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he's in donald trump's pocket. bove then asked whether that incident is among those that colored his view that cohen is prone to exaggeration? pecker said yes. during redirect, pecker is asked about average payments when they do catch and kill stories. he said you testified on cross that arnold schwarzenegger announced his candidacy for governor and afterwards some 30 to 40 women came forward and you told mr. bove you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to kill those stories. pecker, yes. what was the average of those payments? pecker, the largest was $20,000, the others were up to $2,000. just the doorman got $30,000. it's different degrees. >> totally different degrees. you're looking at this giant six-figure payments to macdougal and to daniels. it's a totally different ball game. >> also, he didn't admit to campaign finance violations although he might have committed state crimes in the arnold schwarzenegger case. >> the reason that david pecker said he was even sensitive to the campaign finance angle of payi
he's in donald trump's pocket. bove then asked whether that incident is among those that colored his view that cohen is prone to exaggeration? pecker said yes. during redirect, pecker is asked about average payments when they do catch and kill stories. he said you testified on cross that arnold schwarzenegger announced his candidacy for governor and afterwards some 30 to 40 women came forward and you told mr. bove you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to kill those stories. pecker, yes....
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>>> welcome to our special new york versus donald trump. i'm ari melber and we are going to get into this criminal trial. we're covering that tonight in the course of this hour. we'll have new reporting on the damning testimony, experts from law to the sorted world of new york tabloids. we have experts on that, too, believe it or not. we also tonight have a beat special report on a new separate indictment on a trump lawyer, boris epstein, who first admitted his role on the beat. to hear all of that tonight. this weekends with a remarkable contrast from d.c. to new york. let me tell you what i mean. in washington a trump friendly court asked trump friendly questions about all of the problems with prosecuting a president. if you read about it, it almost sounded like that kind of trial was a futile project. while right up the east coast an actual trial of an actual former president was going forward and the republic did not crumble. it is a contrast that hangs over all of this in america and the very first week of the new york trial. it seems
>>> welcome to our special new york versus donald trump. i'm ari melber and we are going to get into this criminal trial. we're covering that tonight in the course of this hour. we'll have new reporting on the damning testimony, experts from law to the sorted world of new york tabloids. we have experts on that, too, believe it or not. we also tonight have a beat special report on a new separate indictment on a trump lawyer, boris epstein, who first admitted his role on the beat. to...
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she was protective of donald trump. she was somebody who would not in an off the record fashion go talking about what was happening on the inside and instead she was somebody who was very much opt of a confidant and she continued to serve in that capacity well into the white house. they testified that she was in 2018 still involved in conversations along with sarah huckabee sanders about how to extend karen mcdougal's contract so she wouldn't talk publicly about her relations with donald trump. >> i think this is trump's biggest trigger. cassidy hutchens sat and saud she was told to dye her hair to look like hopes. she was a daughter figure. she was all those things and more to trump. she is on the likely witness list. >> in that period of time, i was a fair amount. but if you'd asked as a statement of fact who are the names that came out of'dth's mouth more often in private settings, casual settings, but when he was in his office backstage at a political event, the two names were hope and rona. you didn't hear him talk
she was protective of donald trump. she was somebody who would not in an off the record fashion go talking about what was happening on the inside and instead she was somebody who was very much opt of a confidant and she continued to serve in that capacity well into the white house. they testified that she was in 2018 still involved in conversations along with sarah huckabee sanders about how to extend karen mcdougal's contract so she wouldn't talk publicly about her relations with donald trump....
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that's part of donald trump. the donald trump i have had experiences with is a much different human being. why is it necessary, at case like this, it's about documents, to make him seem i guess more likable. >> i think it's exactly what you said, there has to be a counter narrative. here he did it. right? he falsified, directed the falsification of documents. they're going to try to paint a broader picture, paint a picture of a businessman, somebody going about his business with people who like him, who respect him. she worked for him for apparently 34 years. she must have thought he was a good boss. >> it important for the jury to sympathize with him, and if so, is it kind of risky for the prosecution to call her as a witness if she's only authenticating things? >> not at all. they need to call her. she is his iphone for all purposes when it comes to things like contacts and messaging and administrative items like that. they need to call her, they need to authenticate things. they asked about specific days. we'l
that's part of donald trump. the donald trump i have had experiences with is a much different human being. why is it necessary, at case like this, it's about documents, to make him seem i guess more likable. >> i think it's exactly what you said, there has to be a counter narrative. here he did it. right? he falsified, directed the falsification of documents. they're going to try to paint a broader picture, paint a picture of a businessman, somebody going about his business with people...
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with donald trump. i think there's a lot of folks who would like to part ways with donald trump but they're scared of the consequences because it's well known, he will threaten people all the time who will say, you know, basically he'll say look, if you ever turn against me, i will destroy you. it's a common thing he says to people, it's a well known thing. i think there's a lot of people who would break with him but are scared to do so. pecker and hicks have been folks who have been managed to carefully walk the tight rope between telling the truth in these cases and getting to a place where donald trump actually turns his bazooka on them. and i do think, though, that being in that position does give them credibility in front of the jury. >> we have heard trump referred to repeatedly as the boss by david pecker in some of the transcripts we have seen. and cohen saying the boss will handle this or the boss will take care of this. how does that play into this trial? the people are calling rhona graff. >>
with donald trump. i think there's a lot of folks who would like to part ways with donald trump but they're scared of the consequences because it's well known, he will threaten people all the time who will say, you know, basically he'll say look, if you ever turn against me, i will destroy you. it's a common thing he says to people, it's a well known thing. i think there's a lot of people who would break with him but are scared to do so. pecker and hicks have been folks who have been managed to...
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donald trump? >> reporter: what is it about donald trump is a good question, chris. donald trump has staying power in so many ways. well, you may lose an election like the one in 2020, you also continue to have a following that is indignant upon any efforts to undermine him or the prestige of the trump organization or the political following, one that did garner more than 80 million votes in 2020, and folks are not naive to that, so even when donald trump loses an election or endorses candidates in 2022 who do lose, he continues to hold power to a great extent and also financial power, and that is what michael cohen for all those years had a full understanding of. hope hicks is going to take the stand here as a witness, and she has never met the ire of donald trump. those individuals who have caught his frustration are those who have attempted to sustain away from him, and when those individuals do step away from him, donald trump like bill barr, you are all but gone from his orbit here, and that's
donald trump? >> reporter: what is it about donald trump is a good question, chris. donald trump has staying power in so many ways. well, you may lose an election like the one in 2020, you also continue to have a following that is indignant upon any efforts to undermine him or the prestige of the trump organization or the political following, one that did garner more than 80 million votes in 2020, and folks are not naive to that, so even when donald trump loses an election or endorses...
