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pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so mendel, he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and when we go into a supermarket used to see the national enquirer be like, oh, my god. and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. you got the information that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to michael cohen. and this is something that i think the jury in plain terms, are able to digest and they don't know how to apply this information. but shortly after closing arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, there'll be able to put it all toge
pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable....
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and david pecker's testimony didn't help the prosecution. and it was particularly delicious, i thought, to see how uncomfortable one cnn host got when one of his guests spoke the truth about the case. >> he is taking the wind out of the prosecution's sales and said showing there was this relationship that had nothing to do with sort of a quid pro quo. >> confirm the concept of catch and kill was not talked about at the august 2015 meeting at trump tower that's correct pecker said. >> bove doing a great job of bringing out facts that undermine. >> confirm that trump and cohen did not pay story former door man at trump power tower. >> laura: well, got to interrupt when you don't want where it's going. they are getting nervous. the lawfare being waged against trump seems to be totally back firing. and so disappointed common tartsd who kind of bet the farm on this, are just left sputtering. even and this was really great this morning. offering nasty jabs after trump's sweet birthday greetings to melania. >> what they want to point out wish his w
and david pecker's testimony didn't help the prosecution. and it was particularly delicious, i thought, to see how uncomfortable one cnn host got when one of his guests spoke the truth about the case. >> he is taking the wind out of the prosecution's sales and said showing there was this relationship that had nothing to do with sort of a quid pro quo. >> confirm the concept of catch and kill was not talked about at the august 2015 meeting at trump tower that's correct pecker said....
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today was the final day of the prosecutor's first witness, david pecker. trump's lawyers continued their cross-examination, focusing on the theme that the catch and kill agreement made between pecker, trump, and trump's former lawyer michael cohen was just standard operating procedure for pecker and "national enquirer." they suggested pecker's actions were based on business considerations and he would have done them anyway whether or not he had an agreement with trump. for instance, pecker admitted to trump's lawyer that the $30,000 payment to buy the rights for the former doorman's false story that trump fathered an illegitimate child could have led to millions of dollars in sales for the "national enquirer" if true. he asked and that is why you decided to pay mr. sajudin $30,000, correct? pecker answered, yes. bovee, because you could not have him taking his story to another publication if it was true, right? pecker, that's correct. bove, it would be too great a loss to ami to lose control of such a story if it were true, right? >> yes. they had yet to e
today was the final day of the prosecutor's first witness, david pecker. trump's lawyers continued their cross-examination, focusing on the theme that the catch and kill agreement made between pecker, trump, and trump's former lawyer michael cohen was just standard operating procedure for pecker and "national enquirer." they suggested pecker's actions were based on business considerations and he would have done them anyway whether or not he had an agreement with trump. for instance,...
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pecker this week? >> lester, pecker is a useful witness for prosecutors to the extent he can testify about conversations about mr. trump that touch on his alleged scheme to influence the election, but what he can't offer, lester, is any evidence on the actual crime that the former president has been indicted for, which isn't a campaign finance violation. it's the way his payments to cohen were documented on his internal records. now, we'll see if other witnesses can speak more directly to that, lester. >> okay, laura, thank you. >>> president biden was also in new york today giving a rare interview to radio host howard stern and making news about whether he'll debate mr. trump. peter alexander joins us. what did he say? >> reporter: for months he refused to say whether he will agree to a faceoff with former president trump, but today he told howard stern, i'm, quote, happy to debate him, though he didn't say when or how many times. it would be a dramatic sequel to their feisty debates four years ago. o
pecker this week? >> lester, pecker is a useful witness for prosecutors to the extent he can testify about conversations about mr. trump that touch on his alleged scheme to influence the election, but what he can't offer, lester, is any evidence on the actual crime that the former president has been indicted for, which isn't a campaign finance violation. it's the way his payments to cohen were documented on his internal records. now, we'll see if other witnesses can speak more directly to...
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but david pecker said he had been truthful on the stand. he reiterated that he did that scheme alongside donald trump and michael cohen, allegedly, to help the campaign. egyptian mediators are in israel tonight, in a new attempt to reach a ceasefire in the war in gaza. several israeli media outlets are reporting the country�*s war cabinet discussed a possible deal ahead of the delegation�*s arrival. an egyptian news agency linked to the country�*s intelligence sevice says there�*s been "notable progress" in finding common ground. but for now, there is no sign of the war letting up. the israeli army is massing tanks near the boundary with southern gaza — in apparent preparation for a long—promised ground invasion into rafah. this was the scene in rafah on friday night — as israel continues to bombard the city from the air. gaza�*s hamas—run health agency says at least 50 people have been killed in israeli attacks over the past 2a hours. among the dead is sabreen al—sakani — a baby girl rescued from her dying mother�*s
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trump denies that affair, too, but former "national enquirer" public er publisher, david pecker, has testified that at trump's direction, his tabloid bought mcdougal's story but never ran it to protect trump's campaign. and after the election, pecker told the jury trump thanked him. on cross examination, trump's lawyer, susan necheles, suggested stormy daniels visited trump tower because she was being considered for a role on the apprentice. graff said there was office chatter about that, adding "i vaguely recall hearing trump say that daniels may be one of the interesting people who could be on the show." but no ambiguity on one point, when trump's lawyer asked graff if she wanted to be there in court, her one word answer, "no." and as she left the stand, donald trump rose up out of his chair to greet her, whispering some words and extending his hand. >> reporter: the first week of testimony ended with a banter of testimony. the jury heard the granular details about the shell company, michael cohen used to pay stormy daniels her hush money. remember, prosecutors have to prove that w
trump denies that affair, too, but former "national enquirer" public er publisher, david pecker, has testified that at trump's direction, his tabloid bought mcdougal's story but never ran it to protect trump's campaign. and after the election, pecker told the jury trump thanked him. on cross examination, trump's lawyer, susan necheles, suggested stormy daniels visited trump tower because she was being considered for a role on the apprentice. graff said there was office chatter about...
