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wise with solve off the gaps has also been strained by divided diseases on these rally palestinian conflict. south africa has accused of washington grows all i ease all of committing genocide in gaza in a case of the international court of justice. the u. s. was rejected. san plans and despite the blow, when dissatisfaction with washington policies and offered us believe it is the best part now for the continents, we think with the best we think we offer opportunities consistent with africa, style, ease of freedom and democracy. and so we want to be the partner that you choose to work with what all these words, what log on, seemingly pleasant rhetoric. we gauge the opinions of. so my jerry and i would think about that. but if you before my freak out, if what is offered, you don't want to, i forgot to be awkward so that they know that they were on the bus stop. i don't think they have done much if i may say,
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especially dental secretary before they have to, they know that this dental benefits from you don't start to gain, don't have, i have to. so i think most of the i had some watching the skype most time. yeah. joseph, that yes, if his interest, as african mason's get fired from an old system, some are turning their attention to russia, which has repeatedly fledged, it's even as the pursuit mutually beneficial relations with the continents. and one way to show that was last year when the blacks, the rain deal broke off russia. sense times are free, rain and fertilizers. advocate in countries most in need seems 20 to 22 most because image in africa has improved even more than china's roger has seen double digit increases in age. countries and equivalent decreases in just 2, but supports remain strong nest in countries in this how. how awesome multiplan of
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wild emerges, developing countries are demanding their fair share. and the real questions are well, the west, the willing to accept the new realities, or will ask of nations continue to turn to russia for stronger partnerships. c o p 's r t. like curious, well, that sol, phone me for that i as always is waiting to have your company here on, on the international, my calling mazda. of course, it will be with you, the total of the hour. be the old. a great day, the . the
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hello and welcome to prospect boards on peter labelle here. we discuss them real news background. the cam run and nature where doubling down on ukraine and or anti is really protests on campus is significant. how do they compare with previous spouts of student activism? who discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess door to send me while we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals, and america hash. we have martin j, he's an award winning journalist and commentator. right, gentleman cross type rules and effect, that means can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with georgian in budapest. there was a pattern here developing george every time the president of france a menu of mcgraw's and speaks to the economist. he causes a lot of mist yet. okay. any shatter is that, that claim that nato is completely lock step. he used to buy because every time he speaks to the economist, he gets a lot of other nato members, important ones like b, u, k, that disagrees with him. so what did he say this time?
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the 2 major takeaways were, and this is about the introduction of french troops or nato troops deliver, really clear to me what the translator should make that clear. but he does that. um, so nato troops are french troops with inter um ukraine if ukrainian lines were breaking. well, they are breaking okay. um the 2nd one is if you give request, so i have to re a request for assistance. i just have to wonder it is most going to have his phone disconnected because i think they would have called by now. george, what do you draw from this? we'll talk about david cameron, who should have disappeared from public life forever, but the fact. so let's talk about the liquor of the person. for us city, right, the lift, it's a very head scratching experience. 11 has one been listening to these interviews with back wrong because he expounds at great length without ever really explaining what he means. so he declares that, oh, well,
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he wants these introduction. as you say, it's not clear with his french troops or a native truth. i assume you would like nato chose, but as a backup, just in case he doesn't get the major troops that he just as french troops. well, because he wants to create strategic ambiguity. so he wants pull to, uh, to be on something in his own mind. what he wants to do, and then he says, and then he just the by side by side. oh yeah, but um, you know, with the, we've been putting all these limits on what we've done in the past. but protein has no limits on what he does, which of course is complete nonsense because the boot and as shown itself to be extremely limited in his goals in the ukraine. and then he says, as you say, well, if you brain in lines of breaking, which is what it, what does he mean by that is like breaking now?
