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pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so mendel, he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and when we go into a supermarket used to see the national enquirer be like, oh, my god. and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. you got the information that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to michael cohen. and this is something that i think the jury in plain terms, are able to digest and they don't know how to apply this information. but shortly after closing arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, there'll be able to put it all toge
pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable....
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and david pecker's testimony didn't help the prosecution. and it was particularly delicious, i thought, to see how uncomfortable one cnn host got when one of his guests spoke the truth about the case. >> he is taking the wind out of the prosecution's sales and said showing there was this relationship that had nothing to do with sort of a quid pro quo. >> confirm the concept of catch and kill was not talked about at the august 2015 meeting at trump tower that's correct pecker said. >> bove doing a great job of bringing out facts that undermine. >> confirm that trump and cohen did not pay story former door man at trump power tower. >> laura: well, got to interrupt when you don't want where it's going. they are getting nervous. the lawfare being waged against trump seems to be totally back firing. and so disappointed common tartsd who kind of bet the farm on this, are just left sputtering. even and this was really great this morning. offering nasty jabs after trump's sweet birthday greetings to melania. >> what they want to point out wish his w
and david pecker's testimony didn't help the prosecution. and it was particularly delicious, i thought, to see how uncomfortable one cnn host got when one of his guests spoke the truth about the case. >> he is taking the wind out of the prosecution's sales and said showing there was this relationship that had nothing to do with sort of a quid pro quo. >> confirm the concept of catch and kill was not talked about at the august 2015 meeting at trump tower that's correct pecker said....
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today was the final day of the prosecutor's first witness, david pecker. trump's lawyers continued their cross-examination, focusing on the theme that the catch and kill agreement made between pecker, trump, and trump's former lawyer michael cohen was just standard operating procedure for pecker and "national enquirer." they suggested pecker's actions were based on business considerations and he would have done them anyway whether or not he had an agreement with trump. for instance, pecker admitted to trump's lawyer that the $30,000 payment to buy the rights for the former doorman's false story that trump fathered an illegitimate child could have led to millions of dollars in sales for the "national enquirer" if true. he asked and that is why you decided to pay mr. sajudin $30,000, correct? pecker answered, yes. bovee, because you could not have him taking his story to another publication if it was true, right? pecker, that's correct. bove, it would be too great a loss to ami to lose control of such a story if it were true, right? >> yes. they had yet to e
today was the final day of the prosecutor's first witness, david pecker. trump's lawyers continued their cross-examination, focusing on the theme that the catch and kill agreement made between pecker, trump, and trump's former lawyer michael cohen was just standard operating procedure for pecker and "national enquirer." they suggested pecker's actions were based on business considerations and he would have done them anyway whether or not he had an agreement with trump. for instance,...
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pecker this week? >> lester, pecker is a useful witness for prosecutors to the extent he can testify about conversations about mr. trump that touch on his alleged scheme to influence the election, but what he can't offer, lester, is any evidence on the actual crime that the former president has been indicted for, which isn't a campaign finance violation. it's the way his payments to cohen were documented on his internal records. now, we'll see if other witnesses can speak more directly to that, lester. >> okay, laura, thank you. >>> president biden was also in new york today giving a rare interview to radio host howard stern and making news about whether he'll debate mr. trump. peter alexander joins us. what did he say? >> reporter: for months he refused to say whether he will agree to a faceoff with former president trump, but today he told howard stern, i'm, quote, happy to debate him, though he didn't say when or how many times. it would be a dramatic sequel to their feisty debates four years ago. o
pecker this week? >> lester, pecker is a useful witness for prosecutors to the extent he can testify about conversations about mr. trump that touch on his alleged scheme to influence the election, but what he can't offer, lester, is any evidence on the actual crime that the former president has been indicted for, which isn't a campaign finance violation. it's the way his payments to cohen were documented on his internal records. now, we'll see if other witnesses can speak more directly to...
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for the prosecution is david pecker saying that he sought legal advice on behalf of his company. that if he continued to do this kind of payment, that it was going to be a campaign violation. that is absolute gold for the prosecution. >> margaret: and robert costa joins us now. bob, it's hard to believe that it is news, it used to be expected, that two candidates trying to persuade voters would come out and debate to defend their policy positions. but now, this was news today that they are considering it. will it happen? >> reporter: president biden went on the howard stern radio show and he said he would be willing to debate former president donald trump. trump responded quickly and said anytime, anyplace, maybe even at the white house. >> margaret: we will see if it happens. bob, thank you. pro-palestinian protests emerged on more college campuses today, and not all of the demonstrators have links to the schools where the protests are underway. that adds to scrutiny of the movement, and we get details from cbs's lilia luciano. >> reporter: protesters and police clashed at ohio
for the prosecution is david pecker saying that he sought legal advice on behalf of his company. that if he continued to do this kind of payment, that it was going to be a campaign violation. that is absolute gold for the prosecution. >> margaret: and robert costa joins us now. bob, it's hard to believe that it is news, it used to be expected, that two candidates trying to persuade voters would come out and debate to defend their policy positions. but now, this was news today that they...
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i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were hearing about just as the testimony was ending today and explain that difference. now, there's why it is that the national enquirer wasn't paying for this third and final scheme with respect to stormy daniels, but it had to be paid for by michael cohen. so i think that is a very important new detail that we heard that helped flesh out the scheme that we, the basics of which we knew about your book breaks down the very colorful cast of characters in this specific case, but not necessarily trump's assisted rhona graff and michael cohen's banker, gary farro. these lower profile voices set up the
i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were...