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weeks before donald trump was sworn in as president. at that meeting, according to pecker, he says donald trump had thanked him for not only purchasing the rights to mcdougal's story but the doorman's story. donald trump's attorney under cross-examination is asking pecker why he told federal investigators in a 2018 meeting that he did not recall donald trump ever thanking him and pecker responded that he can remember what he testified to this week and he doesn't know why he testified or why the fbi wrote down what they did in 2018, nearly six years ago. he remembers and he says he knows that trump thanked him and that he stands by the testimony he provided this week. there are questions coming from trump's defense team about that non-prosecution agreement that american media and through david pecker signed with federal prosecutors back in 2018. at the time, the defense team for donald trump is now asking him about their intention to sell the "national enquirer" and two other american media tabloids to another company. if they were to be
weeks before donald trump was sworn in as president. at that meeting, according to pecker, he says donald trump had thanked him for not only purchasing the rights to mcdougal's story but the doorman's story. donald trump's attorney under cross-examination is asking pecker why he told federal investigators in a 2018 meeting that he did not recall donald trump ever thanking him and pecker responded that he can remember what he testified to this week and he doesn't know why he testified or why the...
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it arises in all of donald trump's criminal cases, because donald trump is on release in four criminal cases. and the condition of release in his cases is that he not commit any violation of state, federal or local law, the minute he's held in criminal contempt by judge merchan, he has violated the conditions of release in all of his cases. quickly, i have a copy of his transcript from his first court appearance, his arraignment hearing in his d.c. case and here is what the judge told donald trump. mr. trump, your most important condition of release, sir, is that you not commit a state, federal or local crime while on release. if you were to do so, a warrant may be issued for your arrest, your conditions of release may be revoked and you may be held pending trial in this case. once he's held in criminal contempt, he's violated his release conditions in all of his cases the question becomes what will all of the judges do as a result of that violation? >> so, glen, this is an important point you're bringing up. so, if merchan says, for example, yes, you know, criminal contempt because of
it arises in all of donald trump's criminal cases, because donald trump is on release in four criminal cases. and the condition of release in his cases is that he not commit any violation of state, federal or local law, the minute he's held in criminal contempt by judge merchan, he has violated the conditions of release in all of his cases. quickly, i have a copy of his transcript from his first court appearance, his arraignment hearing in his d.c. case and here is what the judge told donald...
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she knew the dirt on donald trump. i'd have to imagine if she takes that stand it will be scary and mortifying for trump to sit there knowing that he's muzzled, he can't say anything in response and he doesn't want to offend her, and yet he knows what she knows. that seems to be the biggest risk to him. >> jon, who do you think the next witness is going to be? >> they're going to call anybody who they think can corroborate michael cohen because michael cohen recently, a very respected federal judge judge furman wrote in an order that he thinks michael cohen may have committed perjury recently. michael cohen, there was never a camera, never a tv show he didn't go on. now, i don't blame the media for that, he was a great find, but i have never seen either as a prosecutor or a defense lawyer, a cooperator go on tv time and time again before they testify just to demonstrate his bias against trump and his desire to make trump go down. i think they're going to devastate michael cohen on cross. >> so you don't think he'll be
she knew the dirt on donald trump. i'd have to imagine if she takes that stand it will be scary and mortifying for trump to sit there knowing that he's muzzled, he can't say anything in response and he doesn't want to offend her, and yet he knows what she knows. that seems to be the biggest risk to him. >> jon, who do you think the next witness is going to be? >> they're going to call anybody who they think can corroborate michael cohen because michael cohen recently, a very...
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that boss, of course, was donald trump. he learned in december of 2022 that donald trump had paid it. prosecutors are trying to show that donald trump not only paid for it but that he falsified his business records to show that he didn't pay for it. they say that's a crime. the defense has got to poke some holes in the strong line of communication david pecker set up in the direct examination. >> we're told that david pecker has taken the stand again. i want to ask you something. donald trump has been saying repeatedly and did again this morning in a social media post that they have locked up the courthouse to keep his supporters away. he said the idea is to keep maga supporters away. it's a courthouse, open to the public. there's a park across the street. what's your sense of things? >> i think you can see traffic is moving right behind me. this is not a lockdown. yes, when the former president was enter the courtroom in the morning and leave in the evening, there is a block of traffic to allow his motorcade to move freely
that boss, of course, was donald trump. he learned in december of 2022 that donald trump had paid it. prosecutors are trying to show that donald trump not only paid for it but that he falsified his business records to show that he didn't pay for it. they say that's a crime. the defense has got to poke some holes in the strong line of communication david pecker set up in the direct examination. >> we're told that david pecker has taken the stand again. i want to ask you something. donald...
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donald trump as saying he doesn't need her voters. >> birdbrain, i call her birdbrain. nikki haley has made an unholy alliance with rinos, never trumpers. she was sitting there like -- she's gone crazy and she's a very angry person. i don't need votes. we've got all the votes we need. >> how do you bring these nikki haley voters back in? >> i'm not sure we need too many. >> in a statement the biden campaign writes, quote, our campaign has been clear from the beginning that we will welcome anyone who knows what four more years of donald trump would destroy our freedoms and devastate our country. i don't know, i was looking at the suburbs in pennsylvania and i was seeing a lot of places where nikki haley was running up margins that donald trump really knows he should need or at least his campaign knows, whether or not he's realized it yet. i guess we'll see. >>> meanwhile, new york's top court threw out kis graced harvey weinstein's 2020 rape conviction. and now the court is doing everything in its power to re-try the case. the appeals court found the appointed judge in t
donald trump as saying he doesn't need her voters. >> birdbrain, i call her birdbrain. nikki haley has made an unholy alliance with rinos, never trumpers. she was sitting there like -- she's gone crazy and she's a very angry person. i don't need votes. we've got all the votes we need. >> how do you bring these nikki haley voters back in? >> i'm not sure we need too many. >> in a statement the biden campaign writes, quote, our campaign has been clear from the beginning...
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donald trump. we are here to work for him. we are going to come up with legalese sounding gorsuch trying to deepen his voice and sound like an intellectual and we will try to intellectualize it but really what we are doing, we will protect this president because we want to retire under a republican and be replaced by 30-year-old versions of ourselves. you can't stop us. we are just going to do it. to me, it's liberating to no longer have to pretend that they are what they are. it's what i expected and they proved me right. >> can i respond? what you're seeing makes sense. i feel i'm taking crazy pills. what you just said, someone watching at home, this is what it is, yes, that's what it was today. all's i will say is it's getting worse. you are right and that's what was depressing. >> the worst trump cases are getting to them. >> the reason it's getting worse is the term folks were asking them to make up voter fraud and other off-the-wall arguments after then president- elect biden was declared the winner. they did not do that
donald trump. we are here to work for him. we are going to come up with legalese sounding gorsuch trying to deepen his voice and sound like an intellectual and we will try to intellectualize it but really what we are doing, we will protect this president because we want to retire under a republican and be replaced by 30-year-old versions of ourselves. you can't stop us. we are just going to do it. to me, it's liberating to no longer have to pretend that they are what they are. it's what i...
