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there's always even a wall on the photos authorities. you don't want to be flying in this kind of weather and we sold the weather as you said, very, very heavy fog. the plane came down to low before the airport and started clipping the tree tops. then it went over and that was just about it's the tragic story indeed off east east when he finds a clearing. thanks for joining us for this program life, it must go just about 9 30 pm with just getting warmed up here. a lot of the big story still to come when we were to the
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the, everybody this is a daily show that is very different because we hold no punches. so look for it. truth bomb number one. us votes, no to statehood for palestine at the un. isn't that was one thing. them wiped off the map, just asking truth from number 2. the number 3 highest ranking official in the us says is decision to give israel more money was biblical biblical. you're going to hear him say it for himself, a trust fund, number 3, to 5 minutes. throw australia cause a lot of musk,
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an arrogant billionaire who thinks he's above the law. what is this all about? we're going to tell you i'm gonna change yes and this is direct impact the . so if you've been watching this show this week, which i'm sure many of you have millions of you. thank you very much. i've been telling you about and bringing you reports and showing you all the videos of some of the demonstrations that have been taking place in the us university campuses. students are defending palestinians. i'm calling for a cease fire in the gaza, for the most part. most are highly critical of the way that israel has acted in uh, what they call a massacre of palestinians. here's some of the, here's some of the demonstrations that we're talking about here. they're the
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so as you look at this, many of these students are being arrested band or told they will no longer be allowed to protest. the reasoning because their words are apparently to mean to hurtful, like the hurting the feelings of too many jews who live in new york. that's actually those are, those are not my words. that is what the mayor of new york actually said yesterday when he decided to prohibit future protests with his decree. so what, what is it about their words that is hateful? apparently a part of it, or a big part of it is saying things like from the river to the state, which is according to the critics of the protesters and us official policy, a signal that israel should not exist. then if you're saying that you're, you know, you're going to far, that's the thinking right, by us officials,
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the state department and all the people who don't want these folks to be protesting in these college campuses. but here's the ironing, here's the iron here, but i just said yesterday a few in the united states, our country took an official position. that seems to say that it's palestine that should be white off the map and maybe not exist. how else would you interpret or describe the u. s. being the only country that voted against the united nations security council resolution. just recognizing palestine as a country with membership at the you and the us voted no. and because it has, you may know this or maybe you don't, but the united states has a very unique position of the un. it has veto power, veto power. that means the us kill the measure and going to happen. yeah. gone, right. think about that. the country that says israel has
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a right to exist and nobody can say otherwise, or else you're a terrorist. if you do is now saying palestine doesn't have a right to exist. and you have to buy the ministrations as it continues to stand for a 2 stage solution to this day. they haven't said so for years, every presidency work for a 2 state solution. but that may say this, that they don't have a right to. how can both things be true? i ask, you know, possible, right, which is why, i mean, you can't say they don't have a right to be a member of the world community in the us and then say, we want a 2 state solution that that's, that's the following. and speaking of the following, what's this? this is a state department b r spokesperson. yesterday he comes across as if he's talking in circles here, as he, as he tries to justify both things at the same time. here it is. how are you guys
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going about? so mat, since october 7th, we have been pretty clear that sustainable peace in the region can only be achieved through a 2 state solution with israel's security guarantee. then it remains are few that the most expeditious path toward statehood uh for the housing in people is through direct negotiations between israel and the palestinian authority with the support of the united states and the other partners who share this goal. we believe this approach can tangibly advance hausten and goals in a meaningful and enduring way. we also have been very clear, consistently that premature actions in new york, even with the best intentions, will not achieve statehood for the house and young people. additionally, as reflected in the report of the admission committee, there was not unanimity among the committee members as to whether the applicant met
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the criteria of membership set forth in article 4 of the un charter. i didn't book reports in 4th grade in mrs shaw's class that were better than that. i mean, watch what the hell is he talking about? did you get that? because if you did, you're certainly smarter than i am. additionally, and then per party. and what i mean, what was, what was even saying, what i mean, what you just saw there is called circumlocution circumlocution talking around in circles and saying absolutely nothing. i mean that's, that's the guy who represents the united states of america. what i mean, how, how can you say that you are for palestine being its own state and then both know to let palestine be its own state or a member of state in this case, but wait, it gets worse. remember this week we reported how the speaker of the house by