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so for those, as you say, is this, um, we have as the lensky aust full of french troops and he said, but so far he hasn't dos. okay, well, how about tomorrow he's gonna use go to us. what do you, what are you going to do then? so he thinks that he's being very cute, hit the oh, i'm creating some of these. you're going to do it to, you know, go to now there's no wonder what, what i'm going to do. and that's a and that's a good thing for us, but it really isn't. because now he's now set it several times and he's got to be eventually cold up on it. you can't just keep glossy without getting cold up on your bluff. so i for you, want me put dates are going to be good and strategic confusion are 2 different things. you know, martin, it's, i think, you know, we've seen enough of hollywood buildings. i mean, you go into a bar and you want to pick a fight. you better not be bluffing, you better be prepared to fight. i think that this is the confusion. benjamin chrome is sending out not only within the natural world but addressing the russian
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so it seems like confusion not in beauty to me. yeah. i think i'm, i wasn't it not going. so you said a couple of years ago when describing they said that it was brain dead. i think this is really the breakdown narrative now that he's indulging in, unlike any these solo speeches, the sort of chops that he has with dr. this, of this sort of coal censor done isn't, isn't that, you know, you have to publish what he says. if you're the economy is really uh, used to take out full page and its oil in the tell her girlfriend and the front edition unit also longer. because he really believes that he is a lovely, that he really believes that he is a little icon and the anglo saxon wisdom weld. and because he isn't. and that's really the problem, you know, and that's why you need to keep doing this because it's an idea that he has that he's a world leader and he has that kind of implants. and what's really going on there, you know, is this really serious? you know, you mentioned the us see, i think is a lot of smoke and mirrors here. not really much of it make sense talking about the
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russians breaking through the printed lines. that would be the printing and lines that don't exist because ukrainians took the money from the americans to build this so called national line, but they didn't actually build it in the end. so what's the, what's the ones that have, you know, breaking sort of a credited lines below, you know, what's really going on that i've written in my, the totals, and i've attempted before on the show about these mac chrome polemic. you know, this is that some, this is already about starting uploaded. and what you really want to do is scan them, got a number of a human mistake in particular hungry into thinking that look, if you don't sign off on the 100000000000 dollar packets that we've got in the pipeline from nice to you know, new blocks that we're just going to be a massive failure for, for the west of the lease. if it doesn't go through, if you, if you don't sign off on that, then we can result of this and you being in the region, you know, you being a, on the boulder, you're going to be really at the,
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one of the countries. it's going to be a hit, the hardest if we start to go back here and say the amount of mess, this is not a mess. it should, the russians. it's a message to other nato members. yeah. if you don't, you're sure you know that. and then george, i mean it's also public opinion that he needs to look like a leader or something like that. and you know, it's still championing his inner boat or par to george. i mean he was doing, i mean i just, i mean they do, they both are small man. i mean that that works at least in here. okay. thats charged me. no i i think so. um, but they also, um, you know, they gave you, peter alluded to it the other day. there is a um, a desire on the pots of, uh, your ups liters. and then the all this includes my crown, but we're still left on the line and use that barrell to crack down on the european freedom of speech as much as possible and generally the freedom in europe. and what better opportunity is the then where in the state or rule. and lena bedbug has
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already said, you know, we are a boy with russia. so there is a, a vested interest among europe that leads to whip up wolf of a to justify you know, the various crackdowns on the, on social media, on free expression that they already have in the pipelines. i mean, we will about the digital services act, the e u as adopted the constantly applying pressure against the social media. this is the best opportunity for it. so, um, you know, that there is obviously that, that aspect of it. but the vision micros problem does still, if you have now said this over and over again. and that's at some point you're going to be on the whole, they gonna have, they use the, the landscapes going to come to you. and you know, all the, the university policy makers, all the same things like they come to you and say, well, this is the opportunity, you know, we go, we've got a real problem on my hands. and, and this is somebody gives
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a board also the getting the other day if rusher wins and ukraine, then we are on the thrift will blow your if is on the thread over the last the go. it is on the thread. we cannot allow russians the when, so you settle this? well, you have pretty much coming up. the brains are saying, well, now we're a more and, and then then what are you going to do? you go to sob, mobilizing the country, and well, you know, that's a good one. it has to be towards or like this and the, the, the, you're heading to was the disaster that has to wonder if prince generals, with even he the call to be honest with you. okay. mine was go to the u. k. david cameron, the return of the, the walking dead is it were that as part of the secretary, his government took a show lacking in local elections. and he's saying that, you know, of something like, you know, a guaranteed $3000000000.30 pounds a year for ukraine, adding per item here. i wonder why they lost those electrons so that you know,