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i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were hearing about just as the testimony was ending today and explain that difference. now, there's why it is that the national enquirer wasn't paying for this third and final scheme with respect to stormy daniels, but it had to be paid for by michael cohen. so i think that is a very important new detail that we heard that helped flesh out the scheme that we, the basics of which we knew about your book breaks down the very colorful cast of characters in this specific case, but not necessarily trump's assisted rhona graff and michael cohen's banker, gary farro. these lower profile voices set up the
i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were...
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david pecker is not foreign to me. what he's talking about is not foreign to me, but i think for the larger public, to hear what really goes on, particularly with that kind of tabloid newspaper i think is fascinating. also, let's not forget, we are talking about a former president who is in court over hush-money payments, who has been found liable for fraud and for sexual assault, who could it be in washington for the immunity hearing from when he was president. this guy is going to -- has been spending more time in court than on the campaign trail to run for reelection. i think what makes this week and this case so fascinating is that we are watching this guy be held accountable for at least a sliver of what he has allegedly done. amna: in the new york case, he is now violated the gag order a total of 15 times. jonathan: and counting. amna: is there any way for president trump to be reigned in on that front? david: i think his entire administration tried to do that for four years and it didn't work. jonathan: no. amna
david pecker is not foreign to me. what he's talking about is not foreign to me, but i think for the larger public, to hear what really goes on, particularly with that kind of tabloid newspaper i think is fascinating. also, let's not forget, we are talking about a former president who is in court over hush-money payments, who has been found liable for fraud and for sexual assault, who could it be in washington for the immunity hearing from when he was president. this guy is going to -- has been...
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but david pecker said he had been truthful on the stand. he reiterated that he did that scheme alongside donald trump and michael cohen, allegedly, to help the campaign. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let�*s look at another story making news. it�*s been a day of fighting talk from humza yousaf, insisting he won�*t resign as scotland�*s first minister, if he loses votes of no confidence, in him and his government, which are expected next week. the snp leader is struggling to stay in control after he ended a power—sharing arrangement with the scottish greens, leaving him at the helm of a minority administration. here he is speaking in dundee on friday. i�*v e i�*ve heard the anger and upset from green colleagues, and it wasn�*t meant, the action wasn�*t meant to upset and anger them which is clearly been communicated by them. and anger them but clearly, i will be writing to patrick harvey and lorna slater to let see if we can meet but it does not mean that two pro—independence parties who share so ma
but david pecker said he had been truthful on the stand. he reiterated that he did that scheme alongside donald trump and michael cohen, allegedly, to help the campaign. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let�*s look at another story making news. it�*s been a day of fighting talk from humza yousaf, insisting he won�*t resign as scotland�*s first minister, if he loses votes of no confidence, in him and his government, which are expected next week. the snp leader is...
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that's the same account that former american media ceo and president david pecker testified cohen nearly used to reimburse him. for purchasing the lifetime rights to former playboy model karen macdougall's story about an alleged affair with trump who said again tonight this trial is politically motivated. >> we sit here day after day after day, which is their plan because they think they might be able to eke out an election. >> today pecker wrapped up his testimony, telling the court, quote: i have been truthful to the best of my recollection. former president trump's lawyers exposed inconsistencies with pecker's testimony about whether or not trump thanked him for suppressing stories. pecker says he now believes he violated federal election law while suppressing macdougall's story. trump's long-time executive ronna graph also took the stand today describing the former president as a formal and respectable boss for 34 years. maintained contacts including those of mcdo you go and adult film actress stormy daniels. graph vaguely testified she remembered see daniels at the trump tower befor
that's the same account that former american media ceo and president david pecker testified cohen nearly used to reimburse him. for purchasing the lifetime rights to former playboy model karen macdougall's story about an alleged affair with trump who said again tonight this trial is politically motivated. >> we sit here day after day after day, which is their plan because they think they might be able to eke out an election. >> today pecker wrapped up his testimony, telling the...
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pecker. they tried to get him to poke holes the prosecution narrative saying essentially the catch and kill scheme was good business for pecker and he cooperated with prosecutors because he was in the middle of a media acquisition deal and did not want that to be impacted. pecker hit back. he said he had been truthful the entire time and understood the catch and kill scheme to be in service of donald trump's campaign. the defense struggled to put a hole in the prosecution narrative. >> briefly, what will you be watching in a week to come? >> after president biden said he would be happy to debate donald trump, donald trump defiantly left the courtroom man said he would debate him anytime anywhere including here, next week, denied, or you been at the white house -- tonight, or even at the white house. we will see if the two have a debate. as far as the legal trial, we are waiting to see more former trump insiders take the stand. michael cohen, others, and how the defense will hinder that. >> ne
pecker. they tried to get him to poke holes the prosecution narrative saying essentially the catch and kill scheme was good business for pecker and he cooperated with prosecutors because he was in the middle of a media acquisition deal and did not want that to be impacted. pecker hit back. he said he had been truthful the entire time and understood the catch and kill scheme to be in service of donald trump's campaign. the defense struggled to put a hole in the prosecution narrative. >>...
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trump has not criticized david pecker at all. i want to ask you before you go, because yesterday we saw i made a major court ruling completely separate from the trump case also on a subject that you've broken a lot of stories about and you think it could ultimately manner for trump the new york court of appeals overturned harvey weinstein's 2020 eviction for sex crimes basically, the court said that the lower court made a mistake by allowing women to testify about allegations of sexual assault that we're separate from the three for which he was actually charged in that case, you are at the forefront of investigating, reporting a multitude of allegations against weinstein. you say this ruling could come back to haunt trump's judge juan merchan in trump's trial, explain well, it illuminates a shared legal issue that is at the heart of both of these cases of course, for activists and for survivors of harvey weinstein's alleged crimes it's an anguished moment, to hear that one of his conviction was overturned on essentially a questio
trump has not criticized david pecker at all. i want to ask you before you go, because yesterday we saw i made a major court ruling completely separate from the trump case also on a subject that you've broken a lot of stories about and you think it could ultimately manner for trump the new york court of appeals overturned harvey weinstein's 2020 eviction for sex crimes basically, the court said that the lower court made a mistake by allowing women to testify about allegations of sexual assault...