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johnson had completely done an about face and broken his promise to not pass a to israel and taiwan and ukraine until we committed to spending money here, especially at the border while we were left with the question of why he would do that. why did he change his mind? how to do this? about phase we reason after i did a little digging that it could be the $9000000.00 that he's gotten and campaign donations that i found in uh, one of the websites that i always check to see which politicians get how much money from home right now and that certainly could be, you know, uh, that certainly could have something to do with it. you know, money always does. but wait, there's more, this is another reason that he may have done it. the one i'm about to share with you and it comes from johnson himself. the 3rd most powerful man in the us. i'm one of the most powerful man in the world right now. just said that he made his
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decision to send america's tax dollars overseas, especially to israel. why? because the bible told him. so israel is a critical ally of ours. and i think most people understand the necessity of this funding, their funding for their very existence. they only stable democracy in the middle east. i mean, of course there's, for those of us who are believers, that the biblical ammunition is staying with israel. we will and, and they will prevail as long as they're there with them. and this is an important, very important symbolic gesture and a very important replenishment of their stock calls, for example, of the iron don't the reason they shut down all those drones and missiles in the last attack by iran is because we assist you with that. i think the american people understand the importance of that. did you catch that? for those of us who are believers, it's a biblical admonition. what does he really just say that foreign policy is based on religious belief, and this is what we accuse the caliber and some of these other extreme
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organizations of are we different in this country? i'm a christian, i believe in whatever it is that you know, i am part as a christian, but wait a minute. when i take a job to represent all the people set about my religion, by the way that does the bible even really say that what he's talking about, where, how i mean as both a christian and a journalist, i immediately started wondering what, what's he talking about? i want to know where this thinking comes from. so we did a little checking in and here's what we have found, mike johnson, for those of you who don't understand where he's coming from on this is i'm on a group of evangelicals in the united states who believe in something called dispensationalism. the word right dispensationalism, if for some reason these folks are dispensationalism, don't think the very same way about jesus as teachings. as do most of the worlds christians interestingly enough, why? well, while most christian see all people who believe in jesus as the people of god,
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the dispensation was thinking is that it includes the israelites and the hebrews, which were the people of god before jesus is coming. i'm not trying to turn this in the sunday school, i'm just trying to explain the differences in thinking here. so bear with me if you could. so, where does that thinking that historic conclusion or dispensation thinking come from? well 200 years ago and zion as it began to grow in europe. many scientists began funding and pushing a new movement in christianity. think about that. zion is pushing a movement in christianity. the promoted to dispensations, one for the christian people and one for the elder chosen people of god, the jews to fast forward to today. and you have the majority of evangelicals in the united states. now believing that god has, in fact 2 covenants, one with christians and one would choose most questions around the world. see this
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as a kind of like a on up ending of historic christian teachings. right? because things changed after jesus was, you know, after jesus is coming and that, that's why we got the new testament. but they're saying no, no, no, don't look at that. they say they're not against by the way, the jewish rates, people who believe in the way that most christians do. they just believe it's a different face. the judaism is a different faith in christianity, but those like mike johnson, who think differently say no is we'll say is tied to and determined by the bible, the christian bible per site. even the new testament, i guess these are the people who are dispensation. let's put another way they are christian zionists, and that is what mike johnson and here's to more so according to his own words, perhaps than his adherence to the united states of america. okay, to discuss all of this,
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i am joined now by jeff helper. he's an israel american professor who has offered multiple books about israel and palestine. maybe we start there, maybe we start where, where mike johnson says what he just said that because he is devil goal and believes in biblical munitions, that is part of the reason, or maybe the main reason that he is choosing to support israel and send them as much money as they seem to want or ask for so that you say what professor? well, i mean that's part of why israel's prevailing over the palestinians. and apparently over the americans as well. you know, this is a war of narrative. and, and the israel, every, every several colonial project like design is mind if you're coming to north america, going to canada to australia, south africa, wherever mix up
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a story about why the land belongs to them. why belongs to us jewels and not the palestinians. and the bible was already made narrative, it wants to get power, but people. busy like or i don't think the only johnson i think biting probably fits into that as well as a religious catholic and it maybe not such a are you the logical way, but certainly that the grew up with that those kinds of values when he says we shared values with israel, i think that's kind of where it's coming from, even though there are no shared values, a genuine way between the united states and israel. and that's how is real wins. and then what we see now, for example, in the protests void along the columbia and old of united states. yeah. you support a palestinian rights have been re narrated as anti semitism. so and the palace getting an issue just completely lost and that's where it is. narrative, it's very powerful. so, but it's when it comes into ways and doesn't it? most of us believe by the way that there is