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. >> david pecker, the ceo of america media inc. giving bombshell testimony. >> pecker tells him, quote, we committed campaign violation. he said he wasn't worried because, quote, jeff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. >> david pecker acknowledged that he did this catch and kill with karen mcdougall for the benefit of the trump campaign. >> the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions. >> senior vice president of the trump organization and donald trump's former long-time assistant described as the gatekeeper. his right hand. her lawyers are being paid for by donald trump. >> you heard that word, gatekeeper. the gatekeepers and supposed allies and friends are talking under oath. the da's getting details out of them to bolster the opening argument where the jury was told cases about a criminal conspiracy and a cover up. tabloid veteran david pecker has been admitting that. he recounts his dealings with trump lawyer turned star witness michael cohen to buy and bury st
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david pecker is not foreign to me. what he's talking about is not foreign to me, but i think for the larger public, to hear what really goes on, particularly with that kind of tabloid newspaper i think is fascinating. also, let's not forget, we are talking about a former president who is in court over hush-money payments, who has been found liable for fraud and for sexual assault, who could it be in washington for the immunity hearing from when he was president. this guy is going to -- has been spending more time in court than on the campaign trail to run for reelection. i think what makes this week and this case so fascinating is that we are watching this guy be held accountable for at least a sliver of what he has allegedly done. amna: in the new york case, he is now violated the gag order a total of 15 times. jonathan: and counting. amna: is there any way for president trump to be reigned in on that front? david: i think his entire administration tried to do that for four years and it didn't work. jonathan: no. amna
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trump has not criticized david pecker at all. i want to ask you before you go, because yesterday we saw i made a major court ruling completely separate from the trump case also on a subject that you've broken a lot of stories about and you think it could ultimately manner for trump the new york court of appeals overturned harvey weinstein's 2020 eviction for sex crimes basically, the court said that the lower court made a mistake by allowing women to testify about allegations of sexual assault that we're separate from the three for which he was actually charged in that case, you are at the forefront of investigating, reporting a multitude of allegations against weinstein. you say this ruling could come back to haunt trump's judge juan merchan in trump's trial, explain well, it illuminates a shared legal issue that is at the heart of both of these cases of course, for activists and for survivors of harvey weinstein's alleged crimes it's an anguished moment, to hear that one of his conviction was overturned on essentially a questio
trump has not criticized david pecker at all. i want to ask you before you go, because yesterday we saw i made a major court ruling completely separate from the trump case also on a subject that you've broken a lot of stories about and you think it could ultimately manner for trump the new york court of appeals overturned harvey weinstein's 2020 eviction for sex crimes basically, the court said that the lower court made a mistake by allowing women to testify about allegations of sexual assault...
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the answer from david pecker, quote, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so it was not published by any other news organization. pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend or to use as leverage with a celebrity, this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now with court adjourned for the weekend, it's all systems go as we head into next week with key testimony still ahead. this is where we start the hour with some of our most favorite reports and friends. two people inside the courtroom today, investigative reporter susan craig and former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general harry litman. lucky for us, andrew is still here as is lockland. sue, we start with you and your wonderful notebook. >> i have to say i think the most interesting part of today was the contination of that agreement that karen mcdougal had. donald trump's lawyers really tried to muddy the water on it. put some poison in the ear that karen mcdougal got someth
the answer from david pecker, quote, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so it was not published by any other news organization. pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend or to use as leverage with a celebrity, this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now with court adjourned for the weekend, it's all systems go as we head into next week with key testimony still ahead. this is where we start the hour with some of...
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she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the implication. i don't think it actually is that potent of an observation. i don't i doubt we're going to hear from that lawyer in the course of this trial, which would be necessary to actually make that useful. >> let's let's go to our attorneys outside the room right now. i'll start with bill brennan. what's your what's your big takeaway from today if anything or if you want to look at the week in general, if if any gloves were laid on mr. trump or not? >> jake, i really don't think so. i heard on kush layout a scenario and certainly he could be correct with regard to actions taken in furtherance of a
she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the...
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. >> nueva declaracion del ex exeditor de medios, david pecker, en el primer juicio c criminal contra donald trump en nueva york, precedida de la i intervencion de los abogados del expresidente. >> la reza de las protestas estudiantiles contra la guerra en gaza, a las manifestaciones en mas de 30 campus, se suma a la universidad del sur de california, donde hubo un ce centenar de arrestos y se suspende la ceremonia de g graduacion. >> graduacion. >> tragedia de los migrantes, los padres de dos ninas venezolanas que murieron al caerse de la bestia comparten la pesadilla que estan viviendo. >> quiero hacer una politica que nunca deje de emocionarse. >> emocionados. >> cuando te vuelves una no sientes como shemba ¿de hielo, creo que pierdes el foco. >> faltando muy poco para el segundo debate presidencial en mexico y en entrevista galvez habla sobre su principe rival con suarez y octavio pulido muy buenas nicole pulido. >> nicole la tarde. >> llega la nuevo el testimonio del exeditor del national e enquirer, david pecker, por cuarto dia consecutivo en el juicio de nueva york contra dona
. >> nueva declaracion del ex exeditor de medios, david pecker, en el primer juicio c criminal contra donald trump en nueva york, precedida de la i intervencion de los abogados del expresidente. >> la reza de las protestas estudiantiles contra la guerra en gaza, a las manifestaciones en mas de 30 campus, se suma a la universidad del sur de california, donde hubo un ce centenar de arrestos y se suspende la ceremonia de g graduacion. >> graduacion. >> tragedia de los...
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david pecker dice que Él no pagÓ el cheque si no un departamento de la revista. los abogados de trump trajeron a colaciÓn otros temas con otras celebridades, para normalizar la conducta, el negocio que habÍa hecho donald trump con esta revista para ocultar estas historias, a travÉs de pagos. ♪ ♪ [mÚsica] ♪ ♪ [mÚsica] carolina: los fiscales de varios estados republicanos han presentado una demanda contra la comisiÓn de igualdad de el empleo. van en contra de una ley que obliga a los empleadores a ofrecer ajustes razonables a las trabajadoras embarazadas, incluyendo un permiso para abortar. republicanos dicen que infringen leyes estatales existentes. la empresa matriz de tiktok negÓ los planes de renderos la plataforma, tras la prohibiciÓn en estados unidos. ——la empresa matriz de tiktok negÓ los planes de vender la plataforma, tras la prohibiciÓn en estados unidos. un programa podrÍa ayudar a la comunidad a obtener la ciudadanÍa estadounidense. organizaciones tendrÍan que ayudar a los inmigrantes para llenar formularios, entre otros trÁmi
david pecker dice que Él no pagÓ el cheque si no un departamento de la revista. los abogados de trump trajeron a colaciÓn otros temas con otras celebridades, para normalizar la conducta, el negocio que habÍa hecho donald trump con esta revista para ocultar estas historias, a travÉs de pagos. ♪ ♪ [mÚsica] ♪ ♪ [mÚsica] carolina: los fiscales de varios estados republicanos han presentado una demanda contra la comisiÓn de igualdad de el empleo. van en contra de una ley que obliga a...