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former national acquired chief david pecker wrapping up his testimony and we got to hear from the prosecution's next two witnesses. trump former assistant monograph, a 34-year-old veteran of the trump organi organization, and a former banker at first republic when michael cohen was apparently seeking to arrange the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. trump signing off on another date in court. >> this is all a biden indictment. in order to try to win an election. nothing like this has ever happened. biden to debate come he can do it anytime he wants. can do it tonight. i'm here. i'm ready, willing, and able. and if he wants, i'll do it on monday night, tuesday night, or wednesday night. we'll be in michigan, a state that he has destroyed. >> shannon: the former president was certainly on the mind of the current president. joe biden repeatedly brought up donald trump while being interviewed by howard stern. >> i don't know if you are going to debate your opponent. >> i am somewhere, i don't know when. i'm happy to debate him. i don't think he likes his overhead on that score. >> what do you thin
former national acquired chief david pecker wrapping up his testimony and we got to hear from the prosecution's next two witnesses. trump former assistant monograph, a 34-year-old veteran of the trump organi organization, and a former banker at first republic when michael cohen was apparently seeking to arrange the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. trump signing off on another date in court. >> this is all a biden indictment. in order to try to win an election. nothing like this has...
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she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the implication. i don't think it actually is that potent of an observation. i don't i doubt we're going to hear from that lawyer in the course of this trial, which would be necessary to actually make that useful. >> let's let's go to our attorneys outside the room right now. i'll start with bill brennan. what's your what's your big takeaway from today if anything or if you want to look at the week in general, if if any gloves were laid on mr. trump or not? >> jake, i really don't think so. i heard on kush layout a scenario and certainly he could be correct with regard to actions taken in furtherance of a
she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the...
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david pecker and the national inquirerer. it seems like at some point we're going to get hope hicks whos was a member of the campaign and then the white house. and somebody who worked as a lawyer in the white house. what are you thinking? >> i think one thing i'm thinking is this is something we should actually celebrate in a way because it's our system working. what we're witnessing here is a court, which is the place that we go in our society to determine what is true, when it's contested, hearing evidence and weighing it under rules that are designed to protect everybody's rights. one of the things that has happened a lot in recent years in american politics is we have had a bit of anything goes in the truth in the court of public opinion. that's hard to pull off in the court of law. so to have this week a split screen in which in mand a former president is being treated like any other citizen in our society with all the protections afforded to them, having facts put out and a jury will decide his fate, at the same time wh
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did were in the best interest of david packer he runs the organization he is a fiduciary duty to do so and a lot of the decisions that he made yes, they may have had an ancillary benefit of benefiting the campaign but they were to benefit ami and a in my pocketbook when i was in the courtroom as well memory was a big issue and you have heard a lot of the discussion for weeks now months about the statute of limitations why is the statute of limitations not in this case the statue limitations are important because our memories wane over time you want any trial that will adjudicate someone's guilt or innocence to be done as close to the time of the event in question we are talking about 2015 or 16 and 17 and the prosecution had an opportunity and this was admitted yesterday by david packer to sit down and train david packer on the testimony, what he was going to say on the stand so his testimony yesterday was pretty good it was pretty fluid for a 72-year-old man today and part of yesterday trump's attorneys got an opportunity to cross-examine and you saw the lapse in the memory you saw
did were in the best interest of david packer he runs the organization he is a fiduciary duty to do so and a lot of the decisions that he made yes, they may have had an ancillary benefit of benefiting the campaign but they were to benefit ami and a in my pocketbook when i was in the courtroom as well memory was a big issue and you have heard a lot of the discussion for weeks now months about the statute of limitations why is the statute of limitations not in this case the statue limitations are...
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and look, david pecker is someone who has come off on the stand as reliable, as truthful. he said he doesn't harbour any ill will towards donald trump even now. he had a decades long relationship with him. they had a mutually beneficial relationship. and obviously, he then decided to cooperate with prosecutors. and while the defence understood that and didn't come out attacking him in the same way, they have michael cohen, donald trump's former lawyer, they did try to kind of poke holes in the prosecution's narrative. they tried to cast this whole catch and kill alleged scheme as a business decision, as david pecker as someone who was cooperating with prosecutors at the time because he was worried that a deal with his tabloid and another big media company to be acquired would fall through. but look, in every kind of instance, the prosecution came back on redirect and had mr pepper reiterate that this was all done on redirect and had mr pecker reiterate that this was all done to help donald trump's campaign. and so looking at the morning session, the defence didn't do reall
and look, david pecker is someone who has come off on the stand as reliable, as truthful. he said he doesn't harbour any ill will towards donald trump even now. he had a decades long relationship with him. they had a mutually beneficial relationship. and obviously, he then decided to cooperate with prosecutors. and while the defence understood that and didn't come out attacking him in the same way, they have michael cohen, donald trump's former lawyer, they did try to kind of poke holes in the...
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former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse, former federal prosecutor paul butler is back with me. former assistant new york attorney general tristan snell is in studio, and jeremy soland, criminal defense attorney and former manhattan prosecutor. i'm going to start with you because you're a defense attorney and you're new to this table. it's a challenge, right, no matter how many times the defense keeps going back and back and back to david pecker, trying to show this wasn't about the campaign, which is what you did, this is standard operating procedure, they said that over and
former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard...
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the prosecution will resume its redirect a former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker welcome to our two of america reports i am sandra smith in new york. >> john: i am don roberts in washington with court testimony resuming. the former president's legal team wrapped up with pecker earlier today he tried to poke holes in the testimony by pointing out some contradictions and inconsistencies. we have heard from trump once today before the court began, listen to this. >> we are doing very well in this ring to trial and everybody knows it. i think yesterday went very well. in the courthouse, it should be over. the case is over. you heard what was said, the case should be over. but you will have to make that determination and i think this judge will never allow the case to be held in. >> sandra: reaction to that in a moment. they will be here all our to help digest the news coming in from the courthouse. our own lower income will be joining us. that is just moments away. >> john: nate foy outside the supreme court would we expect when they get underway in a few minutes? >> john, th
the prosecution will resume its redirect a former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker welcome to our two of america reports i am sandra smith in new york. >> john: i am don roberts in washington with court testimony resuming. the former president's legal team wrapped up with pecker earlier today he tried to poke holes in the testimony by pointing out some contradictions and inconsistencies. we have heard from trump once today before the court began, listen to this....