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a very strong is really lobby that has been able to give a lot of people money so that they can back from. and you know, that's, i guess the american way for gm, the tobacco company and everybody else does, it is real, does it as well. and that's why they're so successful. are you saying this is this mindset, this thinking, this ideological principle that they've apparently been able to get into many christians or evangelical christians, specifically in the american uh, and the american diaspora is just as strong as that other thing that they do? or is it both together that get america to do whatever it is a israel wants as well? i would add a 3rd thing. i think you've got the biblical narrative. and of course these riley's play on that. and there's a racial subtext where white, where europe and we look like you speak english and the arabs. don't me. second of
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all, you what all the money, a pack and lot of money directed towards candidates that are for israel, including yours liberal money going to trump the candidates. but the 3rd issue that i write about in my book war against the people is that israel's become the sub contractor for the united states in terms of protecting and extending americans with gemini and capitalistic germany all over the world. and so israel using the palestinian laboratory and the weapons and the, and technology is the repression based on population control and surveillance, and so on. you know, has become the enforcer of global capitalism. for the united states who's pentagon weapons simply don't to help in terms of repressing population. so that's a 3rd reason why israel's made itself very valuable to in united states. but, but, but here's what's going on right now. i think what we are doing in this country and what i just described moments ago are the you and we said palestine doesn't have
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a right to be a member, which means essentially they don't have a right to be a state. while we're arguing that israel of should never be the there statehood should never come into a question. i mean, it's almost becoming farcical. i mean, it's becoming like a full winnie movie. it's would take us what we're saying and what we're doing and what israel is doing. and i would argue we are hurting the united states of america is credibility, and we are hurting is real. we are hurting israel around the world. people are now looking, it is real, not the way, perhaps i used to see if they're looking it through eyes of we don't like you people, we don't like what you're doing. i think that can help what happened based on what i'm seeing and what most people in the world with 2 eyes are seeing professor you agree, you know, gosh, and i'm going to complicate your life. i don't support the to say that idea the to say the idea, it's simply a part date. we don't have time to get into it. but with
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a tuesday, the idea of you having is really stayed on 85 percent of historic balance. then you're palestinians stuck into a little band to stand like in south africa and 15 percent and then you call the baptist and the states. i'm in favor of an anti colonial strategy from the river to the sea, which israel does disappear or is it your state? but it's replaced by a democratic state of equal rights for all the jews and all the palace, billions living between the river this the plus the rest of the g 's return. that's the real solution. one of the problems is, you know, it's a, it's a dilemma because when you vote for a palestinian state that seems to help the palestinians and that's the way. but you're also locking them into a 2 state solution or any palace, city, and state is going to be a baptist. and so in that sense, you're ready trapping them in a way, in a 2 state solution that isn't good for them. well, as we have to begin to think out of the box towards some anti colonial,
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some that's a fascinating i've never heard a tape like yours and i think it's fascinating and it, and it bears delving into some more. you also said something really fascinating about israel truck or israel being a jewish state. so that's an interesting question and i want to go into that with you as well. so stay right there, jeff helper. brilliant man. we're going to continue the discussion with him when we come back, especially the issue with the mean engineer, who keeps raising and raising and raising he to uses the bible. when he says this, we are a jewish state and must remain a jewish state. and the world must recognizes, as such, puts as the mean, what does that mean and can it work? and is that really democratic? so many questions will be right back the, the same wrong. just don't have to shape
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out the application. and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support, we choose to look so common ground the and the world's largest democracy votes the rest of the planet watches in an emerging multi polar world. india's voice matters, but who will be the power behind it? watches almost 1000000000 people decide and billions more, react, the more expensive, and i'm here to plan with you. whatever you do, you do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different.
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whitelisted of opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please, or do you have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my shell stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you were talking to jeff helper, who has written books about this. once again, the book that people should by, if they want to get a sense of what you describe again, jeff, tell us a title, you call them and you just did call them. i did call them, isaac israel, liberating palestine. hi, jeff howell zionism settlement colonialism in the case for one democratic speak.
