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>> well, i think, julie, they pinned down dreeben, making the argument for jack smith team. they pinned him down to a concession there is a bit of presidential immunity that goes around the core of the president's duties. justice kagan is correct they didn't use the word immunity. trump's team pushes back the vesting of executive power in the president itself imply indicates immunity because congress cannot enact a law that criminalizes the president's performance with his core responsibilities. so i think what will happen here is two-fold. one is you have to decide how far outside the core of the president's duties the immunity extends. and the second thing is because the d.c. circuit did not go through the mental acrobatics of trying to figure out which acts in the indictment are private and don't have immunity and which are official and do, that has to be done. so i would anticipate that they may send the case back to the judge with instructions to sort out what's official and what is not? >> julie: i get word they have resumed the trial. david pecker on the stand, the fo
>> well, i think, julie, they pinned down dreeben, making the argument for jack smith team. they pinned him down to a concession there is a bit of presidential immunity that goes around the core of the president's duties. justice kagan is correct they didn't use the word immunity. trump's team pushes back the vesting of executive power in the president itself imply indicates immunity because congress cannot enact a law that criminalizes the president's performance with his core...
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jack smith wants one before the election. >> dana: david spunt in washington, d.c. for us. thank you so much. joining us for more on all this is attorney will sharp. he is on the legal team representing former president trump before the u.s. supreme court and a candidate for missouri attorney general. thank you for making time for us today. david axelrod was a campaign consultant and worked in the white house for obama. he now has a big podcast and tweeted this yesterday. based oh than what we heard today from scotus it may seem trump may skate past the election without standing trial on the january 6th charges. if so the new york city trial is likely the only he will face pre-november. under the circumstances the best scenario he could have hoped for. how do you see it? >> we were certainly optimistic coming out of the supreme court yesterday. they seem to be taking this issue of presidential immunity, the scope of presidential immunity, very seriously and they seemed very receptive to our arguments without a robust presidential immunity for a president's official acts in
jack smith wants one before the election. >> dana: david spunt in washington, d.c. for us. thank you so much. joining us for more on all this is attorney will sharp. he is on the legal team representing former president trump before the u.s. supreme court and a candidate for missouri attorney general. thank you for making time for us today. david axelrod was a campaign consultant and worked in the white house for obama. he now has a big podcast and tweeted this yesterday. based oh than...
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smith. the supreme court focused on the presidency and not trump. that gets to something that president trump said moments ago. here is what he said just walking into court. >> yesterday i the supreme court having to do with immunity. i heard the argument was brilliant. i listened to it last night and thought it was great. the judges' questions were great and all presidents have to have immunity. this has nothing to do with me. absolutely nothing. all presidents have to have immunity. or you don't have a president. certainly not a president the founders wanted. >> shannon: that seemed to be a lot of what the justices were reading through yesterday. what's the future implication not just for this case but for presidents to come? i think it was justice gorsuch said we're writing a rule for the ages. >> exactly. that is the question here. not just about what you think of donald trump. but about whether or not the presidency, the institution of the presidency is protected from lawsuits that coul
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jack smith in the courtroom and all justices went back and forth with two extreme positions. former president's legal team says he has immunity and special counsel says he has none. what it seemed like justices are trying to get to is middle ground, presidents need some level of immunity so they can make difficult decisions, but not efverything he ever did woud be covered. they are trying to find middle ground. as jonathan turley and colleagues have said, i get the sense they send it to a lower court to deal with again, that turns into a net win for trump legal team. they'll have that private vote today. we won't know for a while. >> guy: we were talking on the guy benson show. plug there. what does that mean for the timeline? that is crucial here. >> shannon: yeah, if that would happen, they would have to pick and choose through what are private acts, what were official acts he did as president, not as a candidate or person. as the president. that is going to take some time before you get back to the trial on the merits. one question yesterday, i think from justice barrett,
jack smith in the courtroom and all justices went back and forth with two extreme positions. former president's legal team says he has immunity and special counsel says he has none. what it seemed like justices are trying to get to is middle ground, presidents need some level of immunity so they can make difficult decisions, but not efverything he ever did woud be covered. they are trying to find middle ground. as jonathan turley and colleagues have said, i get the sense they send it to a lower...