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again, the focus that david pecker is here to tell the story that, number one, they used david pecker and the "national enquirer" to influence the 2016 election and that, number two, that they sought after these negative stories alleging extramarital affairs with donald trump in order to keep them from the american public before november of 2016, chris. >> okay. paul, trump's defense drilled in again today into the words standard in questioning pecker, they drew that running negative stories like one on trump's opponents was standard because it was good for business, but in redirect, steinglass also now honed in on that term. he asked is it standard to be negotiating with a presidential candidate's fixer on an agreement and is a $1 million liquidated damages clause on a $30,000 source agreement standard operating procedure. who's being more effective on the use of the word standard and why does it matter so much? >> so i think they were both making decent points. this trial is about trump's motive in arranging this hush money payment, hush money payments aren't illegal unless you're d
again, the focus that david pecker is here to tell the story that, number one, they used david pecker and the "national enquirer" to influence the 2016 election and that, number two, that they sought after these negative stories alleging extramarital affairs with donald trump in order to keep them from the american public before november of 2016, chris. >> okay. paul, trump's defense drilled in again today into the words standard in questioning pecker, they drew that running...
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he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker testified that there was that he had a conversation so what donald trump donald trump thanked him for taking care of the doorman's story in the karen mcdougal story so donald trump's attorneys pressed him on notes from previous interview had given with investigators. and in that interview notes he said, according to the fbi's nodes, that david pecker told them that donald trump did not express any gratitude david pecker dug in on that today saying that the fbi knows were wrong and that his testimony over the past few days is that correct accurate testimony? so a lot of back and forth over different
he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker...
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pecker's testimony in one of the things is that david pecker had previously told the fbi that donald trump never thanked him for any of the good stories, killing the karen mcdougal story and the dormant story but yesterday on the stand david said he had. these are some of the inconsistencies he pointed out to say maybe he is not as credible as the state would like him to be. >> sandra: all right, carrie, outside the courthouse for us as we expect this will resume shortly we are keeping an eye on that and will get back to that. by the way, john, big guest joining us live. she is a spokesperson for the trump legal team and she has said on the record in recent days during this trial that she is doubtful the court and the jury are going to do the right thing in this trial. she will join us with her thoughts on the latest developments, john. >> john: and with the legal eagles yesterday all the prosecution has to do is convince the jury that something bad happened here. even if there was no underlying crime. it would be good to be talking to alina coming up and as college campuses coming u
pecker's testimony in one of the things is that david pecker had previously told the fbi that donald trump never thanked him for any of the good stories, killing the karen mcdougal story and the dormant story but yesterday on the stand david said he had. these are some of the inconsistencies he pointed out to say maybe he is not as credible as the state would like him to be. >> sandra: all right, carrie, outside the courthouse for us as we expect this will resume shortly we are keeping an...
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. >>> former president trump's lawyers finished their cross-examination of publisher david pecker this afternoon. on redirect by prosecutors, pecker confirmed that he bought the story of former playmate karen mcdougal alleging an affair with trump to influence the election he added the purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so no other news organization could publish it >>> 21 million people are at risk from iowa to texas for severe storms. the storms are forecasted to bring hail, flooding and possible tornadoes in oklahoma, storms caused damage this morning with a tornado watch in effect. the worst of the storms is expected to continue into saturday >>> china ralaunched an aircraft to replace a crew. the mission is the country's 13th to space. tyler, back to you >> thank you very much >>> coming up on "the exchange," as banks limit lending amid higher for longer, could private credit be in a sweet spot for longer we'll talk to one player who says private credit will be the place to be for commercial real estate the ceo of preach tree group will join us to make his case. and investors
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let's talk about the role of david pecker. his credibility, once it's evaluated by the jurors -- he was the first witness and the feature witness of the trial so far -- is to take some of the burden to of michael cohen, who is obviously -- has damage connected to him being convicted and having admitted to perjury in the past and served time for that. >> right. that's baked into the calculation with michael cohen. he is a difficult witness. the government can't hug him too hard. he was donald trump's pick not prosecutor's pick. we are seeing this process that defense lawyer goes through in cross-examination. as vaughn said, they can't argue the evidence when they are cross-examining the witness. they are collecting coins that they hope will turn out to be valuable in closing argument when they can go back and argue to the jury. you can't really believe these people, they are not credible. >> the other thing, catherine, is this gag order hearing. judge merchan set it for next thursday. that's another week before dealing with the
let's talk about the role of david pecker. his credibility, once it's evaluated by the jurors -- he was the first witness and the feature witness of the trial so far -- is to take some of the burden to of michael cohen, who is obviously -- has damage connected to him being convicted and having admitted to perjury in the past and served time for that. >> right. that's baked into the calculation with michael cohen. he is a difficult witness. the government can't hug him too hard. he was...
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i was in the court for most the morning, and three ba themes emerged from david pecker. the first witness. the first main one was about memory. as you know as an attorney that the statute of limitations exist for a reason. because our memories reign over time. that is the reason this case, should have been tossed out a while ago because so many years have passed. so what the defense did today, without attacking a man in his 70s for not remembering is really poking holes in david pecker's recollection of key events. keep in mind yesterday was elicited on cross-examination that he was prepped by the prosecution multiple times throughout the course of his preparation for his testimony here and that is why his testimony was pretty good yesterday when it came to his direct examination but not as good as cross-examination. because again the defense attorney for trump's poking holes in his testimony. the second thing that stuck out to me is the juxtaposition. capitalism versus campaign. they were eliciting throughout the course of the testimony today, but a lot of the things th
i was in the court for most the morning, and three ba themes emerged from david pecker. the first witness. the first main one was about memory. as you know as an attorney that the statute of limitations exist for a reason. because our memories reign over time. that is the reason this case, should have been tossed out a while ago because so many years have passed. so what the defense did today, without attacking a man in his 70s for not remembering is really poking holes in david pecker's...