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trump quiet. "if anyone should buy it, it should be donald trump and michael cohen." david pecker said that michael cohen was upset and responded that "the boss would be furious ." david pecker said today he believed trump or his company pay daniels until michael cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove that mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. david pecker testified that trump was aghast when he saw stormy daniels on 60 minutes. >> was it hush money? >> yes. >> david pecker said trump called him and said, we have an agreement with stormy daniels, that she can't mention my name. trump denied knowledge of the arrangement, the cross- examination, trump's lawyers challenged david credibility in business practices. at a campaign event, trump addressed the testimony of his longtime friend. >> david is a nice guy. >> what do we know about the payment to stormy daniels? >> reporter: david pecker testified about a payment his company did make to former playboy model, karen mcdougal,
trump quiet. "if anyone should buy it, it should be donald trump and michael cohen." david pecker said that michael cohen was upset and responded that "the boss would be furious ." david pecker said today he believed trump or his company pay daniels until michael cohen told him in december of 2016 that he was the one who paid her. prosecutors are seeking to prove that mr. trump doctored internal business records to cover up that payment. david pecker testified that trump was...
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that donald trump is not involved, nonsense. the place where they have the strongest argument to make is that this was about personal matters. >> one piece that i think is strong is that all of the other celebrity "catch and kill" scheme issues, this is the only one, and correct me if i'm wrong, where they covered up the way that it was reported internally, where they went to incredible, elaborate lengths to make it look like it's something it's not and hide it from their own accountants and make it look like it's a president, under the president title, rather than where they would normally put his deals, so it's unique and i almost feel like, highlighting arnold schwarzenegger and these other deals, they were not structured this way and were not concealed this way. in a way, it actually makes the prosecutions point. >> even if they were concealed in that way, that would not undermine the fact that this is still a crime that the manhattan d.a. -- >> and david pecker admitted to. >> i don't think we know if american media did dis
that donald trump is not involved, nonsense. the place where they have the strongest argument to make is that this was about personal matters. >> one piece that i think is strong is that all of the other celebrity "catch and kill" scheme issues, this is the only one, and correct me if i'm wrong, where they covered up the way that it was reported internally, where they went to incredible, elaborate lengths to make it look like it's something it's not and hide it from their own...
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for donald trump as contractors. we all know that donald trump is not always very good about paying the contractors. i said this person, did he pay your parents? he said no, he didn't. discussed that i had to sue him to get their money. i said okay. he said well, i got $.50 on the dollar back. but you know what? they voted for trump. i said why would they vote for trump if they believe he cheated them on their money? he said well, if he cheats us, he will cheat everybody else on behalf of america. he will cheat the rest of the world on behalf of america. so there is a sort of interesting view of him as somebody who was able to manipulate the system, work the system, bypass the system, whatever it is that seems to earn respect on the part of people who admire him. and it is kind of curious in a lot of ways, it would be something you would expect. and yet, somehow he has managed, despite all of the examples where he has, in fact, tried to run around the system and cheat in various ways that has not actually heard the b
for donald trump as contractors. we all know that donald trump is not always very good about paying the contractors. i said this person, did he pay your parents? he said no, he didn't. discussed that i had to sue him to get their money. i said okay. he said well, i got $.50 on the dollar back. but you know what? they voted for trump. i said why would they vote for trump if they believe he cheated them on their money? he said well, if he cheats us, he will cheat everybody else on behalf of...
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donald trump. $12,000 with, $13,000.00 is not a lot of money to donald trump. so long as judge juan merchan doesn't have other options under the statute, even if he says the next time you do it jail is a possibility, he is already said that. >> is a constraint by statute or by what an appellate court would say from making an amount of money that would be more meaningful, that would be $100,000.00 per violation ? >> i think he is. i looked at the criminal contempt statute in new york and it is pretty clear those options are as i just outlined it. does that mean he couldn't find trump in violation of some other statute that has not been briefed before him? nobody has also said i'm not going to summarily find contempt. these are things you have to bring before me. he has made it very clear. these are not summary proceedings. unless he actually does it in front of me, i'm not going to do it on my own volition. >> we could keep going., we shouldn't. that will do it for us for now. now it is time for the
donald trump. $12,000 with, $13,000.00 is not a lot of money to donald trump. so long as judge juan merchan doesn't have other options under the statute, even if he says the next time you do it jail is a possibility, he is already said that. >> is a constraint by statute or by what an appellate court would say from making an amount of money that would be more meaningful, that would be $100,000.00 per violation ? >> i think he is. i looked at the criminal contempt statute in new york...
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donald trump. >> reporter: trump turned to the business at hand and asked david pecker, how is our girl? >> as his argument for absolute immunity finally goes before the supreme court. >> this court has never recognized absolute criminal immunity for any public official. >> a private attorney who was willing to spread false claims of election fraud -- >> what was up with the pardon for president nixon? if everybody thought presidents couldn't be prosecuted, what was that about? >> if it fails completely it is because we have destroyed our democracy. >> tonight, rachel maddow, nicolle wallace, joy reid, chris hayes, lawrence o'donnell, ra melber, all here as msnbc's special coverage of trump on trial begins now. >> who has the time? who has the time? you are telling me that simultaneously we've got three hours of oral argument at the united states supreme court about the former president claiming he is totally immune from prosecution for any crime he did as president and at the exact same time he is
donald trump. >> reporter: trump turned to the business at hand and asked david pecker, how is our girl? >> as his argument for absolute immunity finally goes before the supreme court. >> this court has never recognized absolute criminal immunity for any public official. >> a private attorney who was willing to spread false claims of election fraud -- >> what was up with the pardon for president nixon? if everybody thought presidents couldn't be prosecuted, what...
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donald trump called his shot month ago. he said my supreme court justices will never let this happen to me, and he was absolutely right. so with that information, my question to the american people is now, what are you prepared to do? because the supreme court has exposed itself as a partisan institution full of hacks that will do everything in their power to protect donald trump and make sure that a republican can be elected, not just in the next election, but in every election going forward. so what are we going do about that? my answer to that obviously is you cannot do anything in this country unless you expand the supreme court to take away their power and as you say, start removing some of these conservative justices who have already exposed themselves as criminals and liars. >> in many senses also perjurers before the united states senate when they got up and said stare decisis and lied about respecting precedent when it came to roe v. wade. lied to the faces of senators and got away with it. professor, elena kagan,
donald trump called his shot month ago. he said my supreme court justices will never let this happen to me, and he was absolutely right. so with that information, my question to the american people is now, what are you prepared to do? because the supreme court has exposed itself as a partisan institution full of hacks that will do everything in their power to protect donald trump and make sure that a republican can be elected, not just in the next election, but in every election going forward....
