the drawers, the hello and welcome to cross dog boards on peter labelle here we discuss them. we'll news. look around the cam run and nature. we're doubling down on ukraine and or anti is really protests on campus as significant. how do they compare with previous spouts of student activism? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals and america. yes, we have martin j. he's an award winning journalist and commentator right general in cross type rules and effect, that means can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with georgian in budapest. there was a pattern here developing george every time the president of france,

a menu of mcgraw's speaks to the economist. he causes a lot of mist yet. okay. um, any shatter is that, that claim that nato is completely lock step human to buy because every time he speaks to the economist, he gets a lot of other nato members, important ones like the u. k, that disagrees with him. so what did he say this time? the 2 major takeaways war, and this is about the introduction of french troops or nato troops. never really clear to me what the translator should make that clear, but he doesn't. um, so nato troops are french troops with inter ukraine, if ukrainian lines were break. well, they are break. okay. the 2nd one is a few cube requests. so i have to read a request for assistance, so i just have to wonder it is must only have his phone disconnected because i think they would have called by now. george, what do you draw from this? we'll talk about david cameron,

who should have disappeared from public life forever. but the fact. so let's talk about the liquor of the price for us city, right. the, the, it's a very head scratching experience. one who and has one been listening to these interviews with back wrong because he expounds at great length without ever really explaining what he means. so he declares that, oh, well he wants these introduction. as you say, it's not clear with his french troops or a native truth. i assume you would like nato chose, but as a backup, just in case he doesn't get the major troops. and he just as french troops. well, because he wants to create strategic ambiguity. so he wants to prove to him to be uncertain, then he is own mind what he wants to do and then he says, and then he just it by his side by side. oh yeah, but um, you know, with the, we've been putting all these limits on what we've done in the past,

but tolkien has no limits on what he does. which of course is complete nonsense because the boot and as shown himself to be extremely limited in his goals in the ukraine. and then he says, as you say, well, if you bring in lines of breaking, would you what, what does he mean by that? and they, by breaking now. so for those, as you say, is this. um, we have as the lensky oscar full of french troops, and he said, but so far he hasn't dos. okay, well, how about tomorrow he's gonna use go to us. what do you, what are you going to do then? so he thinks that he's being very cute, hit the oh, i'm creating some of these. you're going to do it to, you know, go to now there's no wonder what, what i'm going to do. and that's a and that's a good thing for us, but it really isn't. because now he's now set it several times and he's got to be eventually cold up on it. you can't just keep glossy without getting cold up on

your bluff. and so i forget what dates are going to be good and strategic confusion are 2 different things. you know, martin, it's, i think, you know, we've seen enough of hollywood builds. i mean, if you go into a bar and you want to pick a fight, you better not be bluffing. you better be prepared to fight. i think that this is the confusion vision. the chrome is sending out um, not only within the natural world but addressing the russian so it seems like confusion not in beauty to me. yeah, i think um, well, wasn't it not going? so you said a couple of years ago when describing they said that it was brain dead. i think this is really the brain dead narrative now that he's indulging in unlike any the solar spaces needs some of the chops that he has with dr. this of this sort of coal censor done isn't, isn't that, you know, you have to publish what he says if your economy is solely or you used to take out full page. and the story goes in the tell her girlfriend and the front edition in and also longer because he really believes that he is a world leader. he really believes that he is

a little icon and the anglo saxon wisdom weld. and because he isn't. and that's where the problem, you know, and that's why you need to keep doing this because it's an idea that he has that he's a world leader and he has that kind of implants. and what's really going on there, you know, is this really serious? you know, you mentioned them to us. see, i think is a lot of smoke and mirrors here. not really much of it make sense talking about the russians breaking through the printed lines. that would be the training and lines that don't exist because ukrainians took the money from the americans to build this so called motional line, but they didn't actually build it in the end. so what's the, what's the, what's the have, you know, breaking. so you're credited lines below, you know, what? so do you get any, what i've written in my, the totals and i'm of hinted before on the show about these mac chrome polemic. you know, this is that some, this, you know, really about starting up a little bit. and what he really wants to do is skim got a number of a human mistake in particular hungry into thinking that look,

if you don't sign off on the 100000000000 dollar packets that we've got in the pipeline from day. so, you know, new blocks that we're just going to be a mess if a 4 foot west of the lease, if it doesn't go through, if you, if you don't sign off on that, then we can result of this. and you being in the region, you know, you being a, on the boulder, you're going to be really at the, one of the countries. it's going to be a hit, the hardest if we start to go back and say the amount of mess, this is not a mess that should the russians. it's a message to other nato members. yeah, i do show your show. and then george, i mean it's also public opinion that he needs to look like a leader or something like that. and you know, it's still championing his inner boat or par to george. i mean, the billing, i mean i just, i mean they do, they both are small med, i mean that, that works at least in here. okay. let me know. i, i think so. um, but they also, um, here they gave you, peter alluded to it the other day. there is a um,