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david pecker ends how he started on the witness stand. right now trump's team continues their cross examination. pecker to remind you is the former ceo of american media. his testimony this week mostly focusing on a quote, catch and kill scheme to buy stories about his then friend donald trump without publishing them effectively keeping them hidden. atactic he used for other celebrities, too. separately bragg's team accused former president trump of violating his gag order four more times. that's in addition to the ten claims already made, by the way. prosecutors meantime want the judge to fine trump and hold him in contempt for every one of those. a hearing on the gag order is set for thursday, may two, trump speaking this morning before entering the courtroom. >> we're doing very well in this trial. everybody knows it. yesterday was a big day. yesterday went very well in this courthouse. it should be over. the case is over. you heard what was said and the case should be over. but you will have to make that determination. i think we have
david pecker ends how he started on the witness stand. right now trump's team continues their cross examination. pecker to remind you is the former ceo of american media. his testimony this week mostly focusing on a quote, catch and kill scheme to buy stories about his then friend donald trump without publishing them effectively keeping them hidden. atactic he used for other celebrities, too. separately bragg's team accused former president trump of violating his gag order four more times....
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david pecker responded, that's right. of course, at the heart of the charges here, falsifying business records, is specifically the stormy daniels payment and the reimbursement of michael cohen by donald trump. and what david pecker is now saying is that he never intended to be a part of the stormy daniels story here in the first place. another aspect of this here is the fact that they are going through some of the prior meetings that david pecker had testified about. one of them that they're currently discussing now is david pecker on january of 2017 walking into a trump tower meeting, just weeks before donald trump was sworn in as president, a meeting that included the likes of reince priebus, sean spicer and james comey and they're getting into the gritty details of exactly what david pecker's role is a part of all of these meetings was and the extent to which donald trump was using these opportunities to ensure the silence of some of these key figures. jose? >> this is a continuing issue, this meeting and as well as o
david pecker responded, that's right. of course, at the heart of the charges here, falsifying business records, is specifically the stormy daniels payment and the reimbursement of michael cohen by donald trump. and what david pecker is now saying is that he never intended to be a part of the stormy daniels story here in the first place. another aspect of this here is the fact that they are going through some of the prior meetings that david pecker had testified about. one of them that they're...
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what is the jury to do with this latest david pecker testimony? >> well, i think the problem is that from the prosecution standpoint, they are trying to convince the jury that there is this scheme to steal the election and that this deal is a component of it. to me, the trump defense should be there was nothing illegal about this deal and would i would be more concerned about, the more they go at pecker and cross-examine about this but conveys to the jury they must be being hurt by it why else testing pecker's testimony the way they are doing? i must say, shannon, i would have been tempted to do a very short cross examination of pecker, like five or ten minutes to get across to the jury that nothing he testified to -- the longer they go after this the more impression it is hurt by it and maybe bragg's theory is right. maybe part of a big conspiracy. >> shannon: you think they should wrap it up with this witness. we talked earlier about the fact the defense team has been pushing for more information which witnesses with coming next but hesitation t
what is the jury to do with this latest david pecker testimony? >> well, i think the problem is that from the prosecution standpoint, they are trying to convince the jury that there is this scheme to steal the election and that this deal is a component of it. to me, the trump defense should be there was nothing illegal about this deal and would i would be more concerned about, the more they go at pecker and cross-examine about this but conveys to the jury they must be being hurt by it why...
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david pecker. we'll be right back how would really happened sunday at nine on cnn. >> you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that is bad. boy can fix anything yeah. >> tough day at work, nice cruises sorts. >> you write out when i'm writing, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills hop. on the bike, man, i'll come on. >> you got...
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david pecker's cross examination continues today. what else should trump's team do to try to explain to the jury that this was not illegal? >> they are doing a good job largely allowing the case to collapse on its own weight. this case thus far is about a good a model as prosecution as the titanic is a good model for navigation. i don't understand why they would start with pecker. in my view he is disastrous. first of all, i'm speaking as a criminal defense attorney. what most good prosecutors, if they know the criminal defense attorney will bring up something damaging will bring it up themselves. the most damaging aspect of pecker's testimony is that he did the same thing for a wide variety of celebrities. that is really quite damaging. and by not revealing that to the jury in your direct, there is a sense that there was a hiding of the ball here. you can lose credibility with the jury. that is really quite remarkable. pecker said that he was doing this for trump decades before he ran for office. he said he did this for people like
david pecker's cross examination continues today. what else should trump's team do to try to explain to the jury that this was not illegal? >> they are doing a good job largely allowing the case to collapse on its own weight. this case thus far is about a good a model as prosecution as the titanic is a good model for navigation. i don't understand why they would start with pecker. in my view he is disastrous. first of all, i'm speaking as a criminal defense attorney. what most good...
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pecker and then as many high school students and their parents are facing college commitment day, more protests erupted on campuses nationwide, and one school in your state even had to cancel graduation. and then we've got an exclusive with the secret service and the nationwide crackdown on credit card skimming. we're going to show you how thieves could use hidden devices to steal your money, and where we can find them. also, gma is going green. more on earth week. the right stuff. and lori bergamotto has got some eco friendly upgrades for your closet. and then i'm going to take you to the grocery store. we're going to talk about expiration dates and so much more, because the first thing people think when they go to the grocery store and you hear the word sustainable or organic, they're like, great, it's going to cost more. we are going to show you how to make that not so you can actually save money. and then we're also going to talk about the highly debated in my house expiration date and food waste. >> okay. i'm glad you're talking about this because yesterday at the grocery store, i
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today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting to see, like you said, sarah, who is the next witness, is it someone who deals with the accounting inside ami or within the trump organization or is it michael cohen, another quite arguably the star witness for the prosecution so we'll have to wait and see. of course, we don't know because they are not giving away that witness lists or rather the order of that witness list. this ahead of time because of the fear that donald trump will post about them on social media and such. so we'll standby all right. >> brand jin grass standing by for court to resume. appre
today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting...