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david pecker and the national inquirerer. it seems like at some point we're going to get hope hicks whos was a member of the campaign and then the white house. and somebody who worked as a lawyer in the white house. what are you thinking? >> i think one thing i'm thinking is this is something we should actually celebrate in a way because it's our system working. what we're witnessing here is a court, which is the place that we go in our society to determine what is true, when it's contested, hearing evidence and weighing it under rules that are designed to protect everybody's rights. one of the things that has happened a lot in recent years in american politics is we have had a bit of anything goes in the truth in the court of public opinion. that's hard to pull off in the court of law. so to have this week a split screen in which in mand a former president is being treated like any other citizen in our society with all the protections afforded to them, having facts put out and a jury will decide his fate, at the same time wh
david pecker and the national inquirerer. it seems like at some point we're going to get hope hicks whos was a member of the campaign and then the white house. and somebody who worked as a lawyer in the white house. what are you thinking? >> i think one thing i'm thinking is this is something we should actually celebrate in a way because it's our system working. what we're witnessing here is a court, which is the place that we go in our society to determine what is true, when it's...
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trump had with former national enquirer publisher david pecker. pecker faced cross-examination today, and he testified about a scheme that he says he developed with trump to suppress negative news stories about trump when he was a candidate in 2016, and then keep them hidden during the presidency, leading us off this hour, nbc news correspondent rehema ellis outside the courthouse in lower manhattan. rehema, i know this is just starting. why do we think the prosecution called graf and what might they ask her going on to this just within the last hour? well, graf, you might say, might be described as the gatekeeper for donald trump. she was with him, as you point out, for 34 years. she retired only in 2021. right now, her legal representatives are being paid for by the trump organization. these are two lawyers who are still on the trump team. and in addition, she said she sat right outside his office on the 27th floor on fifth avenue. she also said that she was the one who would take care of emails and contact lists, and in particular, now two name
trump had with former national enquirer publisher david pecker. pecker faced cross-examination today, and he testified about a scheme that he says he developed with trump to suppress negative news stories about trump when he was a candidate in 2016, and then keep them hidden during the presidency, leading us off this hour, nbc news correspondent rehema ellis outside the courthouse in lower manhattan. rehema, i know this is just starting. why do we think the prosecution called graf and what...
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and look, david pecker is someone who has come off on the stand as reliable, as truthful. he said he doesn't harbour any ill will towards donald trump even now. he had a decades long relationship with him. they had a mutually beneficial relationship. and obviously, he then decided to cooperate with prosecutors. and while the defence understood that and didn't come out attacking him in the same way, they have michael cohen, donald trump's former lawyer, they did try to kind of poke holes in the prosecution's narrative. they tried to cast this whole catch and kill alleged scheme as a business decision, as david pecker as someone who was cooperating with prosecutors at the time because he was worried that a deal with his tabloid and another big media company to be acquired would fall through. but look, in every kind of instance, the prosecution came back on redirect and had mr pepper reiterate that this was all done on redirect and had mr pecker reiterate that this was all done to help donald trump's campaign. and so looking at the morning session, the defence didn't do reall
and look, david pecker is someone who has come off on the stand as reliable, as truthful. he said he doesn't harbour any ill will towards donald trump even now. he had a decades long relationship with him. they had a mutually beneficial relationship. and obviously, he then decided to cooperate with prosecutors. and while the defence understood that and didn't come out attacking him in the same way, they have michael cohen, donald trump's former lawyer, they did try to kind of poke holes in the...
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former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse, former federal prosecutor paul butler is back with me. former assistant new york attorney general tristan snell is in studio, and jeremy soland, criminal defense attorney and former manhattan prosecutor. i'm going to start with you because you're a defense attorney and you're new to this table. it's a challenge, right, no matter how many times the defense keeps going back and back and back to david pecker, trying to show this wasn't about the campaign, which is what you did, this is standard operating procedure, they said that over and
former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard...
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the prosecution will resume its redirect a former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker welcome to our two of america reports i am sandra smith in new york. >> john: i am don roberts in washington with court testimony resuming. the former president's legal team wrapped up with pecker earlier today he tried to poke holes in the testimony by pointing out some contradictions and inconsistencies. we have heard from trump once today before the court began, listen to this. >> we are doing very well in this ring to trial and everybody knows it. i think yesterday went very well. in the courthouse, it should be over. the case is over. you heard what was said, the case should be over. but you will have to make that determination and i think this judge will never allow the case to be held in. >> sandra: reaction to that in a moment. they will be here all our to help digest the news coming in from the courthouse. our own lower income will be joining us. that is just moments away. >> john: nate foy outside the supreme court would we expect when they get underway in a few minutes? >> john, th
the prosecution will resume its redirect a former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker welcome to our two of america reports i am sandra smith in new york. >> john: i am don roberts in washington with court testimony resuming. the former president's legal team wrapped up with pecker earlier today he tried to poke holes in the testimony by pointing out some contradictions and inconsistencies. we have heard from trump once today before the court began, listen to this....
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again, the focus that david pecker is here to tell the story that, number one, they used david pecker and the "national enquirer" to influence the 2016 election and that, number two, that they sought after these negative stories alleging extramarital affairs with donald trump in order to keep them from the american public before november of 2016, chris. >> okay. paul, trump's defense drilled in again today into the words standard in questioning pecker, they drew that running negative stories like one on trump's opponents was standard because it was good for business, but in redirect, steinglass also now honed in on that term. he asked is it standard to be negotiating with a presidential candidate's fixer on an agreement and is a $1 million liquidated damages clause on a $30,000 source agreement standard operating procedure. who's being more effective on the use of the word standard and why does it matter so much? >> so i think they were both making decent points. this trial is about trump's motive in arranging this hush money payment, hush money payments aren't illegal unless you're d
again, the focus that david pecker is here to tell the story that, number one, they used david pecker and the "national enquirer" to influence the 2016 election and that, number two, that they sought after these negative stories alleging extramarital affairs with donald trump in order to keep them from the american public before november of 2016, chris. >> okay. paul, trump's defense drilled in again today into the words standard in questioning pecker, they drew that running...