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when they lost those electrons because hardly anybody, even tory supported is conservative. supporters have any confidence in this government to win the next term election. you know, we're all basically preparing for a length of victory which is a disaster. so because i think laid a particular of our even the lease on the issues that we're concerned about. yeah, i don't see a difference. yeah. i know. so, i mean it's so for david cameron, too, so spouses, you know, it's very difficult to, to, to consider the thing about david cameron without thinking of that terrible article that somebody wrote about him. where at each and a party does something quite basically with picks head, but moving away from the house that's so sexual x, i think he's really also cavities and days. and he knows that in 6 months time is going to be out of a job. so it raises myself, what he said, obviously he's gonna support bite and, and this idea to the helps, you know, the, he's just put, going in the rack or the saying, you know, the idea of, uh,
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friendship. so i'm a trips in the ukraine is completely out of the question because that which is spock a world war, but he doesn't come up with video. tons of cloud is still very concrete except the signing of more and more money unless they can us a he to answer your question. i think people are tired of these policies in the u. k, which doesn't make any sense, which doesn't add up a tool to you politically into nicely away and domestically. you know, and i'm, well, i think the question we should ask us that was in the u. k. and then the european union and the america on we, on the cost of some massive political see change, you know, is there a new generation of politicians now going to be a should in what's happening in the okay. and you mentioned the local elections is the, it seems to be a period of the little amount. so we're gonna have, i think, a lot small independent candidates, you know, and if, and if i'm not, if i'm the choice guy, if enough all the, my judge gallery are able to actually direct and media tools and will come themselves now to on your trade in israel, you know something quite size, but it can happen in the next level. i mean, that's
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a problem. i agree with any lease then sentiment. i agree with you, but you know, i'm going to go to george who is the a consummate pessimist here. um uh and even is the promotion for this program on this channel. george repeats the words, we have the tools, they have the tools george they have spent. they basically have all the cards and the deck, social media, censorship, shutting down ben use um. there was a, a very famous um, uh, and they were um, some kind of palestinian surgeon that is, you know, just basically been made for simon and brought over at learning a to friends. and then they told them you can speak and literally put them on the late slide. they put them on an early what they did, and it's really nasty. these people are really nasty and they want to show their power in attempt intimidation. and violence is their strongest, but the last card to play that absolutely. right. and then the other day i, i saw a story. oh, some german politician has been attacked physically. it died so you know, but like it was a green one. was
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a green politician. other was social democrat bought it immediately. german media, all this is the ultimate different deutschland support us behind it. we've been waiting for this bobby to be bad, the drum and the, you know, whether it is, if it goes the pro russian, is it because they're a threat to the moms? is it because that against the they, the guy's name, addresses it because they've pro nazi but it's keeps coming. and so i think that's, that's how you deal with the, the, to the opposition to just the use of, of being against them obviously. but on the go back to breaking the kiss, some of the old, the dog, they have a bit of a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our d, the
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. the, what is part of the is it that the employee would post good? isn't the defense you of us and bidding the word part? is it something deeper, more complex might be present? let's stop without glitches. let's go out of the
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the welcome back across i bullhorn. i'm peter labelle here we are discussing some real names. right, george? so it's, yeah you, you were finishing up your answer in the 1st part of the part of them about descent and the tools of the state. keep going. yes, i believe you have to just, i'm a little with that question before the end of the be prime minister. not only give a not expect any change when it comes to foreign policy, it was the u. k. above is why the likely that it will mean the, the, the fact the re emergence of tony blair and tony black is yes. okay. absolutely. front and center with the, with global is with the a obviously you, the leaders and, you know, easily uh, begins, eventually as the backs along somebody is the it story too. i think it's more like it'll be re living the glory days of the late ninety's and the,