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>> brian, i think the most important concession was by michael dreeben who was the lawyer for jack smith and for the biden justice department who basically conceded that there is presidential immunity from prosecution. now, he doesn't allow that it's as robust as president trump argues. but he certainly made a concession to the court that there is an am bit of executive authority that congress can't criminalize once you make a decision that there is presidential immunity, then the question becomes what acts does it cover? so i think by the end of the argument, it became at least to my mind much more likely that the court may resolve this by sending the case back to trial judge in washington with instructions to go through the indictment and sort out what is an official act of the presidency what is a private act that isn't covered by immunity. if that's what the court does, i don't see how this case gets to trial prior to election day. >> ainsley: what happens if this does. smith's way on almost everything. you know, ainsley, judges behave better when they know someone is checking their
>> brian, i think the most important concession was by michael dreeben who was the lawyer for jack smith and for the biden justice department who basically conceded that there is presidential immunity from prosecution. now, he doesn't allow that it's as robust as president trump argues. but he certainly made a concession to the court that there is an am bit of executive authority that congress can't criminalize once you make a decision that there is presidential immunity, then the...
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the take was oral argument was disaster for special counsel jack smith. at least 5-quart republican seemed eager to o the very leasg to permit trump to delay, criminal trial adding the trust does seem to hedged the mostme john roberts also seem toec think that trump enjoys some immunity from federal prosecution. a little bit about the argued cases and clerk for is justice scalia and thomas. chris, is the real reason for the left to be in despair tonight customer >> i think it was a good day for former president trump info t i supreme court court, laura. but i think that is because he's got the law and common sense on his side. i i mean, this is -- the questiont edas you just read is whether aa president can bevi subjected toh criminal liability after leavine office for official acts, right? nobody is arguing here about the president's being immune for private acts.th so, murder, speeding, whatever. but the thing is, if we crossedn the rubicon of saying that our presidents can bche criminallyon charged with for their official acts, we don't h have a countr
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i don't think anybody has thought of so far that jack smith could do. i don't want to put any idea i sat in his head because i hate this prosecution. prosecution r. fai i think it's unconstitutional and i think it's wrong. bu would be interestingsee to see if jack smith triedifsm to take that concessioitn and rn with it. i don't know what the courts would do. macoi'm sure, if i would have me that concession. but with all thade that said, m, either you agree that this case now no chance of being triede of wefore november, or at least is that your take? we only have about 10 seconds each. grean secot yeah, i just think to's impossible to get this done. it's inevitable that the supreme court, regardles gets of their precise decision, they got to send it back to thee lower court for findings of fact. at the very leas t by the trial court judge and professor. there's a current indictment. it can't put under the current indictment the cur, can't be trd before the election. but if they amended the indictment to include only the conceded thd publiceitu private
i don't think anybody has thought of so far that jack smith could do. i don't want to put any idea i sat in his head because i hate this prosecution. prosecution r. fai i think it's unconstitutional and i think it's wrong. bu would be interestingsee to see if jack smith triedifsm to take that concessioitn and rn with it. i don't know what the courts would do. macoi'm sure, if i would have me that concession. but with all thade that said, m, either you agree that this case now no chance of being...