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it is donald trump who's a defendant today. i'm curious with your experience what you thought about that, director brennan, and be, doug, you can weigh in on all of it. >> yes. no president has ever been implicated in any type of coup or trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after an election. during the obama administration president obama had to make a decision about carrying out a strike against a senior al qaeda leader who happened to be a u.s. citizen. he decided he wanted to do it in order to protect the national security of the united states. he didn't worry about criminal liability, whatever else and the fact that he didn't have immunity. he recognized he had to fulfill the office of the presidency to make sure he did what he was authorized to do under the law. >> douglas? >> yeah. i mean, look, i thought justice alito was deeply irresponsible to even throw s.e.a.l. team six into this. they're more than honorable, they're heroes to the american people. to kind of start playing this game of, you know, they wou
it is donald trump who's a defendant today. i'm curious with your experience what you thought about that, director brennan, and be, doug, you can weigh in on all of it. >> yes. no president has ever been implicated in any type of coup or trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after an election. during the obama administration president obama had to make a decision about carrying out a strike against a senior al qaeda leader who happened to be a u.s. citizen. he decided he wanted...
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donald trump. so -- but he clearly has exposure. and not only does he have exposure but there was interesting testimony about what was happening internal to ami because at some point, he goes -- we don't know the substance because they didn't waive attorney-client privilege and if you're talking to a lawyer internal to a company you don't have to reveal that publicly even at a criminal trial, but they were going to front the money to the door man. >> night they were fronting the money to karen mcdougal. he was planning on getting reimbursed from donald trump. and with karen mcdougal, it's not a donald trump who says i'm not paying you. it's you have david pecker has a conversation with counsel. >> yeah. >> and then afterwards he's like, we're not participating anymore. >> that's where the arnold schwarzenegger -- he has learned that which runs afoul -- he's so d he's a witness knowledgeable in campaign finance law. >> he's gotten involved in other campaigns, but yes, it's true. look this is the cas
donald trump. so -- but he clearly has exposure. and not only does he have exposure but there was interesting testimony about what was happening internal to ami because at some point, he goes -- we don't know the substance because they didn't waive attorney-client privilege and if you're talking to a lawyer internal to a company you don't have to reveal that publicly even at a criminal trial, but they were going to front the money to the door man. >> night they were fronting the money to...
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donald trump. and for the first time today, our team of reporters who have been inside the court are now with us. joining us now msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, "new york times" investigative reporter suzanne craig, nbc national law enforcement and intelligence correspondent tom winter, lisa and tom were inside the courtroom. sue was in the overflow room set up for reporters to observe the proceedings and joining us here at the table is former manhattan district attorney catherine christian. catherine and sue susan are msnbc contributors. we also have andrew weissmann still with us. lisa, i do want to begin with you and talk to you about what has been happening inside the courtroom today. we've been in supreme court hearings, oral arguments all day, so the attention has not been focused inside this courtroom, but as i understand it, david pecker has been revelatory. it's been a very interesting day for the prosecution, and they just went to break on news that pecker said that he believed what
donald trump. and for the first time today, our team of reporters who have been inside the court are now with us. joining us now msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, "new york times" investigative reporter suzanne craig, nbc national law enforcement and intelligence correspondent tom winter, lisa and tom were inside the courtroom. sue was in the overflow room set up for reporters to observe the proceedings and joining us here at the table is former manhattan district attorney...
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why that became such a big issue for donald trump's defense team. i wonder whether now they might have thought to argue about qualified immunity as opposed to absolute immunity. given the framing of some of the questions from the justices, it may have boded better to do so in terms of creating that distinction. i think when you are looking at the questions that were asked by gorsuch as well as alito, it's very clear there is clearly a faction on the bench that wants to create a space that allows this argument to breathe further or at least them to kick it back down and allow that to be dealt with at a lower court. if you are looking in other directions, there are clearly justices like jackson who want to try and make this as narrow as possible. this was lawyering at the highest of levels. i want to remind everyone out there, the supreme court is not right because -- they are not last because they are always right. they are right because they're always last. what i mean by that is, whatever results from this is something that we will all have to live
why that became such a big issue for donald trump's defense team. i wonder whether now they might have thought to argue about qualified immunity as opposed to absolute immunity. given the framing of some of the questions from the justices, it may have boded better to do so in terms of creating that distinction. i think when you are looking at the questions that were asked by gorsuch as well as alito, it's very clear there is clearly a faction on the bench that wants to create a space that...
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this election suppression case against donald trump goes to trial ever or before the election. and it's important to point out, they've already made some decisions here that have had implications for that, with the way they've handled this case, with the way they rejected jack smith's request to take this case on an expedited basis, allowed the appeals process to play out. that's already caused a delay. they're asked to consider this question of whether a president has absolute immunity. i think we have new sound from former president trump. let's take a listen to that. >> we have a big case today. this judge isn't allowing me to go. we have a big case in the supreme court, our presidential immunity. a president has to have immunity. if you don't have immunity, you just have a ceremonial president. >> reporter: nobody thinks the supreme court -- very few legal experts think the supreme court is going to adopt mr. trump's view that a president has absolute immunity. there is a possibility they may see some opportunity for some immunity for some presidential decisions. if they de
this election suppression case against donald trump goes to trial ever or before the election. and it's important to point out, they've already made some decisions here that have had implications for that, with the way they've handled this case, with the way they rejected jack smith's request to take this case on an expedited basis, allowed the appeals process to play out. that's already caused a delay. they're asked to consider this question of whether a president has absolute immunity. i...
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so is this bad for donald trump? yeah. i mean, what we're seeing is that it's up to -- when you talk about the several states, any county prosecutor could decide, you know what? this affected our state, our county. the attorneys general can do the same thing. you know, going back to why so long, what was the delay all about, i totally agree with what lisa said. i'd like to add to it. i mean, it is no surprise that prosecutors were probably wait ing around to see who was going to be the first to do it because it is scary. it is scary to indict a former president of the united states because he has and will fight like heck at every level. and losing a case, maybe one of the first cases against a former president, would be a crushing defeat. so, in my view, from a social perspective, it was no surprise that in just the last year, once the first indictment came down, everyone else felt much more emboldened to start indicting the president. listen, i don't blame them. it is a scary prospect with just flaming disaster possibilit
so is this bad for donald trump? yeah. i mean, what we're seeing is that it's up to -- when you talk about the several states, any county prosecutor could decide, you know what? this affected our state, our county. the attorneys general can do the same thing. you know, going back to why so long, what was the delay all about, i totally agree with what lisa said. i'd like to add to it. i mean, it is no surprise that prosecutors were probably wait ing around to see who was going to be the first to...
