well, let's talk eve, where they set buses on fire, killing all the civilians inside of them. that, of course, the nets, carpet bombing it from the sky, drop in phosphorus, these kind of things, well, why seen and videos were plentiful? you know, that i originally started the idea in my head the. something's wrong. yeah. i got to stop it, a go to help. then of course the idea in my head was i was compressed in this simply because my tax money was going towards the arms, which will give them to these a binder eyes and these flashes. so i couldn't sit there, can sit there and take it, and then of course, seeing the testimony of, of the family and the friends of these victims, you know, crying and breaking down and seeing the houses and hope was destroyed and a burg my how. so that's why i decided to call them i couldn't take it in the you know that this is basically it for me. at what point did you decide that you,

you need to come, you need to participate to take part in this uh, 2022. so it was, it was some time before i decided because of course the idea is these crazy, right? so it took me awhile to come to terms with the idea of that's what i wanted to do, but 2022. when the russian involvement happened. and then of course, the escalated beyond people's comprehension was the last one. i decided that i was actually going to do it and i started planning and preparing to come over and fight for the calls. have you ever had any doubts about whether you took the right decisions? no, not. so. soon as i landed, i mean, i had nothing but i mean, the russian people in general of welcome me. i've had nothing but good experiences and that you may use now and again, you missed the family,

you missed home. and sometimes maybe those kind of those concrete pin, but actual doubts with me actually doing this. fighting for the dumbass or russia for russians. no to 0 though. and i sacrifice the lot by coming over here. but i will do what over again tomorrow. 10 times over, you know, in your opinion, what do you think uh, you've come over as a volunteer. what do you think is the difference between a volunteer and the mercenaries that come over for the you create insight? money? simply. i had no idea of, of the concept of somebody i volunteered to me was, i was voluntary. money didn't come in. so it ends, if money would come in to out of state home and earn more money, you know, it was the, the, i do, the simple simple explanation is ideological for volunteer on the russian. sorry, listen, that's my experience of coming across of, of orleans is where as you go to the great inside that, that paid celia amounts of money and is obvious that the, for the money that the,

for the adventure of it. and that, that because some of the psychopaths and the like killing cause in that that's my understanding of them. i don't seem to get that from the volunteers on the, on the russian side from the west. now the british government has been talking about you and others come over as traders to the rich government. what do you think of what they're saying? as far as labeling people like yourself? traders was, is a, is a deliberate tactic. that's for sure. traits, a woods, assume the are the fights and against my own country, which officially and technically, i know it's because ritz and russia adults, it was released officially, any way i don't know is it deliver employee? i think they want to destroy my reputation. they want to destroy the idea,

the bridge is citizen coming over to russia. so volunteer. i just think is a load of rubbish. and i think the carts assassination of me in the presses to maybe stop of citizens of having this similar, well the same way they have to come over and do the same thing, which there is people that do want to do. i know that because i've spoken to people, you know, isn't of a tactic of that is anyone, fine for rusher is going to be a criminal, a drug addicts, and alcoholics for us. you see what they did. so julie inside is just simply for reporting the truth and they live in a sex offender, right. even though he's clearly innocent. so i wasn't above the per se, but he's more when they start doing this kind of character assassination, or the psychopaths spot coming out of the woodwork for the difference. if i move i difference, friends of i the for us personally is or is like i was that's back from me. but what kind of mentality is uh, did you run into as far as people in the u. k. before you came over here

for their product of the education system that's for sure. the past 10 years or so . the west has just been in bach and on a very busy course of events. it's ok breaking down the traditional families that doesn't exist anymore. hardly any one, i know that parents and that were on that together. mothers of go free for kids of free for different 5 as of that's kind of and then the o g, b, t q at traditional family values, conservative values which most people would consider normal and the same breakdown of that. so these kind of like society is di and is this becoming the most just the general say, you know, i see that happening. um, so yeah, the last 10 years of open goodwill. and you can, you can really see it in real time. so that's kind of, is that what mean by

a question? yes, that, that then as far as this conflict, the people actually understand anything with the conflict that didn't have enough knowledge to understand anything about the conflict. was that most people are so busy and their lives were, can survive effectively. they just watch what they see on tv. read what they read in newspapers. so no, i would say overall 90 percent of people buying counted in the u. k. in terms of this situation in the past, you know, well between russia and ukraine, the eva per year crane in for very, the russian is a very nice. so that's kind of what i've encountered. and i don't think is that anything is going to get that's or anytime soon. but then of course you do have that 10 percent which see the reality of what's going on. have you been able to change anybody's mind? do you think it will be able to change anybody's mind as cognitive dissonance? so absolutely, no, i can think of one example was minus to change anyone's mind on the if any think