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jack smith's team was trying to undo 234 years of presidential precedent in the supreme cour t, arguing that presidents should be held criminally liable for actions they've taken office. >> the judges, though, not convinced. >> there's the old song aboutabu indicting a ham sandwich. yes, but i think just a few weeks you had a lot of experience in the justice department. you comeyoiv across a lot of cas where the the u.s. attorney or another federal prosecutor really wanted to indict a casenf in the grand jury, refused to do so. >> t are suc that,es you know. yes. but i think that the other oncea in a while there's an eclipse to justice kavanaugh a asked like, why wouldn't this create a vicious cycle of partisas cre presidential prosecutions and pardons and certain going forward is that the system when former forme presidents are subt to prosecution in the historyg of morrison versus olson, tells us it's not going to stop. us's going to it's's goingo cyca cycle back and be used against the current president or pr president or and the next president and the next president after that presi
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smith has an option and i wonder if yes thought about it he could actually achieve what he wants to achieve , as sleazy as i think it is trying to mainly get a down and dirty conviction before the election if he did the following, a fee tomorrow had the grand jury reindict donald trump only charging private acts not acts that are immunized trump's own lawyer acknowledged publicly on the record that it would be constitutional permissible to indict and try a president for private acts and of the indictment as it exists today is a combination of jumble really of private acts and public acts so jack smith would probably have the option of going back and getting a new indictment and thereby moving the supreme court decision by simply taking the position that trump's lawyer made and using it as the basis for prosecuting he may lose that case obviously because i don't know whether there is enough in the private act to warrant a criminal prosecution but that is an option that i know i don't think he knew else has thought of so far that jack smith could do i don't want to put any ideas in hi
smith has an option and i wonder if yes thought about it he could actually achieve what he wants to achieve , as sleazy as i think it is trying to mainly get a down and dirty conviction before the election if he did the following, a fee tomorrow had the grand jury reindict donald trump only charging private acts not acts that are immunized trump's own lawyer acknowledged publicly on the record that it would be constitutional permissible to indict and try a president for private acts and of the...
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smith's team was trying to undo 234 years of presidential president. arguing that presidents should be held criminally liable for actions they take an office. judges though, not convinced. >> there is the old... about indicting a ham sandwich. you have live experience in the justice department. you come a lot -- across a lot of cases where the u.s. attorney or another federal prosecutor really wanted to indict a case in the grand jury refused to do so. >> there are such cases yes. i think that the. >> once in a while there's an eclipse to. >> jesse: he asked why would in this create a vicious cycle of partisan presidential prosecutions and pardons? >> the concern going forward is that the system when former presidents are subject to prosecution, history tells us is not going to stop. it's going to cycle back and be used against the current president or the next president in the next president after that >> jesse: president not having immunity opens up a pandora's box. if trump gets charged does that mean bill clinton gets charged for bombing aspirin fa
smith's team was trying to undo 234 years of presidential president. arguing that presidents should be held criminally liable for actions they take an office. judges though, not convinced. >> there is the old... about indicting a ham sandwich. you have live experience in the justice department. you come a lot -- across a lot of cases where the u.s. attorney or another federal prosecutor really wanted to indict a case in the grand jury refused to do so. >> there are such cases yes. i...
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disaster for the special counsel jack smith. at least five of the court's republicans seemed eager at the very least to trump delay federal criminal trial adding that the justice who seemed to hedge the most, john roberts, also seemed to think that trump enjoys at least some immunity from criminal prosecution joining us now. chris landau. chris, is there real reason for the left to be in despair tonight? >> i think it was a good day for former president trump in the supreme court, laura. but i think that's just because he's got the law and common sense on his side. i mean, this is -- the question as you just read is whether a president can be subjected to criminal liability after leaving office for official acts, right? nobody is arguing here about the president's being immune for private acts. right? so, you know, murder, speeding, whatever. the thing is, if we cross the rubicon of saying that our presidents can be criminally charged for their official acts, we don't have a country anymore. i mean, how is a president -- how is
disaster for the special counsel jack smith. at least five of the court's republicans seemed eager at the very least to trump delay federal criminal trial adding that the justice who seemed to hedge the most, john roberts, also seemed to think that trump enjoys at least some immunity from criminal prosecution joining us now. chris landau. chris, is there real reason for the left to be in despair tonight? >> i think it was a good day for former president trump in the supreme court, laura....