a desire on the pots of, uh, your ups leaders and that the, all, this includes my crown. but of course the left on the line and use that barrell to crack down on the european freedom of speech as much as possible and generally the freedom in europe. and what better opportunity. here's the then where and the state a rule, and only in a bad way because already said, you know, we are a boy with russia. so there is a, a vested interest among europe that leads to whip up wolf of a to justify you know, the various crackdowns on a social media unfree expression that they already have in the pipelines. i mean, we will about the digital services act, but the e u, as adoptive, they constantly applying pressure against the social media. this is the best opportunity for it. so, um, you know, there is obviously that, that aspect of it. but then the vision micros problem does still you of now said

this over and over again. and that's at some point you're going to be on the hook they gonna have. they use, the zillow industry is going to come to you. and you know, all the, the university policy makers, all the same things like they come to you and say, well, this is the opportunity, you know, we go, we've got a real problem. and i and, and, and this is somebody gives a board also the getting the other day if rusher wins and ukraine, then we are on the switch where you are, if it's under threat of allows that go, it is under threat. we cannot allow russians to when, so you settle this? well, you have pretty much coming up to the brain to saying, well, now we're a more and, and then, then what are you going to do? and you go to sob, mobilizing the country, and you know, that's a new one, it has to be charged. so i like this and the, the, the, the, the okay, you're heading towards the design that has to wonder if prince generals, with even he the call to be honest with you. okay. mine was go to the u. k. david

cameron, the return of the, the walking dead is it were that as part of the secretary, his government took a show lacking and local elections. and he's saying that, you know, of something like, you know, a guaranteed $3000000000.30 pounds a year for ukraine adding per item here. i wonder why they lost those election. so go ahead. you know, when they lost those elections because hardly anybody, even tory supported as conservative, supporters have any confidence in this government to win the next 7 election. you know, we're all basically preparing for a length of victory, which is a disaster. so because i don't think leave the body of the are even the least on the issues that we're concerned about. yeah, i don't see a difference. yeah, i know. so, i mean it's so for david cameron, too. so spouses, you know, it's very difficult to, to, to consider, to think about david cameron without thinking of that terrible article or somebody wrapped about him way at each and a party does something quite basically with

a picks head, but moving away from the house that's such sexual x, i think um, he's really also categor sundays and he knows that in 6 months time is going to be out of a job. so it raises myself. what he said. obviously he's gonna support bite and i'm this idea to the helps you know, the is just put going in the rack or the saying, you know, the idea of friendship. so i'm a trips in ukraine is completely out of the question because that which is spark of world war, but he doesn't come up with any. oh, tons of cloud is still very concrete except the signing of more and more money unless they can us, you don't see a question. i think people are tired of these policies in the u. k, which doesn't make any sense, which doesn't add up a tool via politically internationally or you funds domestically. you know, and i'm, well, i think the question, we should also say it was in the u. k. and into european union and america on we, on the cost of some massive political see change, you know, is there a new generation of politicians now going to be a should in what's happening in the okay. and you mentioned the local elections is

the, it seems to be a period of the little amount. so we're gonna have, i think a lot small independent candidates, you know, and there's nothing, not if a norfolk ality, like joyce got enough all the much on the gallery are able to actually direct media tools to more come themselves now to on your trade in israel. you know something quite size, but it can happen in the next level. i mean this, it brought, i agree with any lease then sentiment. i agree with you, but you know, i'm going to go to george who is the a consummate pessimist here. um uh and even is the promotion for this program on this channel. george repeats the words, we have the tools, they have the tools george they have spent. they basically have all the cards and the deck, social media, censorship, shutting down ben use um. there was a, a very famous um uh, i mean with um, some kind of palestinian surgeon that is, you know, just basically been made for signing on, brought over to atlanta. we met to france and then they told him you can speak and then they put him on the late slide. they put him on an early what they did,

and it's really nasty. these people are really nasty and they want to show their power in attempt intimidation. and violence is their strongest, but the last card to play that absolutely. right. and then the other day i, i saw a story. oh, some german politician has been attacked physically. it died so you know, but like it was a green one. was a green ball at this level, a social democrat bought it immediately. german media, all this as the other in a different deutschland support us behind it. we've been waiting for this bobby to be as bad a job and a, or whether it is it because the pro russian is it because they're a threat to the mugs? is it because the against the they, the guy's name addresses it because they've pro nazi but it's keeps coming. and so i think that's, that's how you deal with the, the opposition to just the use of, of being against them obviously. but on the go back to breaking the kiss, some of those without that not door to be a bit of a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to

the show room. just don't safe house to come after kids and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look so common ground the on the on the see the silver. so the, somebody how can it be that um the ship to the middle east from a country whose top officials constantly complain about shortages of munitions and military equipments. destroyed locating the booth but of boston low cream and maybe elbow in your system and below grade level nominal facility or some of those other