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he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker testified that there was that he had a conversation so what donald trump donald trump thanked him for taking care of the doorman's story in the karen mcdougal story so donald trump's attorneys pressed him on notes from previous interview had given with investigators. and in that interview notes he said, according to the fbi's nodes, that david pecker told them that donald trump did not express any gratitude david pecker dug in on that today saying that the fbi knows were wrong and that his testimony over the past few days is that correct accurate testimony? so a lot of back and forth over different
he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker...
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pecker's testimony in one of the things is that david pecker had previously told the fbi that donald trump never thanked him for any of the good stories, killing the karen mcdougal story and the dormant story but yesterday on the stand david said he had. these are some of the inconsistencies he pointed out to say maybe he is not as credible as the state would like him to be. >> sandra: all right, carrie, outside the courthouse for us as we expect this will resume shortly we are keeping an eye on that and will get back to that. by the way, john, big guest joining us live. she is a spokesperson for the trump legal team and she has said on the record in recent days during this trial that she is doubtful the court and the jury are going to do the right thing in this trial. she will join us with her thoughts on the latest developments, john. >> john: and with the legal eagles yesterday all the prosecution has to do is convince the jury that something bad happened here. even if there was no underlying crime. it would be good to be talking to alina coming up and as college campuses coming u
pecker's testimony in one of the things is that david pecker had previously told the fbi that donald trump never thanked him for any of the good stories, killing the karen mcdougal story and the dormant story but yesterday on the stand david said he had. these are some of the inconsistencies he pointed out to say maybe he is not as credible as the state would like him to be. >> sandra: all right, carrie, outside the courthouse for us as we expect this will resume shortly we are keeping an...
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let's talk about the role of david pecker. his credibility, once it's evaluated by the jurors -- he was the first witness and the feature witness of the trial so far -- is to take some of the burden to of michael cohen, who is obviously -- has damage connected to him being convicted and having admitted to perjury in the past and served time for that. >> right. that's baked into the calculation with michael cohen. he is a difficult witness. the government can't hug him too hard. he was donald trump's pick not prosecutor's pick. we are seeing this process that defense lawyer goes through in cross-examination. as vaughn said, they can't argue the evidence when they are cross-examining the witness. they are collecting coins that they hope will turn out to be valuable in closing argument when they can go back and argue to the jury. you can't really believe these people, they are not credible. >> the other thing, catherine, is this gag order hearing. judge merchan set it for next thursday. that's another week before dealing with the
let's talk about the role of david pecker. his credibility, once it's evaluated by the jurors -- he was the first witness and the feature witness of the trial so far -- is to take some of the burden to of michael cohen, who is obviously -- has damage connected to him being convicted and having admitted to perjury in the past and served time for that. >> right. that's baked into the calculation with michael cohen. he is a difficult witness. the government can't hug him too hard. he was...
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i was in the court for most the morning, and three ba themes emerged from david pecker. the first witness. the first main one was about memory. as you know as an attorney that the statute of limitations exist for a reason. because our memories reign over time. that is the reason this case, should have been tossed out a while ago because so many years have passed. so what the defense did today, without attacking a man in his 70s for not remembering is really poking holes in david pecker's recollection of key events. keep in mind yesterday was elicited on cross-examination that he was prepped by the prosecution multiple times throughout the course of his preparation for his testimony here and that is why his testimony was pretty good yesterday when it came to his direct examination but not as good as cross-examination. because again the defense attorney for trump's poking holes in his testimony. the second thing that stuck out to me is the juxtaposition. capitalism versus campaign. they were eliciting throughout the course of the testimony today, but a lot of the things th
i was in the court for most the morning, and three ba themes emerged from david pecker. the first witness. the first main one was about memory. as you know as an attorney that the statute of limitations exist for a reason. because our memories reign over time. that is the reason this case, should have been tossed out a while ago because so many years have passed. so what the defense did today, without attacking a man in his 70s for not remembering is really poking holes in david pecker's...
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prosecutors say it was part of a criminal conspiracy to influence the election, david pecker outlined a few of these kind of schemes, as he put it, and he said he worked with prosecutors, he admitted to committing crimes in a nonprescription agreement, so you agree to cooperate with prosecutors if he wasn't charged with any wrongdoing. the defence is trying to poke holes in the prosecution's case. they have gotten david pecker on the stand to say it was standing procedure for a tabloid to work to kill negative stories. they had done so for almost all snag a and tiger woods. they got david packer on the stand to say it made national sense for the national inquiry to do it, it wasn'tjust about for the national inquiry to do it, it wasn't just about helping donald trump's campaign, it was a mutually beneficial relationship. the cross examination will continue, but one legal expert i spoke to said the defence has two hurdles to clear. the fact that david pecker understand admitted to wrongdoing to campaignfinance understand admitted to wrongdoing to campaign finance regulations, and the f
prosecutors say it was part of a criminal conspiracy to influence the election, david pecker outlined a few of these kind of schemes, as he put it, and he said he worked with prosecutors, he admitted to committing crimes in a nonprescription agreement, so you agree to cooperate with prosecutors if he wasn't charged with any wrongdoing. the defence is trying to poke holes in the prosecution's case. they have gotten david pecker on the stand to say it was standing procedure for a tabloid to work...
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david pecker responded, that's right. of course, at the heart of the charges here, falsifying business records, is specifically the stormy daniels payment and the reimbursement of michael cohen by donald trump. and what david pecker is now saying is that he never intended to be a part of the stormy daniels story here in the first place. another aspect of this here is the fact that they are going through some of the prior meetings that david pecker had testified about. one of them that they're currently discussing now is david pecker on january of 2017 walking into a trump tower meeting, just weeks before donald trump was sworn in as president, a meeting that included the likes of reince priebus, sean spicer and james comey and they're getting into the gritty details of exactly what david pecker's role is a part of all of these meetings was and the extent to which donald trump was using these opportunities to ensure the silence of some of these key figures. jose? >> this is a continuing issue, this meeting and as well as o
david pecker responded, that's right. of course, at the heart of the charges here, falsifying business records, is specifically the stormy daniels payment and the reimbursement of michael cohen by donald trump. and what david pecker is now saying is that he never intended to be a part of the stormy daniels story here in the first place. another aspect of this here is the fact that they are going through some of the prior meetings that david pecker had testified about. one of them that they're...