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but, many of the justices were as concerned about the sweeping implications of what jack smith is arguing as they were what donald trump was arguing and there seems to be an interest in finding a third option. but that third option would require likely a remand and a further delay of that case. >> gillian: we kept hearing today from the dissent that -- excuse me from the prosecution that, you know, there is in common understanding that presidents are subject to criminal liability. take a listen to that side of today. >> it's baked into the constitution that any president knows that they are exposed to potential criminal prosecution. it's common ground that all former presidents have known that they could be indicted and convicted and watergate cemented that understanding. >> so, what place do you think this so-called common understanding has in the law and in this case specifically? >> well, it's not quite as clear as what the did. two nixon cases one granted absolute immunity on civil cases. and the court has never answered to what extent that extends to criminal cases. there is also the
but, many of the justices were as concerned about the sweeping implications of what jack smith is arguing as they were what donald trump was arguing and there seems to be an interest in finding a third option. but that third option would require likely a remand and a further delay of that case. >> gillian: we kept hearing today from the dissent that -- excuse me from the prosecution that, you know, there is in common understanding that presidents are subject to criminal liability. take a...
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right former president donald trump was not in the courtroom but jack smith was. the entire council team as well. you look like it is related to january 6th and today the argument was the allegations they make about the actions he took surrounding generally sixth are they subject to some kind of broad grant of presidential immunity against potential criminal liability? the justices had all kinds of quarries looking far beyond the case and thinking about how it would impact generations to come. at 1 point saying we are writing a rule for the ages, they get the historical impact on the job they will have to do with this particular case. worrying in a contentious election cycle the person who loses would immediately have to worry about their opponent tried to put them in jail if they're an incumbent who lost a reelection bid. but just as jackson was on the other side saying i'm worried about the court getting a sweeping grant of criminal immunity to any sitting president so that when he leaves he knows there is not going to be a liability. this is what she responsibl
right former president donald trump was not in the courtroom but jack smith was. the entire council team as well. you look like it is related to january 6th and today the argument was the allegations they make about the actions he took surrounding generally sixth are they subject to some kind of broad grant of presidential immunity against potential criminal liability? the justices had all kinds of quarries looking far beyond the case and thinking about how it would impact generations to come....
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listen to michael dragon arguing earlier for special counsel jack smith than you will hear from the trump attorney john sauer. >>> if the president can be charged and put on trial and imprisoned for his most controversial decisions as soon as he leaves office, that looming threat will distort the president's decision-making cicely 1 bold and fearless action is most needed. the. >> framers knew too well the dangers of a king who could do newark -- no wrong. they therefore devised a system to check abuses of power, especially the use of official power for private gain. >> martha: joining the noun is will scharf and an attorney representing former president trump in this case joining us in a couple minutes but first with the chief legal correspondent and anchor of fox news sunday live today at the supreme court, hello shannon. >> hi martha. it was scheduled for about an hour at almost 3 today though because they had a lot to consider. it's been a crazy day out here at the supreme court. we will just work through that. the judges were taking this very seriously as they were wading through som
listen to michael dragon arguing earlier for special counsel jack smith than you will hear from the trump attorney john sauer. >>> if the president can be charged and put on trial and imprisoned for his most controversial decisions as soon as he leaves office, that looming threat will distort the president's decision-making cicely 1 bold and fearless action is most needed. the. >> framers knew too well the dangers of a king who could do newark -- no wrong. they therefore devised...
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. >> here he is questioning the internal representative special counsel, jack smith. >> does the president have immunity or are you saying there is no immunity or presidential immunity even for official acts? >> yes justice thomas but it is also important to put in perspective the position that we are offering the court today. the president as the head of the article to branch can assert as applied article two objections to criminal laws that it interfere with an official power presented by the president or prevents the president from accomplishing his constitutionally assigned functions. >> the clock is ticking. end of june we should hear something, it could be sooner. here is? >> harris: all right. there are protesters everywhere these days. david, thank you very much. so, kayleigh mceany, you and i got into a detailed conversation this idea of official acts versus private acts. let's bring the audience into our conversation on that. >> kayleigh: this was huge and this is a press of what we've heard if i'm trump and i watch this, i feel good about what i've learned. about these justices,
. >> here he is questioning the internal representative special counsel, jack smith. >> does the president have immunity or are you saying there is no immunity or presidential immunity even for official acts? >> yes justice thomas but it is also important to put in perspective the position that we are offering the court today. the president as the head of the article to branch can assert as applied article two objections to criminal laws that it interfere with an official...