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people like donald trump learned a different lesson. he learned the best way to get rich is inherit it. he learned paying taxes was something working people did, not him. he learned that telling people you're fired was something to laugh about. not in my household, not in my neighborhood. i mean it severely, no joke. >> still ahead we'll turn to sports and last night's playoff action in the nhl and the nba including the miami heat shattering a franchise record in their battle with the celts. "way too early" is coming right back. celts. "way too early" is coming right back but this is my story. ( ♪♪ ) and with once-daily trelegy, it can still be beautiful. because with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler, trelegy keeps my airways open for a full 24 hours and prevents future flare-ups. trelegy also improves lung function, so i can breathe more freely all day and night. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy m
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while they're not yet seeking an incarcerated penalty for donald trump they believe donald trump is aiming for just that. and for what it's worth, right wing media seems to be angling for that, too. >> i would force them to throw me in jail if i were donald trump. the mug shot backfired. the indictments have been backfired. being a martyr in jail for maybe what a day, 24 hours, i think that would be good. >> if they put him in jail for his first amendment right, he would be like nelson mandela. . >> right after the court was allowed to break and allowed to use his phone again donald trump posted this on truth social. highly conflicted to put it mildly. judge juan merchan has taken away my right to free speech. everyone is allowed to talk and lie about me but i'm not allowed to defend myself. this is kangaroo court and the judge should recuse himself. while attacking the judge does not run afoul of the gag order trump is clearly poking the bear and running right up to the line of what's allowed. there is the legal side of this gag order, and we're going to get some expert help unpacking tha
while they're not yet seeking an incarcerated penalty for donald trump they believe donald trump is aiming for just that. and for what it's worth, right wing media seems to be angling for that, too. >> i would force them to throw me in jail if i were donald trump. the mug shot backfired. the indictments have been backfired. being a martyr in jail for maybe what a day, 24 hours, i think that would be good. >> if they put him in jail for his first amendment right, he would be like...
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unindicted co-conspirator one is, of course, donald trump. now, all this comes as trump already faces, as you will know, 88 criminal charges across four jurisdictions. he is currently on trial in new york facing 34 charges related to election interference and business record fraud. tomorrow morning the supreme court will be hearing arguments in his immunity case were trump claims he cannot be prosecuted by special counsel jack smith in the federal january 6 election case against him joining me now with the latest is nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard. i know you have been reading into this and going through the indictment, so just the first of all, just set up what happened here in terms of the investigation, whose office did the investigation, how long it took and what attorney general mays announced today. >> i think it is important for folks that may be saying why did this investigation take so long, why is it the year 2024 for this indictment finally came down? will folks should also understand that in the state of arizona, it was a
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who else does donald trump never criticize? judge aileen cannon because he thinks she is still going to give him a solid in the documents case in florida. with respect to david pecker it is either because sometime he thinks david is going to do him a solid in his testimony come tomorrow. i think that's unlikely because pecker is under a non-prosecute agreement. if he starts saying good stuff he could be prosecuted. or, pecker knows where even more of trump's bodies are buried so he's a threat. he doesn't want to antagonize pecker but he also hasn't said anything bad about hope, so i think maybe he's trying to see who his true enemies are and who still may hold out and do a little something for the donald. >> harry, my colleague, john allen, wrote an interesting piece today for he said trump's legal team is spending an enormous amount of time discussing that donald trump should not be referred to as mr. trump. he needs to be referred to as the president of the united states. they are spending a huge amount of time in court doing
who else does donald trump never criticize? judge aileen cannon because he thinks she is still going to give him a solid in the documents case in florida. with respect to david pecker it is either because sometime he thinks david is going to do him a solid in his testimony come tomorrow. i think that's unlikely because pecker is under a non-prosecute agreement. if he starts saying good stuff he could be prosecuted. or, pecker knows where even more of trump's bodies are buried so he's a threat....
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the only difference between the donald trump of the 80s and the donald trump of today as he feels totally free to let his dark side out, and his dark side is very dark and very dangerous for this country. we can't let our democracy that we've worked for and cherished disintegrate with the wrong leader at the wrong time. i can tell you that he personally committed to me that he was going to get our pensions fixed. he understood who was affected by these pensions. he assured me i'm the president of the united states, i'll just call mitch. i'll tell him to put it in the bill. is everybody going to love me? if you fix the pensioner of it is gone love you. well, that was wasted breath. there were lots of other things put in that bill. there were tax cuts put in that bill for rich people. donald trump promised infrastructure every year. >> infrastructure is the easiest of all. >> donald trump was not interested in any policy that actually goes along with being president of the united states. trump was interested in the pomp and circumstance, the plane, the helicopter, it's all about him. donald
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donald trump and the battle for american democracy. thank you for being here, what is the point of a gag order honestly? when you have a media industrial complex acting as a public defense line for donald trump? >> you are asking the right question. this was on my mind last week. no matter how much was shared by the new york times or the ap, there will be fox and the other outlets trying to intimidate the jurors. a week late story is true when it comes to the witnesses. it is so important you are identifying this. we have to see while we are on effort one, what is happening on earth two? tucker carlson was fired by fox news and they are a little less in crazyville as a result. tucker believes in ufos and connections to god. for jesse waters, trump is god. and that's the programming every hour of every day on the other networks. >> can i ask you because you have been inside the fox complex, you have deep connections and have reported out from there. they say we want a story about ted cruz. go write one. and the national enquirer would d
donald trump and the battle for american democracy. thank you for being here, what is the point of a gag order honestly? when you have a media industrial complex acting as a public defense line for donald trump? >> you are asking the right question. this was on my mind last week. no matter how much was shared by the new york times or the ap, there will be fox and the other outlets trying to intimidate the jurors. a week late story is true when it comes to the witnesses. it is so important...
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now look at donald trump's behavior. he trash talks everyone and anyone who does not side with him, yet he has been radio silent when it comes to david pecker what does that tell you about pecker that trump mums the word? >> tells me one of two things. who else does donald trump never criticize? judge aileen cannon because he thinks she's going to do him a solid in the documents case in florida. it's because somehow he thinks david pecker is going to do him a solid in his testimony tomorrow. i think that unlikely. if he flips the script and starts saying good stuff for trump the prosecutors don't anticipate, pecker will be in trouble because he's going to be prosecuted. >> let's go to the or. >> the or is pecker knows where even more of trump's bodies are buried. >> bingo. >> he's a threat and he doesn't want to antagonize pecker, but he also hasn't said anything bad about hope hicks. i think maybe he's trying to see who his true enemies are and who still may hold out and do a little something for the donald. >> trump fe
now look at donald trump's behavior. he trash talks everyone and anyone who does not side with him, yet he has been radio silent when it comes to david pecker what does that tell you about pecker that trump mums the word? >> tells me one of two things. who else does donald trump never criticize? judge aileen cannon because he thinks she's going to do him a solid in the documents case in florida. it's because somehow he thinks david pecker is going to do him a solid in his testimony...