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or the body as of as a century. so it is, this goes intervention is um and mentality will continue. now the question is, well, how, how does the public respond to that? but now it was always seen in the u. k. this a new friends in the united states. there is real, real protest. and what's different about these protest um, as opposed to the uh, fraudulent bogus protest of 2020, the summer of george floyd. it is that these protests are about something. there is a, there are there against them. is that mention on, on behalf of the israel, they're against, there's an unconditional support for the, for risk atrocities. and that demanding that the, the institutions this, those themselves divest from israel. that's what they says it. that's not something
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a against the seduce lies. why braces of, you know, i, i'm, i'm against the police, you know, but just as nonsense, a complete just to be pointless. self indulgence. so if you've got a, i'm a move, but that is about something. well, that's going to be quite interesting to see what it was then that's gonna work blood pressure on the, on governments, and may lead to some sort shape. it's interesting to me, it would be martin if you look at the, the student protests across the western world. i mean, like i, you know, obviously if the issue of a, israel's genocidal acts against the palestinians and causes and blake. but i think, you know, in a broader sense, and it's something that we've talked many times in this program about is this is turning into just an anti establishment movement. because particularly when it was the young people of their, their avenues to move forward are very, very limited. and then you start taking, take talk away from them and things like that. and you know that in there's the
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american context of the 1st amendment. but i think if we look at be made the student movements all across the world, it is anti establishment and it's got legs because george's right, this is about something. go ahead martin. yeah, i mean, students, by definition you, the young, the 9 great enough forming personalities themselves are developing and they tend to look for causes, you know, and you know, whether you have what you'll meet people in y'all's to is big enough on dos or whether, you know, you're fighting for well peace. i think the power, those are interesting to what happened 60 years ago. if we look at barclay and columbia, how the student purchase actually made an impact. they were identified today by the 2nd what experts as really well began with the said end of the wedge. was this done some questioning? and i'm actually holding this document to account actually did find the results in america, putting on a vietnam, typically competitive thing that we will do it slight different situation in the, in those lives. in the sixty's, you're gonna federal press 0 to really independent,
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strong group of general see the salt. it was the jew, it seems to be able to establish minutes reports on the bench going papers. and i know i'm such for these days. i think the students took a more pressure on them, the biggest boy on them to make a difference because they know that was getting reported by it by, by the legacy media is not the truth. and you know, so i think that's a real danger of the athletes that these, these movements could really must from, into something, you know, be like, could be the only location the only place you go to, to get any kind of, uh, a sub, a comma tree about what's going on and as well. and then america's role though, you know, it could be the last bastion, basically a free space. so was space very closely, i think between now and, and the new terms, thoughts. and, you know, it could be very interesting to see how big these protests movers um, you know. yeah, we, we do see the establishment george fighting back. this ridiculous build. it's going through congress now is already been passed by the house going to the senate with
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agents. i mean, i, and i knew, i mean, we, we, you know, the member of the patriot act. we are also a business. so, you know, calendar, the 1st amendment and 4th amendment, you know, i mean this is all, this is on steroids right now. i mean, you and i have talked about this a guy like me, it's absurd, which is in that bill. it's absolutely absurd. and this is something that will be if it's a bed, it's directed it educational institutions. but when you put something on the books like this, it gets very elastic. and just going back to the 1st part of the program, the, the, the, the powers that be have an enormous array of tools. okay. it can take you out of the banking system like they did to the canadian truckers. i mean, yes, there is a difference between that, you know, in the sixty's, you know, they would be a men wanted to avoid the draft. they didn't want to go to vietnam. that's the draft is not the issue right now, but i would say the threats against descent are far greater now than an ever was in the 1960 storage way. i agree completely, and that's why i such
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a little wind to succeed. you would need really to mobilize as, as many of the opponents of the powers that be of the stablish worth as you can. but what, as much really within the last couple of weeks is that the populace, right? which i think could easily make common cause with the, with the students with the protesters because they themselves have been subjected to attacking the populace. right? we were opposed to lowering your brain for a post of comes at a post of the deep stage of a post the correct downs on free speech, but easily made common cause with with that because even if they can, they don't necessarily agree with the view in the middle east, they'll say, well yeah, but you know, there are against basically intervention is i'm getting into the stupid wars and so on. but instead they have now, well aligned themselves with the, the political establishment with the forces of the paintings again with us. right.