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david pecker back on the stand to resume testimony for the fourth day. pecker, still a friend of the president, even though they have not talked for a while. he talked about the catch and kill deal and recalled exchanging tips and killing stories as far back as 1998, practice the defense shows was just ordinary. >> today was breathtaking in this room 678. you saw what went on. it was breathtaking, amazing testimony. this is really incredible. it was an incredible day. open your eyes. >> pecker said he bought stories to kill about alleged affairs by arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods, so when karen mcdougal popped up about her affair, peck er bought that and buried it, too. we did not want this story to embarrass mr. trump or hurt the campaign. he feared he was violating election law. he turned down paying for stormy daniels story she had sex with trump because he said he did not want the enquirer to deal with a porn star. he related how after mr. trump was president, he thanked him for handling karen mcdougal and invited pecker and some editors to the wh
david pecker back on the stand to resume testimony for the fourth day. pecker, still a friend of the president, even though they have not talked for a while. he talked about the catch and kill deal and recalled exchanging tips and killing stories as far back as 1998, practice the defense shows was just ordinary. >> today was breathtaking in this room 678. you saw what went on. it was breathtaking, amazing testimony. this is really incredible. it was an incredible day. open your eyes....
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pecker testified ahead of the 2016 election, the magazine bought a story about the former president's alleged affair with a playboy model and buried it, a tactic known as catch and kill. trump has pleaded not guilty in the case. ultimately, if the justices choose to send this matter back down to the trial court as some appeared, ready to do, that would mean significant delays for trump's election interference case. jailbreak an abc news, washington. the chinese parent company of tiktok has no plans to sell the social media app. >> it comes after president biden signed a bipartisan law that requires chinese owned bytedance to sell tiktok or face a ban in the u.s. amanda is at the live desk with more on how the company is now responding this morning. >> julie and bytedance has denied plans to sell after reports surfaced it was exploring the sale of tiktok's us business. this is the company's first official response since president biden signed a bill that could lead to a nationwide ban under current u.s. law, tiktok now must find a new owner by january or be banned entirely. the ceo of
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pecker. yesterday, pecker said his newspaper paid to catch and kill karen mcdougal's story about an affair with trump. but trump never paid him back. so when the second woman, stormy daniels, came forward with her story, pecker wouldn't put up more money. and that's how trump's lawyer ended up paying. prosecutors say it was to the repayment to michael cohen was where the business records were forged. now, trump acknowledges the payments, but he says there were no affairs. there were also trump lawyers in the supreme court yesterday arguing that presidents should be immune from criminal charges. now, the same questions that came up in lower courts came up again. could a president order the assassination of a political opponent? could he sell nuclear secrets to a foreign country? and the answer was yes in certain cases, according to trump's lawyer. anyway, john sauer, because the way that sauer has set up his legal theory, he really can't answer otherwise. now just in, kagan pointed out the who
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pecker was back on the stand detailing how the magazine bought the story of former playboy model karen mcdougal's alleged sexual relationship with trump before the 2016 election and quashed it a tactic known as catch and kill. >> pecker described a thank you dinner at the white house and a meeting at trump tower, where trump said, i want to thank you for handling the mcdougal situation, then asking, how's our girl? pecker says he replied , she's quiet. things are going fine. pecker also testified that trump's lawyer, michael cohen, informed him before the election that star stormy daniels was shopping her story about an alleged affair, but in this case, pecker says he refused to buy it. ultimately, cohen himself paid daniels $130,000 to keep quiet, and prosecutors claim trump paid cohen back falsely labeling it as legal expenses. trump has pleaded not guilty on the stand. yesterday, pecker also testified about other stories. he claimed the magazine purchased about other celebrities, including allegedly , arnold schwarzenegger and tiger woods. no comment from either of those men this mo
pecker was back on the stand detailing how the magazine bought the story of former playboy model karen mcdougal's alleged sexual relationship with trump before the 2016 election and quashed it a tactic known as catch and kill. >> pecker described a thank you dinner at the white house and a meeting at trump tower, where trump said, i want to thank you for handling the mcdougal situation, then asking, how's our girl? pecker says he replied , she's quiet. things are going fine. pecker also...
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and apparently david pecker was giving donald trump a heads up about that story since 1998. which was long before donald trump announced his intent to run for president. but, yeah, ainsley, i mean, it was really interesting. we learned a lot about other celebrities who have done the same thing tiger woods, rahm emanuel. former president obama's chief of staff, arnold schwarzenegger, it's a pretty common practice. >> lawrence: katkerri, the prosecutor didn't lie but the lie of omission. when they did the cross of pecker they didn't bring any of this up. it was the defense that poked holes in it how does this play on the jury. this is donald trump. out of the ordinary. does not happen. and then you have the defense come right behind them and show it was actually pretty quite frequent that this happened. >> the entire case is misleading. still unclear what this underlying crime is that donald trump is supposedly -- was supposedly trying to conceal. we talked about this all week it. feels like they are looking for it as they go. and, so, again, if they are honing in on this new
and apparently david pecker was giving donald trump a heads up about that story since 1998. which was long before donald trump announced his intent to run for president. but, yeah, ainsley, i mean, it was really interesting. we learned a lot about other celebrities who have done the same thing tiger woods, rahm emanuel. former president obama's chief of staff, arnold schwarzenegger, it's a pretty common practice. >> lawrence: katkerri, the prosecutor didn't lie but the lie of omission....
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on his third day on the stand, former national inquirer publisher david pecker told the jury he refused to catch and kill a story from stormy daniels about her relationship with mr. trump. pecker said this was because he had already paid tens of thousands of dollars to kill other stories for trump. prosecutors are seeking to prove that mr. trump doctored business records to cover up a payment to stormy daniels. mr. trump denies any relationship or wrongdoing. now cross examination will continue today, and the defense team, they have been challenging pecker's credibility and his memory. richard? >> brie, thank you so much for that. >>> new this morning, more arrests on college campuses to tell you about. overnight, protesters were taken into custody at ohio state university. according to the columbus dispatch, hundreds gathered for a peaceful demonstration against the civilian death toll in gaza. they report that more than one dozen people were arrested. a university spokesperson confirming to nbc news that people who refused to leave after multiple warnings were charged with trespassing
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it just is not david pecker's to tell. he testified that he didn't have direct involvement in the purchase or negotiation of the stormy daniels settlement. to the extent "the enquirer" did at all, it was behind his pack. dylan howard, the chief content officer, got involved in it, even though pecker said an affiliation with a porn star will offend our largest distributor, walmart, and we don't want to get into that. but howard kept getting involved. >> from the white house, donald trump would check in on, quote, our girl, talking about karen mcdougal, and pecker would say, "she's quiet. she's fine," end quote. barbara mcquade, we've entered cross-examination. it began yesterday and will resume later today from trump's legal team. what kind of witness was david pecker for the prosecution? a good way to start? >> oh, i think he was a terrific way to start. you know, he is somebody who is -- has a story to tell. he can establish the timeline. he could begin at the beginning, in august of 2015 when this conspiracy began. and i
it just is not david pecker's to tell. he testified that he didn't have direct involvement in the purchase or negotiation of the stormy daniels settlement. to the extent "the enquirer" did at all, it was behind his pack. dylan howard, the chief content officer, got involved in it, even though pecker said an affiliation with a porn star will offend our largest distributor, walmart, and we don't want to get into that. but howard kept getting involved. >> from the white house,...
