, do you think? >> absolutely. everything in that article was

exactly what i have come to expect from the former president. his statements are in his own self-interest and not what is best for this country. they are sick. you know, the idea that he would refuse to commit to the peaceful transfer of power, one of the most basic fundamental principles of any united states politician in adhering to the u.s. constitution. he refuses to do that. we all know why. in his mind elections are honest if he wins them. they are dishonest or rigged if he loses. 60+ courts in the previous election told us this was an honest and fair election and that donald trump lost. joe biden is our president.

>> with that we are going to leave it there. former d.c. police officer michael fanone, as always thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. >> yes, sir. good to see you. coming up, the latest developments in the negotiations aimed at stopping the israel-hamas war. ambassador dennis ross joins me after the break. plus, donald trump this is a third week of witness testimony in new york. a new york times reporter covering the trial will be here to take us inside the courtroom and the case. don't go anywhere. you are watching the sunday show. sunday show. would come and go, i figured it wasn't a big deal. then i saw my doctor and found out i have afib, and that means there's about a 5 times greater risk of stroke. symptoms like irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain,

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the war between israel and hamas continues to be a flashpoint here at home and abroad. earlier today the lapd and campus police at the university

of southern california cleared a pro-palestinian encampment. no arrests were made. also today more protests at the university of texas at austin. just a reminder, the student protest on college and university campuses are in opposition to the catastrophic war in gaza that has killed more than 35,000 palestinians and displaced more than 2 million, and includes calls for a cease-fire. meanwhile, in the reporting from axios the biden administration stopped a shipment last week of u.s.-made ammunition meant for israel. it is the first time the u.s. has stopped a shipment since the attack by hamas. and the arduous road to a cease- fire deal between israel and hamas remains rocky. the current round of negotiations in cairo wrapped up earlier today with hamas negotiators leaving town to consult with leadership, but not before reiterating its

demand that israel and attacks in gaza in exchange for the release of remaining israeli hostages, something prime minister netanyahu has ruled out. nbc news also confirmed the cia director william burns plans to travel to israel from the qatar capital tomorrow for more hostage and cease-fire negotiations. joining me now is the former ambassador dennis ross, a former middle east envoy and an msnbc foreign affairs analyst. thank you very much for coming back to the sunday show. based on today's reporting what do you think the chances are israel and hamas could still agree to a cease-fire deal? >> i think there is still a possibility. although, all along i have been a little hesitant to get optimistic. part of the reason is ultimately the deal depends upon the leader of hamas in gaza. there is a political leadership

of hamas based largely on gaza. he is the head of the military wing. no one has been a good predictor of what his decisions are likely to be in the very beginning of this. it is unclear to me that he feels it is in his interest to do a deal at this point. i think we are still in a position where lsu makes a decision that it is in his interest, we are lot -- not likely to see one. over the course of the weekend we saw prime minister netanyahu make strong statements about how this is not a deal that is going to provide a permanent cease-fire, because he is also addressing pressure from the right wing of his coalition. two ministers who have basically said they would pull out if you went ahead with the deal on the terms that have been on the table. he is thoroughly trying to suggest that he is not simply going to cave and end the war. i think we have a couple of different kinds of actors here

they do not labor producing a deal right now. i don't entirely count it out. i think it is hard in the end for netanyahu to not accept a deal if in fact one comes around and he is prepared to go for one. >> on that note, ambassador, the new york times has reported israeli officials are considering an agreement with a wish your oversight of the gaza strip with the u.s. in a group of arab countries including egypt and saudi arabia. the israelis would agree in exchange for normalizing relations with saudi arabia. given everything that you just said, one of the prospects of an agreement like that coming together still? >> i think there are several different layers here. the normalization deal with the saudis depends upon there being a palestinian component. the palestinian component that the saudis would find sufficiently credible, they could say that as part of

normalizing with israel and as part of getting the defense treaty with the united states, there is going to be a pathway toward a palestinian state that looks different than anything we've seen before. different than the negotiations that i basically was a part of. i do not know how close we are to something like that. that is one layer. the other layer is arab states like egypt, the united arab emirates, morocco actually coming on the ground in effect to replace the israelis and represent a kind of transitional administration to in a sense manage gaza until you can have a reformed palestinian party take its place after some period of time. that looks like a very ideal outcome. the israeli states leave, there will be a palestinian replacement overtime. you have an alternative to