you saw showing them facts the slide show and then videos. they go into complete denial, and if anything cassie property hobbins, the original opinion on being per ukrainian and i'm the russian. so now i've not been able to change anyone's mind. so can anyone this kind of a political and they still kind of side with the bar ukrainian calls because of what they see on the tv in the newspapers. but as i said, there is at 10 percent like me, which see what's going on. see the, the evil of demonic forces that play in the west. and, you know, as a result, they do support russia but very few and far between. because if you, if you actively and openly support russia in, in the last name brisson, you can lose your job. you know. and then of course, you've also got a journalist, british journalist, when, as i said, were full. what happened is,

this happened in ukraine. they simply told the truth, they have the houses sees, bank account sees the keys to be in the pro, boots in stages. so you can't win. you know, that make it live very uncomfortable. if you side with russia or you at least try and expose the truth of what's going on, there's also the, the u. k 4. and listen to that. there's been talk for several of the british politicians about using that to arrest. you would the out to say of as, as far as what i think it was uh the, the, the colonel co richard ken. right. right. both about that in the press. i mean, the one thing i would say to him directly is, i think he needs to worry about the will crime. so he's committed in iraq and afghanistan rather than trying to go my case about the situation. but in terms of that far, and at least when i asked my understanding is if i go abroad and then join the army

of a nation at war against the peaceful nation, the crane, which we all know is a load of rubbish. not technically makes me a terrorist, and that's like, the technically makes me a little criminal. so if i were to go back home, i'm under no illusion i'd, i'd be arrested, not say so a long time in jail for now when you came over here, what kind of attitudes did you run into? what people see somebody coming from the u. k. to join the russian side in russian . i think uh originally, especially when uh, for instance, when i went to shelves, i'm a recruitment sense. so i, one of the offices will ask that me, when i purchased my, uh, brace passport and it wasn't, you know, i don't mean a laugh is in. he was laughing at me, want him to fight for the rest. i think he just couldn't believe or comprehend in his mind that someone from britson have come over to fight for them. so i think uh, in some ways is almost like a circus attraction. but then when they realized serious and the actually on my

nasa, the reasons the russians are fight him. i think he, the there is respect that i don't think i haven't met too much. maybe a little bit of suspicion because of the british nationality, but then quite quickly, once you get to know these people and they get to know you and they know you left for the right reasons, the russians are the most welcoming and hot woman people. there is, you know, especially in the army, the comrades, you know, i'm a separate russian engineer. so 90 percent of the work we do is reconstruction will conjunction with that that there's 10 percent of us being on the on, on the front lines kremlin. i have in one i remember when we originally called the crab and i a in the back of the cameras and you can able to buttons going off for the auxilary and, and that was quite hairy because that was the 1st. that was the 2nd time. well, you know, you sometimes you question the most highly because of the problems are going off

and these are tailored shells going off for a minute. then then not far. you can feel the vibrations go free about a free a chest. and sometimes you can leave you breathless. but the, the one time which was very space. scary i'm, i'm, i'm not gonna lie. i'm not used to this. i said, i'm just a simple civilian was the 1st and the 2nd night the i go into the dumbass account came on to fire and we had to evacuate that. that's how close they were. so those situations make you question your own mortality, you know, sometimes will tell us if there was one p less than that, you could take away from your experience since you've gotten what would add one pos and be the most difficult question. sort of up with you on the spot i, i, i don't know if it's, if it's the lesson per se, but is finally been able to stand on my own c. c and be independent thinking

impacts and wise in terms of i'm able to forge my impasse in life, which in the u. k. i never felt i could as language when a barrier for you. uh, coming from august which is a uh most i speak only english, they don't learn a secondary language. is that much? uh, we do the speak russian when you got here or how's devolution been? uh, as far as communication my, my russian is, is very small. i'm trying to learn the language, i just find it very hard to retain it and my head is an ongoing process. i wish that i could be faster in learning the language, but we kind of make it work is, is sometimes it can be challenging initially it was but then of course you find a way so it was pigeon english pigeon, russian sign language. you kind of things, they work out quite quickly and then of course he will spend and all of his time would you call me as you can find the common language,

there is one thing you could have changed in this whole trip. this whole process that you've gone through photos and i don't think there's anything i would change simply because that it would all of my experience. you know, i haven't had many negative experiences here. this maybe, maybe the one thing that i could change is that there's been times where the date can be low late, you know, especially with a language barrier naturally. and you may be excluded from half the conversation with people generally if you don't speak russian to, that's maybe the negative experience, but maybe that as well as you know, you miss you missed home comforts, you know, friends, family, that's probably the only thing that's really both of may and times, you know, now it's no secret that ukraine is in the retreat. and then we're moving forward up and down the front and ukraine's desperately trying to move lice people and get more people the front lines. do you think of the, at some point, nato nato troops are going to come in and fight for ukraine?