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donald trump promised infrastructure every year. >> infrastructure is the easiest of all. >> donald trump was not interested in any of the policy that actually goes along with being president of the united states. trump was interested in the pomp and circumstance, the plane, the helicopter. it's all about him. donald trump is incapable of running anything, let alone the most powerful country in the history of the world. god help us if he gets anywhere near that white house in the future. >> joining us now, jimmy williams jr., general president of the international union of painters and allied trades, an affiliate of the north america's building trades unions. thank you very much for joining us tonight. you were there today. you had four years of donald trump with no infrastructure whatsoever. joe biden gets in, delivers on the infrastructure bill. i can't think of anything more important to your unions than that work that comes through that infrastructure bill. >> thank you so much for having me. it's not just the infrastructure bill that president biden and the biden/harris administratio
donald trump promised infrastructure every year. >> infrastructure is the easiest of all. >> donald trump was not interested in any of the policy that actually goes along with being president of the united states. trump was interested in the pomp and circumstance, the plane, the helicopter. it's all about him. donald trump is incapable of running anything, let alone the most powerful country in the history of the world. god help us if he gets anywhere near that white house in the...
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trump can mount a proper public defense, does donald trump really need to do it himself? he sure seems to have plenty of other people doing that for him already. last week, right wing media, and in particular fox news host jesse watters, demonized individual members of this jury. one of the things prosecutors dissected specifically as one of the instances of trump breaking his gag order was trump quoting jesse watters and saying "they are catching undercover liberal activists leading to the judge in order to get on the trump jury." here is the thing. jesse watters didn't actually say that. trump added to the part that read in order to get on the trump jury. but, within hours, jesse watters directed trumps mistake for him , posting trumps incorrect version of the quote to jesse watters's own twitter account, in effect, retroactively making his own words the words that trump wanted them to be. quite clearly and quite literally, they are heeding trumps calls. they are taking his line edits. what does a gag order mean when you have someone like this with a microphone? >> the
trump can mount a proper public defense, does donald trump really need to do it himself? he sure seems to have plenty of other people doing that for him already. last week, right wing media, and in particular fox news host jesse watters, demonized individual members of this jury. one of the things prosecutors dissected specifically as one of the instances of trump breaking his gag order was trump quoting jesse watters and saying "they are catching undercover liberal activists leading to...
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he did it to protect donald trump. cohen lied to congress about business deals trump pursued in russia while he was running for president because trump wanted him to conceal those business deals so his russia baggage wouldn't look so obvious. and cohen lied to a bank to take out a home equity line of credit to pay to silence a woman alleging a sexual relationship with donald trump. namely stormy daniels. trump weirdly keeps leaving out those details when he calls his former personal attorney and fixer a criminal. in clear violation, by the way, of a gag order. tomorrow there will be another chance to hold donald trump accountable in an unprecedented case with farther reaching implications, not just for him but for our democracy. the u.s. supreme court will hear arguments in donald trump versus the united states about whether he can claim sweeping presidential immunity over his criminal election interference charges from special counsel jack smith. but even for the conservative majority hears one word of arguments, it i
he did it to protect donald trump. cohen lied to congress about business deals trump pursued in russia while he was running for president because trump wanted him to conceal those business deals so his russia baggage wouldn't look so obvious. and cohen lied to a bank to take out a home equity line of credit to pay to silence a woman alleging a sexual relationship with donald trump. namely stormy daniels. trump weirdly keeps leaving out those details when he calls his former personal attorney...
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donald trump has been around the block. he may know, and you may know when you take out a sum of over 10, 15k, it already creates an alert. you take 15k cash out of the atm, it creates a banking alert. that's how suspicious it is. if you take 130k out, authorities are on to it. that's not always the best idea if you don't want to get caught, but it also is suspicious. and that's not all. the d.a. prosecution team telling the jury they will also have an extensive paper trail, bank records, emails, technology messages, phone logs and business records and others that the d.a. says they will show the jury to show that trump reimbursed cohen through those monthly checks. and again, we know what they're talking about. donald trump's big loopy signature on each of those checks. and more, his star witness i mentioned, tabloid publisher david pecker, well, he is the first witness as you probably know from following this trial. they brought him right out. and he said, this again is part of the prosecution's case, he is their witness.
donald trump has been around the block. he may know, and you may know when you take out a sum of over 10, 15k, it already creates an alert. you take 15k cash out of the atm, it creates a banking alert. that's how suspicious it is. if you take 130k out, authorities are on to it. that's not always the best idea if you don't want to get caught, but it also is suspicious. and that's not all. the d.a. prosecution team telling the jury they will also have an extensive paper trail, bank records,...
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donald trump's america, guys. that was supreme court justice sotomayor at oral arguments earlier today summing up where we are not just in idaho, but as a country, as americans. the nation's highest court in the land is forced to reckon and rumble with the world donald trump created for women in this country, now, today, that's happening right now. the case before the justices today was about whether a federal law that requires hospitals to provide stabilizing health care to any patient whose life or health is in serious jeopardy covers abortion health care in states where the procedure is heavily restricted or banned. the state of idaho is suing because it wants to deny abortions to women having a medical crisis in the moment. it's a direct result of a majority in the court that included three hand-picked justices from donald trump stripping away the protections enjoyed in in country for 50 years under roe v. wade. here is justice sonia sotomayor laying out the real world situations where women in america have be
donald trump's america, guys. that was supreme court justice sotomayor at oral arguments earlier today summing up where we are not just in idaho, but as a country, as americans. the nation's highest court in the land is forced to reckon and rumble with the world donald trump created for women in this country, now, today, that's happening right now. the case before the justices today was about whether a federal law that requires hospitals to provide stabilizing health care to any patient whose...
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this is a bill that donald trump did not support. what does it mean for republicans to break with him? is this a movement or a moment? >> reporter: well, it's interesting. you played senate minority leader mitch mcconnell's thoughts on this, and i just wrapped up a lengthy one on one interview with him that we'll have on msnbcnews.com in a bit. getting into donald trump's role was interesting. he acknowledged along with tucker carlson that donald trump played a big role in republicans backing away from the idea that ukraine funding was a smart idea, and then what he ultimately said was donald trump's decision to kind of back away from his earlier backing away of ukraine support kind of gauged space for individual republican members to assess this on their own and come up with their own conclusion, and the fact that donald trump didn't continue to hammer it right up until the very end gave them the space to vote yes and recognized that this was a real problem. mitch mcconnell believes there's a family fight, he described it, in the re
this is a bill that donald trump did not support. what does it mean for republicans to break with him? is this a movement or a moment? >> reporter: well, it's interesting. you played senate minority leader mitch mcconnell's thoughts on this, and i just wrapped up a lengthy one on one interview with him that we'll have on msnbcnews.com in a bit. getting into donald trump's role was interesting. he acknowledged along with tucker carlson that donald trump played a big role in republicans...