hamas. it all looks like the kind of pathway you would like to see. i think the problem is twofold. one, the israelis, even people like izancod want to reserve the right to go after the pockets of hamas if they re- emerge. i am not sure there states will accept being in a position where they will be in gaza and the israelis could come in and out. i think that is a question mark. a second is the united arab emirates and we are prepared, but we need to know that we are a bridge to a different teacher. that depends upon the palestinian authorities. we are not seeing anything to demonstrate that yet. >> all right, we are out of time. i cannot have you here and not ask about nbc news reporting, which have confirmed mike johnson and chuck schumer will soon invite prime minister

netanyahu to address a joint session of congress. what do you think is behind the strategy of this kind of move? >> i understood what he spoke in 2015 with the aim and what the purpose was. i would guess the reason they would do such an invitation is to demonstrate there is a strong relationship or support for israel. i guess this is one of those things that we will have to see if it materializes or not. it seems a little strange in the current setting, especially given the issues related to prime minister netanyahu. >> i am glad that i asked. that sort of confirms to me i am not quite understand what is going on with that invitation. as always, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. >> my pleasure. trump on trial. the alleged gag order violations he can still be punished for. another week of witness

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democrats. judge merchan has made it clear he is not playing around. warning trump jail may be a necessary punishment. joining me now is reporter and attorney kate christobek, who was covering the trial for the new york times. thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. prosecutors have said they do not want trump jail for violating the order. why is the judge making the threat? >> i think the timing is very interesting. these four new violations that the judges considering right now actually happened before the decision was issued. in a sense the prosecutors are saying at the point of time trump made these statements, he did not have the judge's decision to help guide him.

i think that is what is leading prosecutors to say we are not at this point seeking jail time. if this behavior continues and we see it going forward jail time could be a possibility and something they would request. >> where do you think we get the judge merchan rule on both remaining four gag order violations? >> i think we can see this as early as tomorrow morning. ultimately it was put in a warning and a happen at the beginning of the day before the jury came into the courtroom. it can happen as early as tomorrow. it will likely happen soon. as of right now the $9000 punishment has been paid, but i think justice merchan likely will send the message that this behavior is unacceptable in his courtroom. >> you were in the courtroom during the hope hicks emotional testimony. how did trump himself react? >> it is interesting to watch. i was in the overflow room, which has an even better view

of trump, a front facing view. he really watched her from the moment she walked into the courtroom, up to the witness stand. he watched the first part of her testimony, he watched her on a monitor in the courtroom. she seemed the most involved and engaged with the proceedings that i have seen him during these two weeks of testimony. he definitely still had the moments which have been said and he he acknowledged where he closes his eyes to listen to the testimony. we certainly saw that in her testimony. one thing i noticed is his eyes were closed at the beginning of the examination. that is when sugar emotional. the moment she broke down on the stands his eyes opened and he watched her on the stand. he notes that she stepped down and he did look at her and not and kind of give a half-mile. we didn't see her then look at

him. >> really quickly, who do you think the prosecution will call to the stand tomorrow? >> we don't yet know who the prosecution will call. this is something we are finding out on the fly. we have seen a pattern of what has happened in the past. we have seen these witnesses who are a part of the inner circle, part of this larger scheme. typically the prosecutors break up the testimony, calling someone like a records custodian who can talk about the authenticity of evidence. that is possibly a pallet cleanser to allow the jury to have some time to recover after what has been a very broad and encompassing testimony. that is likely to happen, but we likely could see some of these other big witnesses even as soon as tomorrow or later in the week. >> all right, kate christobek with the new york times, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. next, it's that time again.

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senator, will you commit to accepting the election results of 2024, bottom line? >> at the end of the day the 47th president of the united states will be president donald trump. >> senator, yes or no, will you accept the election results of 2024 no matter who wins? >> that is my statement. >> that was south carolina senator tim scott dodging

questions about whether or not he will accept the results of the 2024 election. it was worth noting christian asked the question six times and senator scott never gave a straight answer. congresswoman maxine waters is with us along with a former republican strategist, cofounder of the lincoln project and author of the book running against the devil: a plot to save america from trump and democrats from themselves. and a political writer at the los angeles times. thank you all very much. put everybody up so that i can see who is next to me on the screen. okay, rick. you are at the top. your reaction to senator tim scott? >> on the one hand i am totally un-shocked by anything tim scott would do to kids trumps large orange posterior. this is a guy that has shown you he has no integrity, no ability to lead.