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well, you're, it's, it's perfect that you're joining us because i think so many of us have so many questions about this. i mean, for example, you know, israel has been and can be again, a great country and jews in general are some of the coolest people in the world. not to mention some of this smart, straight up, but okay, those 2 things being equal and true. why does is real have to be a jewish only state. most of us don't understand that. if somebody in the united states stood up tomorrow and says, you know, florida is a catholic only stayed most people would say, what are your crazy? yeah, that's what they say. and that's really a lot the best right. and that's where it becomes impossible because you can't. first of all, i can have a jewish state in the country in which the majority population is out to us. and when scientists began, 90 percent of the population wasn't yours. and it's been displaced and thrown out and they're land steak and then we see what's happening and gaza as a part of this genocide. the 2nd reason you kind of have
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a jewish state is because most of the things that george democracy when blinking and bite and talk about that. what does it, what's a white democracy? mean? what does it christian to my, we know, wants to qualify democracy. something's going on, israel is not like united states. israel is an eastern european country, that's where his line is. some came from, think of a or bon hungry. think of putting, think of paul, but that's what he is real as like. mm hm. and so it's taking this really racist f, no national and religious kind of nationalism and, and, and then posted on the palestinians. and so in a jewish state there is little place for mom. she was just like, i'm hungry. there's no place for gypsies, roma drawers, any other minorities as well, certainly migrants. and that's the problem. israel can have a jewish population. i live here, i came from the united states 50 years ago. so obviously i see a link between this country and the jewish people. i'm not a stranger at here,
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but i have to integrate into the existing society, which is a pallet standing majority society. i can come in claimant for my own exclusively take it over and then expect that the world to accept to me is a democratic peace loving country. i don't have a dog genocide on the side that says that the world does not see is real right now . as a peace loving country, and part of the reason they don't see it as real as a peace loving country is because the united states is doing everything possible to make sure is well, it's not a peace loving company. company. countries, right? so, so, so need to, so we're creating there's where we're, we're making this situation where we're making life for average is really living there and is real, more dangerous? i think we're doing the very thing we're trying not to do. am i wrong as well? it's more complex than the time we have, but look, united states doesn't really care about israel. united states care,
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israel's and made itself like i said before, extremely useful for the states is to become a sure go. yeah, united states of middle east were talking about a middle eastern nato with israel saudi arabia and egypt as the pillars of app to protect american interest. because the americans themselves want to retreat when they want to withdrawal from the middle east and pivot the china. huh. and so israel becomes that very important, and you know, uh your drums do once called with america's largest aircraft carrier. so it's, it's arm to the teas, not because the united states allowed israel or because not because of the cares of . israelis died like they don't care of ukrainians, but, but the cause they need israel as a strong military power to protect against chinese and russian. yeah. and, and to protect the western who gemini, so there's a much bigger geo political story that explains america supports besides loving you
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. we will have that discussion because you, jeff helper are, are the like to talk to on this topic. and we will continue this discussion with you, i think many times, but i want to switch to something else that's happening in the world right now. there's a story that we've been following today. it began with a horrible stabbing. i'm not gonna show you the video, but it's out there. it happened in a church in australia. it was caught on video. apparently it was done by a group of really sick kids, 1715 to 17 years old. they're part of this network in australia of all places. that includes a boy who went into a church and stabbed the bishop while he was giving his homily or his sermon in sydney, australia last week with clips of the stabbing were then taken from the churches, services live stream, and they were put on twitter on x and the, and the video cause protests and disturbances and a lot of people are very upset about this. therefore australia to. busy the said, we're going to take it that a well, that made the guy who owns twitter, you on mosque really angry. and he accused the australian government of trying to
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make decisions for the entire world. how dare you take down my video. well, that didn't sit well with australia as prime minister, who now came out this morning and said this about the lawn, busk swell. this guy is showing he's arrogant, sees a 1000000000 a either there in the, you know, the side see, think, sees above astray, involved. this isn't a bad sense of shape. it's about common sense and common decency. and a, the a mosque should show some 30 seconds left in the show. but i was wondering, jeff, if you had an opinion about this whole social media thing that's breaking out all over and it's not really a, you know, my, my thing. but, you know, as look as a professor and as someone who really thinks that critical analysis is really important, you know, it's a problem trying to put everything into a sound bite and i even find on social media, the people on the left. yeah. are beginning to buy into conspiracy theories, so i'm really afraid of it as
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a danger to critical thinking and reading and thinking through issues. and it becomes an easy slogan, the kind of a thing. and i think that's a danger to progressives, and liberals and, and, and left is as well as to everybody else. good point. and that's why we, we need to figure it out. and i'm not sure we have and i think this argument between mosque and the prime minister of australia pointed out, it's been a pleasure talking to mr. helper. i can't wait to get you back. it's a good conversation. thank you, sir. before we go, i want to remind you of our mission here. simple. obviously we, we, we try not to live a little boxes, you know, where people think go, i'm in this box and i have to think this way. no, you don't truths, don't live in boxes. i needed to wait the shows called direct impact and i'm or to interests, and we'll look for you again soon. the
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the what is part of the, the employee would posted isn't the defense you of us and bidding the word? or is it something deep but more complex might be present there? let's stop without cases. let's go products. oh, what else? seemed wrong? just don't you have to shape out the application and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will
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support. we choose to look so common ground the the relief against the old switched from and gaza, who find that loved ones still alive, but the same could not be said for so many. yeah, it's all coming off to a refugee count as bomb by the idea. i told him he says israel must pay the price for it. all right, just go to the one that i was saying he's putting the brakes on bilateral trade vitality thing. tens of thousands of being killed in gaza, dot laurence for risk of school value. and todd, you also to do the same in the trash or as a controversial us day devolved report on schumann writes violations worldwide, which has most certainly prompted claims of apply.

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