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what did donald trump's daughter-in-law have to say about it? >> well, look, this is all part of what the rnc calls a masive voter integrity operation. claiming they're going to deploy a hundred thousand volunteers and attorneys across battle ground states to protect the vote and ensure a big win in november. our comments to newsmax raise a few flags. listen. >> so will they be allowed to physically handle the ballots as well, lara? >> yep, and that means, eric, that they should know and they can count how many ballots come in and how many ballots should go out of every single polling location. here's something else we need to make clear. if we catch you cheating and we're looking out there for you to cheat, we will prosecute you to the full extent of the law. >> so, of course, observers, poll watchers, volunteers, all of that is welcome and encouraged from both parties during an election, but some of what she had to say, and some of what the rnc outlined in their plans had some election experts concerned that it could end up leading to voter in
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. >>> and with the new york city court dark today, how are attorneys in donald trump's hush money case spending those limited hours before they have to head back into the courtroom? and how will trump's attorneys push back against david pecker whose testimony has already shown the former president to be a willing participant in a scheme to skew the 2020 election. >>> but we start at the supreme court where for the first time since they overturned roe v. wade, justices are being forced to reckon with the by-product of that decision and rule on the abortion issue all over again. at the heart of the arguments, whether idaho's near total abortion ban should take precedence over federal law and block abortions. in situations where abortion would help stabilize pregnant patients undergoing a medical crisis. now, idaho's attorney says it should. the government disagreed. >> what idaho is doing is waiting for women to wait and deteriorate and suffer the lifelong health consequences with no possible upside for the fetus. it just stacks tragedy upon tragedy. >> and it can't be the -- you know, i
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among friends with donald trump to help get donald trump's first presidential election. the prosecution showed pecker's pages of his former tabloid's headlines, which are what everyone sees at supermarket, designed to hurt donald trump's opponents. lisa reubens and also paul butler are joining us. lisa, you've been amaamazing. the trial taking a day off. you never take a day off. but let me ask you when do we expect, anyway to tell whether today could be the day where we hear what the judge will decide about thegag order alleged violations? he certainly seemed very impatient of the ability to restrain let's say donald trump. >> he is equally frustrated with todd's ability to connect him with the attacks. that was the chief defense, that donald trump was simply defending himself in the court of public opinion. i expect that we'll hear from week's end. but judge merchan said that he wouldn't rule from the bench because he understands that it will likely be appealed so he wants to take his time to be thoughtful about which of the posts are violations and what the relief is.
among friends with donald trump to help get donald trump's first presidential election. the prosecution showed pecker's pages of his former tabloid's headlines, which are what everyone sees at supermarket, designed to hurt donald trump's opponents. lisa reubens and also paul butler are joining us. lisa, you've been amaamazing. the trial taking a day off. you never take a day off. but let me ask you when do we expect, anyway to tell whether today could be the day where we hear what the judge...
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it was repetition and we know from donald trump for years that repetition is a powerful thing. a lie told over and over can become a truth. and in this case, you saw story after story after story the effect it had. ben carson was doing surgery, leaving sponges in people's brains. and that's the sort of story that they were pushing while at the same time they were grabbing negative information about donald trump and buying it off the market. >> what was it like there in the courtroom? what was truck's reaction, demeanor? did you see what the jurors were doing or not doing? >> i'm in an overflow room. i can't see his reaction to the jurors. for the most part, he had a pretty good scowl on his face. that's how i would describe it. he's not happy being there, of course. so that -- we're looking at him, i got a view of the monitor, that's primarily what i saw. >> and so, coming up next, i know tomorrow the prosecution still has pecker on the stand. there is cross coming. >> right, we're going to see tomorrow karen mcdougal, another woman that had a relationship with donald trump, we
it was repetition and we know from donald trump for years that repetition is a powerful thing. a lie told over and over can become a truth. and in this case, you saw story after story after story the effect it had. ben carson was doing surgery, leaving sponges in people's brains. and that's the sort of story that they were pushing while at the same time they were grabbing negative information about donald trump and buying it off the market. >> what was it like there in the courtroom? what...
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we didn't see america getting behind donald trump. we saw republicans digging in, and at a time where they thought, you know, 16 other people ran against donald trump, they thought he was vulnerable because of '22, because of the indictments and it turned out the indictments just turned the switch and helped him. but only with hard core republicans. >> you know, it is interesting what we're hearing in the trial, and along the lines of how does this, you know, resonate with voters? do they have, you know, fatigue as the trial drags on, or do they have a visceral reaction to remembering what happened in 2016 and the chaos, especially when we're learning of all the details related to the national enquirer manufactured stories, the stories that included the false claims that senator marco rubio had a love child and used cocaine, ben carson allegedly leading a sponge in a patient's brain, a doctored photo suggesting senator ted cruz's father was involved in the kennedy assassination, all of those people who were targeted and ended up going
we didn't see america getting behind donald trump. we saw republicans digging in, and at a time where they thought, you know, 16 other people ran against donald trump, they thought he was vulnerable because of '22, because of the indictments and it turned out the indictments just turned the switch and helped him. but only with hard core republicans. >> you know, it is interesting what we're hearing in the trial, and along the lines of how does this, you know, resonate with voters? do they...
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in falsification of business records. >> i want to play something we heard from donald trump yesterday just before the trial picked back up. >> michael cohen is a convicted liar and he's got no credibility whatsoever. he was a lawyer, and you rely on your lawyers, but michael cohen was a convicted liar. he was a lawyer for many people,
in falsification of business records. >> i want to play something we heard from donald trump yesterday just before the trial picked back up. >> michael cohen is a convicted liar and he's got no credibility whatsoever. he was a lawyer, and you rely on your lawyers, but michael cohen was a convicted liar. he was a lawyer for many people,
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donald trump. there was a lot to go around yesterday. mitt romney, wow. bring it home, willie. >> yeah, mitt romney going in there, obviously no love lost between those two men. mitt romney, expect to hear more of that throughout the campaign. >> expert legal analysis on yesterday's testimony in the hush money trial and the gag order against trump. straight ahead. >>> president biden's joke came while he was campaigning in florida. on the issue of reproductive rights and women's health care, blaming trump for overturning roe and these extreme abortion laws. we'll show you more of the president's speech. quite a flex going down to florida while trump was stuck in court in new york city. on capitol hill, a top republican admits it's trump's fault that border security hasn't passed. we knew that. to hear this republican say it really brings it home. willie, i had the news on all day, if i heard the word pecker one more time, i was going to lose my mind. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new yo
donald trump. there was a lot to go around yesterday. mitt romney, wow. bring it home, willie. >> yeah, mitt romney going in there, obviously no love lost between those two men. mitt romney, expect to hear more of that throughout the campaign. >> expert legal analysis on yesterday's testimony in the hush money trial and the gag order against trump. straight ahead. >>> president biden's joke came while he was campaigning in florida. on the issue of reproductive rights and...