he so desperately wants to be donald trump swingman that he is pre-lying about an election that has not happened. i will get it if he was a trump for 2020, he's lying in advance for something that hasn't happened. this is a guy with very low character. probably in terms of asthma with some pretty high on the vp stakes. >> congressman waters, that is what comes to mind for me. he's not going to answer that question in the way he knows that he should because he wants to be vp. if he has demonstrated the roughest time he has been in the senate and since he lost his election that he is nothing to someone that will do whatever trump wants him to do. he is afraid of him. he loves them. i don't know what all of this is all about except to say he

is not his own man and cannot be trusted. he has no courage. we cannot count on him to tell the truth. he will never answer because he is afraid trump won't like it if he says that he wouldn't vote or that he would accept whatever the outcome of the election is. he has no courage. >> i'm going to bring someone else in the conversation who is also reportedly on the shortlist to be vice president and that is north dakota governor doug burgum. here's what he said on state of the union. just listen to what he has to say about what it would mean if donald trump were convicted. watch this. >> let me ask, if donald trump becomes a convicted felon because of this case, will that affect your support for him for president? >> if he becomes a convicted felon in this case that is just a travesty of justice.

as i just said, when you have a business filing era that is for something that again, it is not legal to pay people for nondisclosure agreements. nondisclosure agreements. >> it is a little bit bigger than a business filing era. what is governor burgum up to? >> with both of these cases you have two men they see themselves as running mates. the broader issue you have the republican party which is not a party of trump. if they want to remain in favor in their perspective faith that they break from trump acca causing problems down the line. >> let's talk about somebody else in the vice presidential sweepstakes. we were just in north dakota with governor burgum. let's go to south dakota were governor chris christie -- where kristi noem is catching

all kinds of for something she wrote in her own book. watch our interview on face the nation. >> are you doing this to try to look tough? do you still think you have a shot at being vp? >> number one joe biden stock has attacked 24 secret service people. how many people is enough to be attacked and dangerously hurt before you make a decision on a dog? >> he is not living at the white house. >> that is a question the president should be accountable to. >> you are saying he should be shot? >> rick, this was governor christie no trying to justify puppy, five. >> when she got in the bottom of this whole seated and just keep digging, she ordered high- powered drilling equipment.

this has gone beyond parity. it has gone beyond insanity. the fact that the matter is on friday yet six separate trump sources telling politico the party only needs one crazy person at a time. donald trump will appeal to all of those crazy people. you know, the rest of the things we are finding out in the book are just as absurd. she stared down kim jong un. it never happened. this is a woman who has gotten so caught up in her own bs and cannot stop. she is being empowered to go on television and to live more. it is amazing to watch this flaming train wreck in a clown car mountain. >> i'm so glad you brought up north korea. folks, if you have not seen that part of the interview go on the web and type in -kim jong un. she writes about him in her book and then goes on to say in the same interview with

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okay, there's been a conversation going on. senator bernie sanders started it by saying what is happening with the pro-palestinian demonstrations and encampments that lead to president biden vietnam. listen to him and then the response from the biden campaign. >> i am thinking back. other people are making this reference. that this may be biden's vietnam. lyndon johnson in many respects was a very good president domestically. he brought forth major pieces of legislation. he chose not to run in 68 because of opposition, because of his views on vietnam. >> first of all i think comparing it to vietnam is an over exaggeration. this is a very different circumstance. i think people who live through that difficult time with a this is not compiled -- comparable.

however, that is not to say this is not a very serious matter. >> congresswoman waters, does senator sanders have a point? >> we had better listen to the young people of this country. i worked very hard getting rid of apartheid in south africa. i can recall what they organize, they got on the campuses and they have to move that issue. we cannot ignore them. we cannot ignore bernie sanders. one thing we can say about him, he has been true to his positions. he has understood very well what it means to pay attention to the young people. he's not afraid to speak up. let's not dismiss what he's saying. immigrate, what do you think? >> i think the historical parallel is unmapped. in vietnam there was a natural draft. we lost 58,000 lives. american soldiers fighting on

the ground, there is no such parallel with that in the israel-hamas conflict right now. i think it does a disservice to the people who opposed vietnam in the 60s and to the people who sacrificed their lives in that war to compare a foreign power filing a terrorist group that american troops are not involved in the actual conflict itself. i think that is a little over exaggerated. >> in a couple of minutes that we have left i want to bring up a poll i think y'all know how i feel about polls. this is from abc ipsos. this is within the margin of error, but that is a four-point lead for donald trump -- i'm sorry, for president biden. in 2020 joe biden won by 4.5

percentage points. what do you make of the poll numbers? >> the polling has been going back and forth all year. it's always been very close. we are also very months out. also, when talking about national polls, there find it interesting, that we need to be talking about pennsylvania, about michigan. this race is going to come down to a handful of states. >> congresswoman waters, i would also add we need to be looking at pulling out of florida, out of north carolina, and i haven't written of georgia, well there is a marquee race. no, that's in north carolina. i'm thinking about the crazy republican nominee for governor. what do you make of that latest number? >> i believe that poll is of likely voters. i think when you go to likely voters biden is, you know, i

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