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your answering the 1st part of the program about descent and the tools of the state . the bill. yes, everyone. you have to just. i'm a little with that question before the end of the be prime minister. not only can we not expect any change when it comes to a foreign policy, it's the u. k. uh, it's quite likely that it will mean the uh, the fact the re emergence of tony blair and tony blair is, yeah, okay, absolutely. front and center with the, with global is, uh, with the a obviously the you, the leaders and, you know, easily uh, begins eventually as the backs along. so i mean, is it still you do, i think is quite likely that'll be re living the glory days of the late ninety's in the early as of as a century. so it is, this kind of intervention is um and mentality will continue. now the question is, what, how,

how does the public respond to that? but now we're, so we've seen in the u. k, the saint frances in the united states, there is real, real protest. and what's different about these protest um, as opposed to the uh, fraudulent bogus protest of 2020, of the summer of george floyd. it is that these protests are about something, there is a, there are there against them. each dimension on, on behalf of israel, they're against, there's an unconditional support for the, for risk atrocities. and that demanding that the, the institutions distance themselves divest from israel. that's something says it, that's not something a against the seduce lies. why braces of, you know, i, i'm, i'm against the police, you know, but just as nonsense a complete just it would be pointless. self indulgence. so if you've got a, i'm

a move, but that is about something. well, that's going to be quite interesting to see what it was then that's gonna work blood pressure on the, on governments, and may lead to some sort shape. it's interesting to me, it would be martin if you look at the, the student protests across the western world. i mean, like i, you know, obviously it's the issue of a, israel's, a genocidal acts against the palestinians. and gods isn't blake. but i think, you know, in a broader sense, and it's something that we've talked many times and this part of them about is this is turning into just an anti establishment movement. because particularly when it was the young people of their, their avenues to move forward are very, very limited. and then you start taking, take talk away from them and things like that. and you know that in there's the american context of the 1st amendment. but i think if we look at the, the, the student movements all across the world, it is anti establishment and it's got legs because george's right, this is about something, go ahead ma'am. yeah, i mean, students, by definition the, the young, an inquiry on the forming personalities themselves are developing and they tend to

look for causes, you know, and you know, whether you have what you'll meet people in those 2 is big enough on dos or whether, you know, you're fighting for well peace. i think the power, those are interesting to what happened 60 years ago. if we look at barclay and columbia, how the student purchase actually made an impact. they were identified today by the 2nd what x was as really well began with the same end of the wedge. was this done some questioning? and i'm actually holding this 1000 into the account actually did finding the results in america putting into vietnam, typically competitive thing that we will do it slight different situation in the, in those lives, in the sixty's, you're gonna federal press 0 to really independent, strong group of general, see the salt it was the jew, it seems to be able to establish minutes reports on the bench going papers and i know i'm such for these days. i think the students took a more pressure on them, the biggest boy on them to make

a difference because they know that was getting reported by it, by, by the legacy of media is not the truth. and you know, so i think that's a real danger. the, for the leads that these, these movements could really mushroom, into something, you know, be like, could be the only location the only place you go to, to get any kind of a sub, a comma tree about what's going on and is relevant in america's role. that, you know, it could be the last bastion, basically a free space. so we, it was just based, very closely, i think, between now and, and the new term starts. and, you know, it could be very interesting to see how big these protests move us. um, you know, yeah we, we do see the establishment george fighting back. this ridiculous bill that's going through call was now is already been passed by the house going to the senate with agents. i mean, i, and i mean we, we, you know, the member of the patriot act, we are all thought this is the, the calendar, the 1st amendment and 4th amendment. you know, i mean, this is all, this is on steroids right now. i mean, you and i have talked about this a going like me, it's absurd,

which is in that bill. it's absolutely absurd. and this is something that will be if it's a bed, it's directed it educational institutions. but when you put something on the books like this, it gets very elastic and just going back to the 1st part of the program, the, the, the, the powers that be have they need norm as a re tools, okay? it can take you out of the banking system like they did to the canadian truckers, i mean yes, there is a difference between that, you know, in the sixty's, you know, they would be a men wanted to avoid the drive. they didn't want to go to vietnam, that's the draft is not the issue right now, but i would say the threats against the dissent are far greater now than an ever was the 19 succeed storage way. i agree completely, and that's why i such a little wind to succeed, you would need really to mobilize them as, as many of the opponents of the powers that be of the stablish worth as you can. but what is much really within the last couple of weeks is that the populace,