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david pecker ends how he started on the witness stand. right now trump's team continues their cross examination. pecker to remind you is the former ceo of american media. his testimony this week mostly focusing on a quote, catch and kill scheme to buy stories about his then friend donald trump without publishing them effectively keeping them hidden. atactic he used for other celebrities, too. separately bragg's team accused former president trump of violating his gag order four more times. that's in addition to the ten claims already made, by the way. prosecutors meantime want the judge to fine trump and hold him in contempt for every one of those. a hearing on the gag order is set for thursday, may two, trump speaking this morning before entering the courtroom. >> we're doing very well in this trial. everybody knows it. yesterday was a big day. yesterday went very well in this courthouse. it should be over. the case is over. you heard what was said and the case should be over. but you will have to make that determination. i think we have
david pecker ends how he started on the witness stand. right now trump's team continues their cross examination. pecker to remind you is the former ceo of american media. his testimony this week mostly focusing on a quote, catch and kill scheme to buy stories about his then friend donald trump without publishing them effectively keeping them hidden. atactic he used for other celebrities, too. separately bragg's team accused former president trump of violating his gag order four more times....
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of david pecker. is that a violation of the gag order? >> they're holding their ammunition. i think -- >> are they trying to influence david pecker? >> when i was a young watergate prosecutor, i thought we had won the battle that no one is above the law and i thought that that was last in memorial. now, trump is violating the gag order. i don't think it is a closed question. the difficulty is what is the judge going to do about it and the d.a. said we're not asking for incarceration. so what is the judge going to do? he has to follow the law. if my client did something like that, they would be in jail, i mean, there would be a hearing, handcuffs on before they ever have a hearing. what the judge is going to do incarceration, i just don't think is a realistic option. it would make trump a martyr. >> and so, politically, what do you think trump wants the judge to do? i mean, trump is trying to use this gag order politically to his benefit, right, richard? and is he trying to egg the judge to try to inca
of david pecker. is that a violation of the gag order? >> they're holding their ammunition. i think -- >> are they trying to influence david pecker? >> when i was a young watergate prosecutor, i thought we had won the battle that no one is above the law and i thought that that was last in memorial. now, trump is violating the gag order. i don't think it is a closed question. the difficulty is what is the judge going to do about it and the d.a. said we're not asking for...
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what is the jury to do with this latest david pecker testimony? >> well, i think the problem is that from the prosecution standpoint, they are trying to convince the jury that there is this scheme to steal the election and that this deal is a component of it. to me, the trump defense should be there was nothing illegal about this deal and would i would be more concerned about, the more they go at pecker and cross-examine about this but conveys to the jury they must be being hurt by it why else testing pecker's testimony the way they are doing? i must say, shannon, i would have been tempted to do a very short cross examination of pecker, like five or ten minutes to get across to the jury that nothing he testified to -- the longer they go after this the more impression it is hurt by it and maybe bragg's theory is right. maybe part of a big conspiracy. >> shannon: you think they should wrap it up with this witness. we talked earlier about the fact the defense team has been pushing for more information which witnesses with coming next but hesitation t
what is the jury to do with this latest david pecker testimony? >> well, i think the problem is that from the prosecution standpoint, they are trying to convince the jury that there is this scheme to steal the election and that this deal is a component of it. to me, the trump defense should be there was nothing illegal about this deal and would i would be more concerned about, the more they go at pecker and cross-examine about this but conveys to the jury they must be being hurt by it why...
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david pecker helps with that a lot. he talks about a lot of conversations between him and michael cohen. michael cohen is likely going to say, i talked to david pecker. here's what we said. and if the prosecutors get what they want, it will be consistent. >> george: they'll probably put hope hicks in there as well. >> exactly. they can back up everything of michael cohen before he comes in so the stage has been set. >> george: let's turn to the supreme court. looks like yesterday donald trump lost one battle but won a bigger war. >> look, his attorney gave up on this absolute immunity argument. right? which was always silly, this idea that no matter what you do as president, private or public conduct, you are immuned. his attorney conceding we're not talking about private conduct. why is he doing that? because this is going to make it much more likely that it's going to take a longer time as things move forward. if you view the goal of the trump team as delay, it was the smartest thing they could do. >> george: right. t
david pecker helps with that a lot. he talks about a lot of conversations between him and michael cohen. michael cohen is likely going to say, i talked to david pecker. here's what we said. and if the prosecutors get what they want, it will be consistent. >> george: they'll probably put hope hicks in there as well. >> exactly. they can back up everything of michael cohen before he comes in so the stage has been set. >> george: let's turn to the supreme court. looks like...
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david pecker's cross examination continues today. what else should trump's team do to try to explain to the jury that this was not illegal? >> they are doing a good job largely allowing the case to collapse on its own weight. this case thus far is about a good a model as prosecution as the titanic is a good model for navigation. i don't understand why they would start with pecker. in my view he is disastrous. first of all, i'm speaking as a criminal defense attorney. what most good prosecutors, if they know the criminal defense attorney will bring up something damaging will bring it up themselves. the most damaging aspect of pecker's testimony is that he did the same thing for a wide variety of celebrities. that is really quite damaging. and by not revealing that to the jury in your direct, there is a sense that there was a hiding of the ball here. you can lose credibility with the jury. that is really quite remarkable. pecker said that he was doing this for trump decades before he ran for office. he said he did this for people like
david pecker's cross examination continues today. what else should trump's team do to try to explain to the jury that this was not illegal? >> they are doing a good job largely allowing the case to collapse on its own weight. this case thus far is about a good a model as prosecution as the titanic is a good model for navigation. i don't understand why they would start with pecker. in my view he is disastrous. first of all, i'm speaking as a criminal defense attorney. what most good...