or i think it's pretty clear. the nato troops already the the term sheet that comes to mind. you know, when that pulled out of the me with the intelligence i'm over. so if they're of a cool, there's pros with an i ability for them. but as, as you well know as well, the journal as well. no, that's tens of thousands, oppose. you probably got thousands of americans for the hundreds of british, and then of course you use go over the train as an instructors over the end of the guys of, of the training. so that already the, if you talk in the unofficial war or i will, i don't think it would happen. and i think i see in the next proxy would probably be poland. so i think if you're going to have an issue with, with nato i, i, i think they would use pola next rather than going head to head with russia because they couldn't win. what do you have to say for any other guys that are thinking about coming over, fight for that you create inside simply open your eyes for one of the evidence is

there. if you want to see it. i mean, if you want to go 5 for ukraine and then they've gone home in a wooden box based on law vision audiology. so i would uh recommend they wouldn't do such a thing, but of course they've got their reminds and they're going to do what they're going to do. but what, what have you noticed over the last couple months as far as and being on the ground moving uh with the front lines. so with the conditions of moving forward, as far as i can see, in terms of other than the one incident that i told you about where we had to evacuate the kind of boughs that was already have the temporarily temporarily. and then of course the russians and pushed back. so now and again, you might get a tactical withdrawal for a few kilometers, but that's if that's considered a victory for ukrainians. and then afterwards they lose that ground anyway. then then you know, they, they really need some help, but no, i don't see any of the pool. i see is victory. you know,

those areas where we've been. and then of course ahead of us front line troops of completely obliterated the ukrainians where they have to withdrawal. and then of course, what happens then is as engineers, we go forward to make camps and we'll have you. so my, my understanding, my, and my experience is the i the, i see nothing but ukrainians getting push back, considering the possibility that you would have to fight nato troops. what do you use your stance on that? are you prepared or the to meet that kind of of challenge or do you have any reservations? no, none of cool say it's any kind of fight. and what do you put in your, your life at risk is, is he makes you apprehensive in some ways, especially when you that, but you know, this, this idea of the nato troops and this some kind of secret weapon is going to turn the tide of the war, they could all get involved at this point in this. so i'm going to wind their own russian stores that must i simply why they what when,

but find my fellow countryman press say, if i were to come up against the i wouldn't hesitate and i know that sounds again. the word traits are for me, comes to mind when people hear me save up, but of course i'm fighting for a cause is audiology for me. so whatever they want me to do, i'm going to do. so my 1st ability. so now i'm not ready. i'm, it doesn't really bother me if, if i come up against nato troops, per se, is not the sounds kind of cut. so i was kind of blog a like, i'm not above it is like i more the head of fights and in the war it makes no difference whether it's a ukrainian flag or nato flag, you know. right. i understand. well, as far as your family, do you think you're gonna any little comfortable going to see you here? are you going to be able to see them again? well for they want to see you. i've come so i've come to terms of the fact that a lot of my friends, i'm never going to say again, you know, i can't go home to any funerals or weddings or policies. so, you know,

my children's birthdays. i think as my children get older, they probably would come on see me in, in russia. some of my family have said that they want to come and see me in russia . but then of course, saying it and she doing, it seems different matter. so i don't know as far as i'm concerned, i made a rush and i'm finding the life and it is kind of like i'd accepted the idea of already that maybe that might not happen. so i might not get to see my friends or family again, and so the british for us labeled you as, as a traitor, as we said before. and they said that your family to sonya what do you say today is how much of that is true? how much of that is a yellow journalism is i call it as well. it is, is partly true, but it's, it's not any information that they've claimed. i've been pre open with that on my say for me to is in terms of um, my, my journey. so to speak, and half of my family have this, i me some of my friends of the so me they would speak to me. and the simple reason

for that is that not really political people, they sit down in front of the tv after holidays work, eating the dinner. and they see the news and they kind of believe what they see on that, which is, you know, most people in most countries that's kind of the case. you know, so they've kind of, um, took offense to me coming over here on the list which, which family members and you know, which um, which people did it is the have to show me. but yeah, i would say over half my family i have to so me, for coming over to russia the, the most painful aspect of it is i now are those see more children as a result? you know, right. i understand the day know that you were coming over or was it a surprise? it was also back though it was a surprise. i mean, you probably maybe 2 people knew and they were like personal friends which still supposedly but no one else knew how to be kept some top secret. because if it wasn't, and then i wouldn't get it out of the country cuz i was detained as it was when i was in london,