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and then you know, as a drop, when we get over good, easily i've just said yeah, but kind of, you know, i, i why sympathy is with them and it is that's it. yeah, yeah, that's up cracking head. so that's, that's cool in the police, you know, why, why is the, these university presidents not cold in the police earlier. and that, and that means that it is essentially they, they walked into a trap where you can just simply pick people off. you're just call them fascist one day it's trumpet is a boat as or fascist. and then that makes the protest as of the universe, the campus of passes. so every day you're deal 5 days, the fascist. and i think that's how you get to pick off the opposition. so thing was a great opportunity was miss in kind of in, in full, full make some kind of an alliance. yeah. but martin, they the, it's, it's really quite pathetic to watch because you see this unbridled use of force against primarily civilians and gaza. and then the plethora videos of young people,
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the being attacked by the police. particularly, that's the situation that you see a late, which apparently looked like vigilantes allowed onto the campus here. i mean, that's the one thing they had, you know, we could look at protests and we can look at for the various but the powers that be, have their unrestrained and using violence, they're the ones using violence. i'm just going to continue. unfortunately, you know, i mean while a way i carmen with the university in america, you might remind me in the sixty's where police actually have inside with the live rounds. hey, i'm here to see exactly what are the and brown university. i think, i mean, yeah, exactly. it is the 54 years ago. yeah. so we're looking at this whole cycle now. is that going to be the thinking? i mean, i think what you mentioned earlier about the correct down free speech and how these countries develop into basically refreshes regimes and where you know that, like china or like any of these countries that we look down on the last study is, you know, we've become like that now, and so free speech is going to be the real thing which is going to be around just
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completely. i'm wondering, was a, you know, the, the, these student protests are going to be the perfect, the almost gift wrapped. i guess the thing that the, the needs will shine a spotlight on a plane for everything. they'll be to escape goods. you know, and i think i can mix, i'm expecting already a little fake news of the falls flag attacks. you know, it is quite easy. the stage demonstrations you are if you want to mumps, if you, if you have the most dizzy that i get and he's and whether they be writing methods or whatever, i can see with this in the future. and i think the, i'm wondering with the student process, what will be, that will be the know that what they've been waiting for, you know, really something they can use, the manufacturing more fake news and it goes to break destruction statements for the, you know, in this age of cancelling the main, so would georgia of a, particularly in the case of the united states american news will be canceled and that'll be the big dixon for it. okay. i mean, basically, you know, you,
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we criticize these a leads through the, till the cows come home. but you, you never can do that, that they don't think big george. exactly. and when you look at these universities, they're in the business of raising money for them. do you think they got math is, is, you know, who's got the big box and they look at the students and they don't know big box. so the areas that are the exact to that. so, you know, if it's bound to, you know, what it's doing, keep blackman half a holy the, but the politicians on capitol hill have it or do i keep the students happy? it is no contest. the goal in the, the cost interesting. but what you said, the, the, the u. c. l. a, because that was the vigilant is it was a very well stage of occasions. and as a new york times reveal the other day that one of the finance is all of this vigilante group of the us. c l a. was jerry seinfeld, wife. um. so you gotta get the celebrity active as of now, the owner's,
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the whole, the side of the cracking down those students because they knew exactly what they were doing that were going to cause violence, which then trigger is a police or a response to. so now you have this like so the celebrities themselves, you know, suddenly discovering the jewish lives these opposite and multi 1000000000 as well. you know, that don't made that with these stupid jokes of stupid said comes over the years. oh that list. so jewish, they, they have to do what they can for israel. so they, you know, no, definitely, they're my answer correct. now what their identity is, but they're very, very rich and really rich and get what they want. martin, it's a we have to point out to our viewers that, that southern california is a little crude, occupied territory. a lot of people don't know that, but they, they, they, they, it's very strong that they look good at it. when's the last 20 seconds? go to you martin. go ahead. yeah, i think on the student progress thing on the other thing that i found are interesting is that how a number of interest to campus has now have struck deals with the students who no
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one has agreed that the american un 2nd sent into you and the bus of the doesn't speak of the conference that she was supposed to speak a long as a crate offered narrow cultural center as okay. okay. but you know, getting the money is on time. still the got all the window dressing, hips. unfortunately gentlemen. that time, always slice too fast, but run out at the moment. i think my guessing, budapest and america should. of course i want to think it would be worse for watching us here. dc you next time. remember crossed apples, the
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the gremlins folks buttons at the upcoming rush and military exercises with non strategic lead. the weapons relate to western readiness to send troops to the trade in athens often recognized that it is not the premium to our lord. they are only as to their bodies be nothing with moscow says that the west has that letter to you. the key must have told to fight against russia and badly trained for his people with physical disabilities and mental ill a into the army retreat the numbers and the un denounces israel decision to expel the news board cost. i'll give you. are there arkansas in the standing the cutoff age news? i would like to the end of my.

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