right, which i think could easily make common cause with the, with the students with the protesters because they themselves have been subjected to attacking the populace. right? would were opposed to lowering your brain for a post of comes at a post of the deep stage of a post. the correct downs on free speech could easily make common cause with, with that. because even if they can, they don't necessarily agree with the view in the middle east still say, well yeah, but, you know, there are against basically intervention is i'm getting into the stupid wars and so on. but instead, they are now align themselves with the, the political establishment with the forces of the paintings, again with us really. and then, you know, as a drunk, who you know, who good easily i've just said yeah because you know, i, i why sympathy is with them is that's it. yeah, yeah, that's up cracking head. so let's, let's go in the police. you know, why, why is the these university presidents not cold in the police earlier and that,

and that means that it is essentially they, they walked into a trap where you can just simply pick people up. you're just call them fascist a one day it's trumpet is a boat as or fascist. and then that makes the protest as of the universe, the campus of passers every day. there are deal fighting against the fascist and i think that's how you get to pick off the opposition. so thing was a great opportunity was miss in kind of in, in full, full make some kind of an alliance. yeah. but martin, they the, it's, it's really quite pathetic to watch because you see this unbridled use of force against primarily civilians and gaza. and then, and then the plethora videos of young people, the being attacked by the police. particularly that's the situation that new c l a, which apparently looked like vigilantes allowed onto the campus here. i mean, that's the one thing they had, you know, we could look at protests and we can look at for the various but the powers that be,

have their unrestrained and using violence, they're the ones using violence. i'm just going to continue. unfortunately, you know, i mean the oil way. i carmen with the university in america. you might remind me in the sixty's where police actually have inside with the live rounds. hey i'm, it's almost exactly what the animal will university i think. i mean, yeah, exactly. it is 54 years ago. yeah. so we're looking at this whole cycle now. is that going to be the thing that, i mean, i think what you mentioned earlier about the crack down free speech and how these countries develop into basically freshest regimes. where you know that, like china or like any of these companies that we look down on the last study is, you know, we've become like that now. and so free speech is going to be the real thing which is going to be around me just completely. i'm wondering, was a, you know, the, the, the student protests going to be the perfect, the almost a gift wrapped. um, i guess the thing that the, the needs will shine a spotlight on

a plane for everything. they'll be the escape codes. you know, and i think i can mix, i'm expecting, or date of other fake news of the full flag attacks. you know, it is quite easy to stage demonstrations. you are, if you want to mumps, feel if you have the most dizzy that and heats and whether they be right with methods or whatever. i can see with this in the future. and i think the, i'm wondering with the student protests, what will be that there will be the though that what they've been waiting for, you know, really something they can use. the manufacture mole, fake news. and of course, the great destruction statements for the, you know, in this age of canceling, that means, so would georgia of a, particularly in the case of the united states american youth will be canceled, and that'll be the direction for it. okay. i mean, these, you know, you, we criticize these the leads through the, till the cows come home. but you, you never can do that, that they don't think big george. exactly. and when you look at these universities, they're in the business of raising money. and for them,

do you think they've got math is, is, you know, who's got the big box and they look at the students and they don't know, big bucks. so that's the area that the exact does then that. so, you know, if it's bounds, you know, what do i keep, blackman happy holy the, but the politicians on capitol hill have it, or do i keep the students up? it is low contests. the goal in the, the cost interesting. but what you said, be the, the u c l a because that was the vigilant is it was a very well stage of occasion. and as a new york times reveal the other day that one of the finance is all of this vigilante group of the us. c l. a. was jerry seinfeld, wife. um. so did you go to get the celebrity active as of now, the owners, the whole, the side of the tracking down those students because they knew exactly what they were doing. they were going to cause violence, which then trigger is a police response. and so now you have this lady, so this deliberate is themselves,

you know, suddenly discovering the jewishness these opposite and multi 1000000000 as well, you know, they've done made, do these stupid jokes of stupid said comes over the years. oh that list. so jewish, they, they, they have to do what they can for israel. so they, you know, no, definitely there my answer, correct. i know the one with their identity is, but they're very, very rich and really rich and get what they want. martin, it's a we have to point out to our viewers that, that southern california is a little crude, occupied territory. a lot of people don't know that, but they, they, they, they, it's very strong that they look good at influencer. alas, 20 seconds go to you. martin, go ahead. yeah, i say on the student process thing on the other thing that i found are interesting is that how and number of universe to campus is now have struck deals with the students. you know, a one has agreed that the american un secretary did the you and the bus at the doesn't speak of the conference that she was supposed to speak a long as a crate. offered narrow cultural center as okay. ok. maybe i'll get the money is on

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