apple under the terrorism act. but of course then there was no evidence to that i was doing any wrong doing. so they had to release me cuz of course i was going to rush or on holiday, you know, so waste. so you are flying the rush on a holiday as far as i knew, and they detained you, or they are under the section 7 and terrors of my to vote for like 34 hours. and then they let me go and i got my flight just in time. is that something they do for everybody? or is that something that well, you got booked out the crowd. they don't do that to everybody, but of course i don't know why they did that to me may maybe they were aware of my political lien. and so that, that's basically the only thing that i can think of if they knew that i was pro russian. and then of course, i think that was probably the reason staples mainly or into the office. what do you do in while you go in there for these different questions that you were asking me, but again, no evidence of any wrong doing so the on, so let me get on the flight to, to come to russia. and that's why that would you, us, or you, because a single one does not, or the u. k. is not officially

a war with the russian. any of us in any sense. and at the same time, you have the freedom to make your own decisions, to, to choose your own side. but you got pulled out because of your readings. i think i think that's probably good. cool. so i'd imagine when it comes to the security services, any british status wouldn't go into russia. that kind of is, is kind of going to come up on the system or why they go in there for some. maybe you might get a little investigation into your name. i don't know why they did it, but of course if i was going to key of none of that, what happened? right. which is quite how ironic it is ironic, is it? uh, what do you say as far as the terrorism that the, the regime and key assessment, sponsor progress city, other terrorist attacks with a desk or on the, i mean this is a, you can see with, with the situation especially in moscow. and then of course, i drove in attacks into russian territory. and then of course,

probably mocking places in belgrade, is the last froze of a desperate regime. i think, of course, is disgusting because these innocent people again murdered in names. and what i'll do, i would like, or i can say really is i, i can them the, and all that's gonna happen is that just going to get stronger response and it's just going to end more quicker to be for. now does any of the come out in the british press, the british people see anything associated with that, with the crock, a city or with any of the bombings in belgrade or in the den? yes, belgrade, and then that's not really other than if they try and blame russia for doing it for bombing themselves. it's got the, the, the attack in the, the attack in, in most go was televised in the west. but of course my, my understanding from people back home is the, was, is i make a terrorist that did it. and of course ukraine had played no part. and i suppose in a way, even though i know these things, the west side of loans is like sometimes that they were in your head. you know,

so i, i come to russian. i think actually of what they said. this is not true. but if anything came to the complete opposite, it's not only not true, it's completely fake, completely false. and the actual fact, i feel free a, in russia than i do in the united kingdom, which may sound bizarre to some people. but to me, that's my experience. you know, you know, that i've heard in my direction, i've heard of the other people that i know from the west that came over the usual accusation is you're being, you're being pulled around where you're knows you're not seeing the real truth. what would you say to that? i mean i these people to read in newspapers and watching tv. i'm living there, you know, that's, that's the difference. you know, i can be very abrasive at times. you know, so if, if there's things that i see that i'm not happy with, i'll say i don't have those experiences with offices and combine, does a few incidences where i was unhappy, i spoke to them approach them and they resolved that instantly. so i don't know

being hood, wait a few little issues i did, which was minor issues. it's probably not even relevant to the conversation. but my point being is i was able to remedy these situations quite quickly. being hoodwinked, so being on some so i mean, you know, i don't know what to say to that. is this complete rubbish or like if i was being, if i was being would wait until would be during these interviews? no, great, i'm pretty sure if i'd be press gang to the front and nobody really speaking to me . no, i. this is what are they going to say here, eva? i come to rush out to fight for them. best buy. i know drug addicts. i'm an alcohol, they come to criminal, you know, this is, this is what they do when it goes when that doesn't work and people can see that that's not working. they then start with this nonsense, like i'm being hood weights and the next in the papers bill prints in stage 2 things for which you know they, they still have not already anyway of both. is there anything you'd like to tell us

anything more before we end the interview? anything that any message that you want to give to your family? anybody else is going to be listening to this? watching you mainly to the bridge people. that's a full inquiry and i'm the government, the support ukraine is. the last closed loan is a law schools x a is, is the wrong cause. you know, you're going over that you'll hear murder and people, people, bridge soldiers which ago know vanessa of and then the, i don't know what reasons they may go for the, in the have of my, my imagination would. i imagine that it would be money and the fact that probably psychopaths and they like the idea of go in to, to final. so well they need to do is lay down that guns because they've only a problem. they will no quarrel with russia out. there's no reason for those to fight for ukraine. you know, the fascist regime with openly simple band our and if they know, believe me,

the people back home. i mean in terms of maybe watching this or read in the newspapers or whatever. you know, for a quick google search will show you the spectrum is about an error, and i will show you the ukraine, you know, they have a national holiday after button there and they'll just bond arrow. so the of a fascist that with members of the organization of ukrainian nationalists, i think it was cold here. you and so yeah, there's no quarrel. so i have, you know, i want to purchase soldiers to put their guns down, go back home. i'd like to thank you. thank you for your time and for your honesty and openness and for the audience. i think the audit as a really, really appreciated which you have to say. thank you. well, i appreciate the opportunity. thank you again the the look forward to

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