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trump but had nothing to do with donald trump. he was in charge of the company for years. >> yeah, i was just going to say the simplest way to do it is say, look, you're willing to publish lies, you admitted as much. what makes it any clearer you're not lying right now about donald trump? let's turn to the judge. the judge did not issue a ruling yesterday on whether donald trump violated the gag order, but he did say that trump's attorney, todd blanche, was losing all credibility after attorney blanche said trump was being very careful trying to comply with the gag order. i guess two questions. one is why did judge merchan not issue a gag order yesterday in your estimation? and what's your reaction to his rebuke of todd blanche? >> well, one, not having credibility is another way of saying you're not telling the truth. and as a lawyer you never want to hear that from a judge particularly at the beginning of trial because that will stay in the judge's head, and that will be throughout the trial that the judge thinks you have no cre
trump but had nothing to do with donald trump. he was in charge of the company for years. >> yeah, i was just going to say the simplest way to do it is say, look, you're willing to publish lies, you admitted as much. what makes it any clearer you're not lying right now about donald trump? let's turn to the judge. the judge did not issue a ruling yesterday on whether donald trump violated the gag order, but he did say that trump's attorney, todd blanche, was losing all credibility after...
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where does that leave donald trump? do you think that puts pressure on him to take the stand, or is it too far-fetched to imagine f in. >> i think it's arunlikely he'l testify for so many reasons not least of which the cross-examination is going to be brutal, but oneis of the things the prosecution is going to have to prove is that donald trump knew what he was going to do he was breaking the law. there's a knowledge element here. it has to be done with the the intent to break the law. one way he could do that by show and testifying i didn't know these entries were being made. i didn't know i was doing this with the the intent to violate the federal election campaign act. he can do that through his testimony. i highly doubt he'll do it, but you heardgh a lot of speech fro todd blanche in the opening statement. i don't know how they're going to prove thelic of knowledge on mr. gtrump's behalf, but one w you could do it is to not testify. >> in the list of potential witnesses there are some high level trump organization o
where does that leave donald trump? do you think that puts pressure on him to take the stand, or is it too far-fetched to imagine f in. >> i think it's arunlikely he'l testify for so many reasons not least of which the cross-examination is going to be brutal, but oneis of the things the prosecution is going to have to prove is that donald trump knew what he was going to do he was breaking the law. there's a knowledge element here. it has to be done with the the intent to break the law....
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please deny, david role in the criminal conspiracy to elect donald trump and the wild hearing on trump's gag order abuse. clearance, the judge is getting tough on trump's lawyer. >> saying to donald trump's attorneys, you are losing all credibility, you are losing all credibility with the court. >>> then why the biden campaign said they had a chance to win florida. >> he is out campaigning and i am sitting up all day long. >>> and r series continues, are you better off than you were four years ago? >> the disinfectant, it knocked it out in a minute and is there a way we can do something like that? by injection or cleaning. >> when all in starch right now. >>> good evening, from new york, i am chris hayes, day two of the criminal trial, donald trump, today we heard in great detail how trump and his gang conspired to hide all his worst secrets, at least some of them. trump and his lawyer continue to stretch the patience of judge merchan. the started with the hearing on the gag order the judge had already issued, which trump has her heatedly and freely been violating on social media and els
please deny, david role in the criminal conspiracy to elect donald trump and the wild hearing on trump's gag order abuse. clearance, the judge is getting tough on trump's lawyer. >> saying to donald trump's attorneys, you are losing all credibility, you are losing all credibility with the court. >>> then why the biden campaign said they had a chance to win florida. >> he is out campaigning and i am sitting up all day long. >>> and r series continues, are you better...
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now they are endorsing donald trump. working for donald trump. they are sucking up to donald trump. under oath, the former head of the national enquirer is admitting he essentially humiliated these men in pursuit of donald trump's white house candidacy. and the shamelessness, the willingness of these folks to commit sort of like to basically base themselves. it is really humiliating. >> i think so. so george, you are the tabled republican. >> listen don johnson. >> you are our table republican tonight. in republican circles, when news like this comes out. when you have david being like yep, made up the stories about donald trump's foes. it is what i did. like, what happens in like, in republican cocktail parties tonight? what are they saying? yeah. he made up stories about my dad. still voting for him. like, how does that work? >> i have no idea. i can't fathom it it. i think they just do this. i got, i was on the acella yesterday. and the first class car. and some guy. >> oh i'm sorry. like, i'm sorry. first you wear that outfit. >> and this guy gets into the discussion. i'm headli
now they are endorsing donald trump. working for donald trump. they are sucking up to donald trump. under oath, the former head of the national enquirer is admitting he essentially humiliated these men in pursuit of donald trump's white house candidacy. and the shamelessness, the willingness of these folks to commit sort of like to basically base themselves. it is really humiliating. >> i think so. so george, you are the tabled republican. >> listen don johnson. >> you are our...
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so, there is donald trump. summoning trump supporters in idaho to go to the courthouse in boise and stage a big protest for him. or in north dakota or utah or alabama or texas or somewhere there is a vast majority of voters for donald trump. any courthouse in america, florida, anywhere. and no one, no one anywhere in the country showed up at any courthouse to protest the criminal prosecution of donald trump. 74million trump voters said absolutely no. we will not protest donald trump's criminal prosecution. we do not care. they are not the only people who don't care. donald trump is the only criminal defendant i have ever seen who cannot round up a single family member to sit in the front row of the courtroom in support of criminal defendant donald trump. his third and current wife isn't there. neither of his daughters are there. none of his sons are there. not a single personal friend has shown up as a show of support for donald trump. not one. serial killer and sometimes cannibal jeffrey dahmer had his family
so, there is donald trump. summoning trump supporters in idaho to go to the courthouse in boise and stage a big protest for him. or in north dakota or utah or alabama or texas or somewhere there is a vast majority of voters for donald trump. any courthouse in america, florida, anywhere. and no one, no one anywhere in the country showed up at any courthouse to protest the criminal prosecution of donald trump. 74million trump voters said absolutely no. we will not protest donald trump's criminal...