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trump continuing examination of national inquirer publisher david pecker. andy mccarthy standing by with his analysis there he is. >> brian: president biden is in the big city that's the nickname. is cl columbia university on the schedule? do you think he will go by like the speaker did? we didn't see it. >> lawrence: "fox & friends" begins right now and remember mornings are better with friends. >> ainsley: this is a fox news alert. we are following several big stories this morning. we are awaiting remarks from secretary of state blinken in beijing, fresh off his meeting with the chinese president xi. we are monitoring it and bring all of that to you live. >> brian: plus, more anti-israel protests expected today as president biden makes a stop in new york city. >> lawrence: down the road president trump's new york criminal trial resumes just hours from now. trump's defense team will continue cross-examination of david pecker. >> c.b. cotton joins us live coming up and eric shawn is live from the new york supreme court. eric, good morning. >> eric: good mor
trump continuing examination of national inquirer publisher david pecker. andy mccarthy standing by with his analysis there he is. >> brian: president biden is in the big city that's the nickname. is cl columbia university on the schedule? do you think he will go by like the speaker did? we didn't see it. >> lawrence: "fox & friends" begins right now and remember mornings are better with friends. >> ainsley: this is a fox news alert. we are following several big...
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trump's lawyers focus on during david pecker's cross examination? >> reporter: lester, for one, that donald trump was not the only celebrity he helped squash negative stories for, in exchange for good ones. but instead, that this was a mutually beneficialy here in new relationship dating back to the '90s, when donald trump was a celebrity here in new york city. cross-examination will continue tomorrow. lester? >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. >>> new protests flaring up across the country today as pro-palestinian demonstrations escalated, and more people were arrested. and with graduation season practically here, liz kreutz reports schools are making tough choices. >> we will not go! >> reporter: in an unprecedented move, the university of southern california tonight canceling this year's main commencement ceremony, attended by roughly 65,000 people, citing new safety measures put in place amid protests on campus. this stunning decision coming a day after nearly 100 protesters were arrested for trespassing after a contentious rally where pro-palestini
trump's lawyers focus on during david pecker's cross examination? >> reporter: lester, for one, that donald trump was not the only celebrity he helped squash negative stories for, in exchange for good ones. but instead, that this was a mutually beneficialy here in new relationship dating back to the '90s, when donald trump was a celebrity here in new york city. cross-examination will continue tomorrow. lester? >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. >>> new protests flaring up...
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they said he violated the gag order for calling david pecker a nice guy. judge merchan is trying to determine what to do with all this, what happens here? >> this is interesting. you have two competing interests, you have this gag order and the first amendment and it is much more important because as we've seen, the biden campaign seems to be based on two things, abortion issue and two, donald trump is a bad guy, and keep focus on donald trump and the trials and donald trump is not allowed to defend himself publicly. it is good for the biden administration. they want to focus on donald trump. i think this gag order doesn't need to be in place. the idea witnesses are in danger. point of criminal trial is protecting the defendant and their right and in this case, it is donald trump. this judge seems pretty heavy-handed, interesting how it plays out, i think anything extreme, jail or anything will not happen. >> carley: all parts of your resume. you were ice director under trump. they are urging biden to r reinstate remain in mexico. the president must act an
they said he violated the gag order for calling david pecker a nice guy. judge merchan is trying to determine what to do with all this, what happens here? >> this is interesting. you have two competing interests, you have this gag order and the first amendment and it is much more important because as we've seen, the biden campaign seems to be based on two things, abortion issue and two, donald trump is a bad guy, and keep focus on donald trump and the trials and donald trump is not...
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>> oh, david pecker is the star witness for the people. and that may be a bold statement because so far he's been the only witness, but there are a few points why he must be. number one, they never would have called him first if he wasn't a solid witness. and number two, who isn't fascinated by this expose of how tabloid checkbook journalism works. i found it fascinating, and if you're fascinated as a juror, you're definitely listening. point three, he's part of a character i call a skoundological in that he's unabashed, unashamed of what he does. when you have witnesses like that, jurors kind of like them. they realize they are who they are, and they will listen to them and find them credible. as to that credibility, he has somewhat less credibility issues than michael cohen. so i think a very effective witness for the state and a really tough witness to cross for the defense. >> we don't use the word scoundrel enough in our coverage enough, danny cevallos. thank you for joining us and giving us new vocab words. >>> still ahead we'll look
>> oh, david pecker is the star witness for the people. and that may be a bold statement because so far he's been the only witness, but there are a few points why he must be. number one, they never would have called him first if he wasn't a solid witness. and number two, who isn't fascinated by this expose of how tabloid checkbook journalism works. i found it fascinating, and if you're fascinated as a juror, you're definitely listening. point three, he's part of a character i call a...
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david pecker says yes. and in fact that another place david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david pecker says, that's correct. >> i thought that was a very skillful cross-examining and a good read write and even even better you should have taken that law school but anyway but isn't the answer. so what ultimately you know, he he covered up for other celebrities. they weren't running for president. he didn't pay $150,000.01 hover over an array. >> arnold schwarzenegger he ran for governor at some point, but we don't know when or what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. >> this was so different from all those other search. >> i'm not saying you're wrong from what i was told by people in the courtroom today, it was very similar what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. in fact, there was a lot of examination today on, on his schwarzenegger
david pecker says yes. and in fact that another place david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david pecker says, that's correct. >> i thought that was a very skillful cross-examining and a good read write and even even better you should have taken that law school but anyway but isn't the answer. so what ultimately...