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david pecker back on the stand to resume testimony for the fourth day. pecker, still a friend of the president, even though they have not talked for a while. he talked about the catch and kill deal and recalled exchanging tips and killing stories as far back as 1998, practice the defense shows was just ordinary. >> today was breathtaking in this room 678. you saw what went on. it was breathtaking, amazing testimony. this is really incredible. it was an incredible day. open your eyes. >> pecker said he bought stories to kill about alleged affairs by arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods, so when karen mcdougal popped up about her affair, peck er bought that and buried it, too. we did not want this story to embarrass mr. trump or hurt the campaign. he feared he was violating election law. he turned down paying for stormy daniels story she had sex with trump because he said he did not want the enquirer to deal with a porn star. he related how after mr. trump was president, he thanked him for handling karen mcdougal and invited pecker and some editors to the wh
david pecker back on the stand to resume testimony for the fourth day. pecker, still a friend of the president, even though they have not talked for a while. he talked about the catch and kill deal and recalled exchanging tips and killing stories as far back as 1998, practice the defense shows was just ordinary. >> today was breathtaking in this room 678. you saw what went on. it was breathtaking, amazing testimony. this is really incredible. it was an incredible day. open your eyes....
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today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting to see, like you said, sarah, who is the next witness, is it someone who deals with the accounting inside ami or within the trump organization or is it michael cohen, another quite arguably the star witness for the prosecution so we'll have to wait and see. of course, we don't know because they are not giving away that witness lists or rather the order of that witness list. this ahead of time because of the fear that donald trump will post about them on social media and such. so we'll standby all right. >> brand jin grass standing by for court to resume. appre
today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting...
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former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker. >> been very nice. he's been -- david's been very nice. nice guy. >> reporter: trump has known pecker for decades and it's alleged that they along with former trump lawyer michael cohen engaged in conspiracy to suppress negative stories about trump as he ran for president in 2016. picker told jurors after the "access hollywood" tape surfaced weeks before the election, discussions about what to do with stormy daniels heated up. the adult film star was, allegedly, shopping the story, and pecker testified he didn't have the $120,000 she wanted so he told cohen to buy and bury her story, saying if he didn't and the story gets out, the boss is going to be very angry with you. >> the da's case is really rises and falls with david pecker's testimony because he is the linchpin behind their theory of this sort of conspiratorial scheme to influence the election. >> reporter: pecker also testified about an agreement with former "playboy" model karen mcdougal who says she had a ten-month affair with trump which he
former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker. >> been very nice. he's been -- david's been very nice. nice guy. >> reporter: trump has known pecker for decades and it's alleged that they along with former trump lawyer michael cohen engaged in conspiracy to suppress negative stories about trump as he ran for president in 2016. picker told jurors after the "access hollywood" tape surfaced weeks before the election, discussions about what to do with stormy...
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are unlawful david pecker says, yes. steinglass says, did either you or ami ever report to the federal election commission that ami had made a donation to of care, a payment to karen mcdougal. pecker says, we did not sign. glas says, why did ami and make this purchase of karen mcdougal story? pecker says, we purchased a story so it won't be published by any or other organization steinglass asked why did you not want it to be published by any other organization? pecker says, i didn't want we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign? hurt the campaign. bradley, first to you, why that focus, how much damage did it do to trump as we approach cross this morning yeah no that. >> was the meat and bones of the prosecution's case in terms the idea that this was all tied to the campaign, that this wasn't a personal thing that wasn't what rudy giuliani is to talk about it. oh, was just disparate as family the embarrassment. >> no the entire criminal congruent between ami and donald trump thr
are unlawful david pecker says, yes. steinglass says, did either you or ami ever report to the federal election commission that ami had made a donation to of care, a payment to karen mcdougal. pecker says, we did not sign. glas says, why did ami and make this purchase of karen mcdougal story? pecker says, we purchased a story so it won't be published by any or other organization steinglass asked why did you not want it to be published by any other organization? pecker says, i didn't want we...
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and apparently david pecker was giving donald trump a heads up about that story since 1998. which was long before donald trump announced his intent to run for president. but, yeah, ainsley, i mean, it was really interesting. we learned a lot about other celebrities who have done the same thing tiger woods, rahm emanuel. former president obama's chief of staff, arnold schwarzenegger, it's a pretty common practice. >> lawrence: katkerri, the prosecutor didn't lie but the lie of omission. when they did the cross of pecker they didn't bring any of this up. it was the defense that poked holes in it how does this play on the jury. this is donald trump. out of the ordinary. does not happen. and then you have the defense come right behind them and show it was actually pretty quite frequent that this happened. >> the entire case is misleading. still unclear what this underlying crime is that donald trump is supposedly -- was supposedly trying to conceal. we talked about this all week it. feels like they are looking for it as they go. and, so, again, if they are honing in on this new
and apparently david pecker was giving donald trump a heads up about that story since 1998. which was long before donald trump announced his intent to run for president. but, yeah, ainsley, i mean, it was really interesting. we learned a lot about other celebrities who have done the same thing tiger woods, rahm emanuel. former president obama's chief of staff, arnold schwarzenegger, it's a pretty common practice. >> lawrence: katkerri, the prosecutor didn't lie but the lie of omission....
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former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker. >> he's been very nice. i mean he's been -- david's been very nice. he's a nice guy. >> reporter: trump has known pecker for decades, and prosecutors allege the pair, along with former trump lawyer michael cohen, engaged in a conspiracy to suppress negative stories about trump as he ran for president in 2016. pecker told jurors just after the "access hollywood" tape surfaced weeks before the election -- >> i just start kissing them. >> reporter: discussions about what to do with stormy daniels heated up. the adult film star was, according to pecker, shopping the story of her alleged affair with trump. pecker testified he didn't have the $120,000 she wanted, so he told cohen to buy and bury her story, saying if he didn't and the story gets out, "the boss is going to be very angry with you." >> the d.a.'s case really rises and falls with david pecker's testimony because he is the linchpin behind their theory of this sort of conspiratorial scheme to influence the election. >> reporter: pecker also testified abo
former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker. >> he's been very nice. i mean he's been -- david's been very nice. he's a nice guy. >> reporter: trump has known pecker for decades, and prosecutors allege the pair, along with former trump lawyer michael cohen, engaged in a conspiracy to suppress negative stories about trump as he ran for president in 2016. pecker told jurors just after the "access hollywood" tape surfaced weeks before the election -- >>...