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but first, we start in new york where david pecker testified foa the third day. it i os less clear is the trial wears on as what is the crime? >> today was a breathtaking. and amazing testimony. this is a trial that should never happen. this is a case that should have never been filed. >> laura: joining me now is" todd piro, coanchor of "fox & friends first," i know you were in the courtroom today. you were witnessing and whatwers the take away today? >> i can't answer the crime is. we havlarse said legal cannot sy what the crime is to be in the courtroom and watch hour upon hour of testimony my still don't have an answer. to me, we have had nine years ou trump bad and in court, he had eight more hours of trump bad. i still don't know what the crime is. >> laura: when you watch the jury in the courtroom, are they riveted? are there eyes and attention seem to wonder? i'm so jealous you got to be in the courtroom he would give us a since of a bird's-eye view. >> i was was in the overflow ron i wasn't where the jury was pure to put to that point, i made a number of
but first, we start in new york where david pecker testified foa the third day. it i os less clear is the trial wears on as what is the crime? >> today was a breathtaking. and amazing testimony. this is a trial that should never happen. this is a case that should have never been filed. >> laura: joining me now is" todd piro, coanchor of "fox & friends first," i know you were in the courtroom today. you were witnessing and whatwers the take away today? >> i...
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they established that david pecker still likes donald trump. and that's a good thing because you have michael cohen and other people who very clearly have to be viewed with at least some questions about the personal animus that will come up on cross. here the jury was treated to a very simple fact, this guy this was transactional. he says nothing personal against him, just business. and that makes him a stronger witness against trump. >> yes. >> after the direct examination of david pecker concluded today, the cross-examination started, so the trump lawyers got to start asking david pecker hostile questions effectively and that had some really interesting stuff. we'll be looking at that right after this. stay with us. ng at that right after this stay with us have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thousands of people sell their policies for cash. even term policies. i can't believe
they established that david pecker still likes donald trump. and that's a good thing because you have michael cohen and other people who very clearly have to be viewed with at least some questions about the personal animus that will come up on cross. here the jury was treated to a very simple fact, this guy this was transactional. he says nothing personal against him, just business. and that makes him a stronger witness against trump. >> yes. >> after the direct examination of david...
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a like, how can you do like,n vid >> w like david pecker is now in the new . is it? it's crazyaz. i don't know. i won't. i, i always assume everything's off the record. everyone, especially the worldwide. well, like, even sometimes watching , i'll look into the camera and go, look, this is the kind of stuff i'm talkinf m andy s thf g about. i got to move on. that's very funny. but still reads prompter. tuo, they need a lot back. gt first. it's got to be the rapid grasp. your to see the law. i'm giving you a stronger law, i'm giving you a stronger law, miller bm... to build a rapid grasp today. feeding puppies your bathroom needs for small spaces.thro the always on odor fighting air freshener. you seom st and forget no outles use no batteries needed, no effort requiree small d, so your bathroom stays continuously fresh for 45 days. that's the power for small spaces. >> celebrate her with emeralds. no. mother's day stone. the jewelry exchange has diamond and emerald pendants. more 79 rings and earrings, 249 or diamonds, one carat, three stone rings and studs. 599 two pure at 1490 bu
a like, how can you do like,n vid >> w like david pecker is now in the new . is it? it's crazyaz. i don't know. i won't. i, i always assume everything's off the record. everyone, especially the worldwide. well, like, even sometimes watching , i'll look into the camera and go, look, this is the kind of stuff i'm talkinf m andy s thf g about. i got to move on. that's very funny. but still reads prompter. tuo, they need a lot back. gt first. it's got to be the rapid grasp. your to see the...
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i felt like david pecker encapsulates maga world. he keeps drifting and completely dupes his followers, but then they said there and they still pay homage to him. talk about whether or not you think that this trial, even so far, has been moving the needle in any way in terms of public sentiment when it comes to donald trump. >> yeah, it reminds me of a story i was told by a new yorker whose parents worked for donald trump's contractors. he wasn't always good about paying the contractors and i said, did he pay her parents? he said no, and this guy said i had to sue to get their money. i said okay, well, they got $.50 on the dollar back in the guy says you know what? they voted for trump. why if they believe he cheated them on their money? he said because, if you cheat says he will cheat everybody else on behalf of america, cheat the rest of the world on behalf of america. there is an interesting dynamic. it's a view, of him as somebody who is able to manipulate the system to work the system, bypass the system, whatever it is, that see
i felt like david pecker encapsulates maga world. he keeps drifting and completely dupes his followers, but then they said there and they still pay homage to him. talk about whether or not you think that this trial, even so far, has been moving the needle in any way in terms of public sentiment when it comes to donald trump. >> yeah, it reminds me of a story i was told by a new yorker whose parents worked for donald trump's contractors. he wasn't always good about paying the contractors...
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david pecker and trump. that the conversation during which and said trump said to him, yet again, how is karen? >> is the implication of "house or girl," and "how's karen?" is she holding to agreement? >> is she and is she happy with what you've offered. talked on direct about the fact that karen mcdougal thought this was a serious arrangement. she was trying to forward her career and wanted to do red carpet interviews, she wanted to write columns in some of the fitness magazines, so at one point, david pecker has her come to new york and they have a meeting where he hears her out about her various complaints about her contractual arrangement with american media. why? he wants to come in his words, keep her in the family. hold her close. >> it's sad and sordid. i did think, as i was reading our notes on the internal slack , because we don't have the transcript, that the john edwards case is like, the closest parallel we have particularly because that ended up in acquittal, because that was this question of w
david pecker and trump. that the conversation during which and said trump said to him, yet again, how is karen? >> is the implication of "house or girl," and "how's karen?" is she holding to agreement? >> is she and is she happy with what you've offered. talked on direct about the fact that karen mcdougal thought this was a serious arrangement. she was trying to forward her career and wanted to do red carpet interviews, she wanted to write columns in some of the...