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it just is not david pecker's to tell. he testified that he didn't have direct involvement in the purchase or negotiation of the stormy daniels settlement. to the extent "the enquirer" did at all, it was behind his pack. dylan howard, the chief content officer, got involved in it, even though pecker said an affiliation with a porn star will offend our largest distributor, walmart, and we don't want to get into that. but howard kept getting involved. >> from the white house, donald trump would check in on, quote, our girl, talking about karen mcdougal, and pecker would say, "she's quiet. she's fine," end quote. barbara mcquade, we've entered cross-examination. it began yesterday and will resume later today from trump's legal team. what kind of witness was david pecker for the prosecution? a good way to start? >> oh, i think he was a terrific way to start. you know, he is somebody who is -- has a story to tell. he can establish the timeline. he could begin at the beginning, in august of 2015 when this conspiracy began. and i
it just is not david pecker's to tell. he testified that he didn't have direct involvement in the purchase or negotiation of the stormy daniels settlement. to the extent "the enquirer" did at all, it was behind his pack. dylan howard, the chief content officer, got involved in it, even though pecker said an affiliation with a porn star will offend our largest distributor, walmart, and we don't want to get into that. but howard kept getting involved. >> from the white house,...
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trump continuing examination of national inquirer publisher david pecker. andy mccarthy standing by with his analysis there he is. >> brian: president biden is in the big city that's the nickname. is cl columbia university on the schedule? do you think he will go by like the speaker did? we didn't see it. >> lawrence: "fox & friends" begins right now and remember mornings are better with friends. >> ainsley: this is a fox news alert. we are following several big stories this morning. we are awaiting remarks from secretary of state blinken in beijing, fresh off his meeting with the chinese president xi. we are monitoring it and bring all of that to you live. >> brian: plus, more anti-israel protests expected today as president biden makes a stop in new york city. >> lawrence: down the road president trump's new york criminal trial resumes just hours from now. trump's defense team will continue cross-examination of david pecker. >> c.b. cotton joins us live coming up and eric shawn is live from the new york supreme court. eric, good morning. >> eric: good mor
trump continuing examination of national inquirer publisher david pecker. andy mccarthy standing by with his analysis there he is. >> brian: president biden is in the big city that's the nickname. is cl columbia university on the schedule? do you think he will go by like the speaker did? we didn't see it. >> lawrence: "fox & friends" begins right now and remember mornings are better with friends. >> ainsley: this is a fox news alert. we are following several big...
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trump's lawyers focus on during david pecker's cross examination? >> reporter: lester, for one, that donald trump was not the only celebrity he helped squash negative stories for, in exchange for good ones. but instead, that this was a mutually beneficialy here in new relationship dating back to the '90s, when donald trump was a celebrity here in new york city. cross-examination will continue tomorrow. lester? >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. >>> new protests flaring up across the country today as pro-palestinian demonstrations escalated, and more people were arrested. and with graduation season practically here, liz kreutz reports schools are making tough choices. >> we will not go! >> reporter: in an unprecedented move, the university of southern california tonight canceling this year's main commencement ceremony, attended by roughly 65,000 people, citing new safety measures put in place amid protests on campus. this stunning decision coming a day after nearly 100 protesters were arrested for trespassing after a contentious rally where pro-palestini
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they said he violated the gag order for calling david pecker a nice guy. judge merchan is trying to determine what to do with all this, what happens here? >> this is interesting. you have two competing interests, you have this gag order and the first amendment and it is much more important because as we've seen, the biden campaign seems to be based on two things, abortion issue and two, donald trump is a bad guy, and keep focus on donald trump and the trials and donald trump is not allowed to defend himself publicly. it is good for the biden administration. they want to focus on donald trump. i think this gag order doesn't need to be in place. the idea witnesses are in danger. point of criminal trial is protecting the defendant and their right and in this case, it is donald trump. this judge seems pretty heavy-handed, interesting how it plays out, i think anything extreme, jail or anything will not happen. >> carley: all parts of your resume. you were ice director under trump. they are urging biden to r reinstate remain in mexico. the president must act an
they said he violated the gag order for calling david pecker a nice guy. judge merchan is trying to determine what to do with all this, what happens here? >> this is interesting. you have two competing interests, you have this gag order and the first amendment and it is much more important because as we've seen, the biden campaign seems to be based on two things, abortion issue and two, donald trump is a bad guy, and keep focus on donald trump and the trials and donald trump is not...
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>> oh, david pecker is the star witness for the people. and that may be a bold statement because so far he's been the only witness, but there are a few points why he must be. number one, they never would have called him first if he wasn't a solid witness. and number two, who isn't fascinated by this expose of how tabloid checkbook journalism works. i found it fascinating, and if you're fascinated as a juror, you're definitely listening. point three, he's part of a character i call a skoundological in that he's unabashed, unashamed of what he does. when you have witnesses like that, jurors kind of like them. they realize they are who they are, and they will listen to them and find them credible. as to that credibility, he has somewhat less credibility issues than michael cohen. so i think a very effective witness for the state and a really tough witness to cross for the defense. >> we don't use the word scoundrel enough in our coverage enough, danny cevallos. thank you for joining us and giving us new vocab words. >>> still ahead we'll look
>> oh, david pecker is the star witness for the people. and that may be a bold statement because so far he's been the only witness, but there are a few points why he must be. number one, they never would have called him first if he wasn't a solid witness. and number two, who isn't fascinated by this expose of how tabloid checkbook journalism works. i found it fascinating, and if you're fascinated as a juror, you're definitely listening. point three, he's part of a character i call a...
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but first, we start in new york where david pecker testified foa the third day. it i os less clear is the trial wears on as what is the crime? >> today was a breathtaking. and amazing testimony. this is a trial that should never happen. this is a case that should have never been filed. >> laura: joining me now is" todd piro, coanchor of "fox & friends first," i know you were in the courtroom today. you were witnessing and whatwers the take away today? >> i can't answer the crime is. we havlarse said legal cannot sy what the crime is to be in the courtroom and watch hour upon hour of testimony my still don't have an answer. to me, we have had nine years ou trump bad and in court, he had eight more hours of trump bad. i still don't know what the crime is. >> laura: when you watch the jury in the courtroom, are they riveted? are there eyes and attention seem to wonder? i'm so jealous you got to be in the courtroom he would give us a since of a bird's-eye view. >> i was was in the overflow ron i wasn't where the jury was pure to put to that point, i made a number of
but first, we start in new york where david pecker testified foa the third day. it i os less clear is the trial wears on as what is the crime? >> today was a breathtaking. and amazing testimony. this is a trial that should never happen. this is a case that should have never been filed. >> laura: joining me now is" todd piro, coanchor of "fox & friends first," i know you were in the courtroom today. you were witnessing and whatwers the take away today? >> i...
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david pecker says yes. and in fact that another place david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david pecker says, that's correct. >> i thought that was a very skillful cross-examining and a good read write and even even better you should have taken that law school but anyway but isn't the answer. so what ultimately you know, he he covered up for other celebrities. they weren't running for president. he didn't pay $150,000.01 hover over an array. >> arnold schwarzenegger he ran for governor at some point, but we don't know when or what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. >> this was so different from all those other search. >> i'm not saying you're wrong from what i was told by people in the courtroom today, it was very similar what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. in fact, there was a lot of examination today on, on his schwarzenegger
david pecker says yes. and in fact that another place david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david pecker says, that's correct. >> i thought that was a very skillful cross-examining and a good read write and even even better you should have taken that law school but anyway but isn't the answer. so what ultimately...
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they established that david pecker still likes donald trump. and that's a good thing because you have michael cohen and other people who very clearly have to be viewed with at least some questions about the personal animus that will come up on cross. here the jury was treated to a very simple fact, this guy this was transactional. he says nothing personal against him, just business. and that makes him a stronger witness against trump. >> yes. >> after the direct examination of david pecker concluded today, the cross-examination started, so the trump lawyers got to start asking david pecker hostile questions effectively and that had some really interesting stuff. we'll be looking at that right after this. stay with us. ng at that right after this stay with us have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thousands of people sell their policies for cash. even term policies. i can't believe
they established that david pecker still likes donald trump. and that's a good thing because you have michael cohen and other people who very clearly have to be viewed with at least some questions about the personal animus that will come up on cross. here the jury was treated to a very simple fact, this guy this was transactional. he says nothing personal against him, just business. and that makes him a stronger witness against trump. >> yes. >> after the direct examination of david...
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we have seen people walking down that and to know who david pecker is now and what donald trump is saying right there which is essentially, how is karen doing, is she going to shut up. >> later in the trial we will see checks that donald trump signed, according to the prosecution, to pay michael cole went back for the money he gave -- >> level photo in black and white and you feel it is historic and people talking about a hush money deal. >> and these checks were signed in the oval office while he was president. >> more of what we are learning from the courtroom. transcripts. and the definition of the oral argument and immunity, in a case they said we are writing a rule for the ages. her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the
we have seen people walking down that and to know who david pecker is now and what donald trump is saying right there which is essentially, how is karen doing, is she going to shut up. >> later in the trial we will see checks that donald trump signed, according to the prosecution, to pay michael cole went back for the money he gave -- >> level photo in black and white and you feel it is historic and people talking about a hush money deal. >> and these checks were signed in the...
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i felt like david pecker encapsulates maga world. he keeps drifting and completely dupes his followers, but then they said there and they still pay homage to him. talk about whether or not you think that this trial, even so far, has been moving the needle in any way in terms of public sentiment when it comes to donald trump. >> yeah, it reminds me of a story i was told by a new yorker whose parents worked for donald trump's contractors. he wasn't always good about paying the contractors and i said, did he pay her parents? he said no, and this guy said i had to sue to get their money. i said okay, well, they got $.50 on the dollar back in the guy says you know what? they voted for trump. why if they believe he cheated them on their money? he said because, if you cheat says he will cheat everybody else on behalf of america, cheat the rest of the world on behalf of america. there is an interesting dynamic. it's a view, of him as somebody who is able to manipulate the system to work the system, bypass the system, whatever it is, that see
i felt like david pecker encapsulates maga world. he keeps drifting and completely dupes his followers, but then they said there and they still pay homage to him. talk about whether or not you think that this trial, even so far, has been moving the needle in any way in terms of public sentiment when it comes to donald trump. >> yeah, it reminds me of a story i was told by a new yorker whose parents worked for donald trump's contractors. he wasn't always good about paying the contractors...
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pecker. he described his role as suppressing the storieies and te affairs would donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to dougal as our girl. he also suggested trump was angry about the interviews i did with her and stormy daniels. we will bring you excerpts from our coverage tonight. >> the supreme court oral arguments and the conservatives appeared to embrace some form of criminal immunity. the liberal minority by contra
pecker. he described his role as suppressing the storieies and te affairs would donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to dougal as our girl. he also suggested trump was angry about the interviews i did with her and stormy...
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david pecker and trump. that the conversation during which and said trump said to him, yet again, how is karen? >> is the implication of "house or girl," and "how's karen?" is she holding to agreement? >> is she and is she happy with what you've offered. talked on direct about the fact that karen mcdougal thought this was a serious arrangement. she was trying to forward her career and wanted to do red carpet interviews, she wanted to write columns in some of the fitness magazines, so at one point, david pecker has her come to new york and they have a meeting where he hears her out about her various complaints about her contractual arrangement with american media. why? he wants to come in his words, keep her in the family. hold her close. >> it's sad and sordid. i did think, as i was reading our notes on the internal slack , because we don't have the transcript, that the john edwards case is like, the closest parallel we have particularly because that ended up in acquittal, because that was this question of w
david pecker and trump. that the conversation during which and said trump said to him, yet again, how is karen? >> is the implication of "house or girl," and "how's karen?" is she holding to agreement? >> is she and is she happy with what you've offered. talked on direct about the fact that karen mcdougal thought this was a serious arrangement. she was trying to forward her career and wanted to do red carpet interviews, she wanted to write columns in some of the...