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smith case. does it go away, go forward, or a combination of the two which starts things from square one again and makes things a bit more complicated and delays it until after the election? >> dana: earlier today i asked and he mccarthy a political question. this is about presidents and presidential immunity but election year. if you are the biden white house and biden campaign how do you think they look at this and how do they want the justices to rule? >> i think they would want the justices to rule that the former president was acting not in his official capacity but as an office seeker. but two things. one is first of all, to some degree this has already been a victory for donald trump because this has delayed the start of the trial by jack smith and as a result has put him in the middle of a political campaign. we have a highly divisive electorate, highly divided with republicans on one side, democrats on the other cheering for their respective squads and as a result, it has energized presi
smith case. does it go away, go forward, or a combination of the two which starts things from square one again and makes things a bit more complicated and delays it until after the election? >> dana: earlier today i asked and he mccarthy a political question. this is about presidents and presidential immunity but election year. if you are the biden white house and biden campaign how do you think they look at this and how do they want the justices to rule? >> i think they would want...
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he put himself on that team to go after trump and now on the jack smith and arguing the case for jack smith today. very interesting. >> dana: we are going to have a chance at 10:00 a.m. to hear the justices and the argument. you will be inside. so you know the justices well and pay attention to a lot of this. what are you listening for today? is there anyone in particular you are expecting to weigh in heavily? >> you know i'll be keeping an eye on the chief justice. he tries to guide the court with a narrow hand in many cases, incrementally. if they find there is some scope of immunity for these particular actions where do they set the boundaries? i think listening to the questions about whether they are open to that issue of immunity and how far it might go. if we see who is trying to probe what the outer boundaries of that would be, these arguments are set for an hour but nothing else on the docket today. i expect we go well beyond that. this is a moment in history for the justices to decide. we don't know what the vote was to take up the case, who voted yes or no or who wants to he
he put himself on that team to go after trump and now on the jack smith and arguing the case for jack smith today. very interesting. >> dana: we are going to have a chance at 10:00 a.m. to hear the justices and the argument. you will be inside. so you know the justices well and pay attention to a lot of this. what are you listening for today? is there anyone in particular you are expecting to weigh in heavily? >> you know i'll be keeping an eye on the chief justice. he tries to...
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jack smith says it happened after he was president. here is what the former president said an hour and a half ago. >> we have a big case today on presidential immunity. a president has to have immunity or you have a ceremonial president. >> this case was supposed to go to trial in early may, it was delayed. arguing for special counsel is michael dreebben, who was on robert mueller's team. and john sour worked for former president trump, former law clerk to late justice scalia. if rule in favor of special counsel jack smith itten moos the trial will be back on, engines kick back on. we probably won't go to trial for several months, it's been paused at district court level. if they rule in favor of donald trump, don't expect to see a trial at all. we should have a decision by end of june, at latest, it is possible it could be in the next several weeks. it is not something that will be decided if a few days. >> bring in jonathan turley, law professor. professor turley, old saying bad case makes bad case law. are we setting up bad case law
jack smith says it happened after he was president. here is what the former president said an hour and a half ago. >> we have a big case today on presidential immunity. a president has to have immunity or you have a ceremonial president. >> this case was supposed to go to trial in early may, it was delayed. arguing for special counsel is michael dreebben, who was on robert mueller's team. and john sour worked for former president trump, former law clerk to late justice scalia. if...
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special counsel jack smith says trump's behavior continued after he left office. and he should be prosecuted full stop. this case was supposed to go to trial in early march. but it was delayed when the supreme court agreed to hear the case. now, arguing for the special counsel today, a man named michael dreefn, he previously worked on special counsel robert mueller's team. he is screen left. screen right is john sour. former law clerk to the late justice antonin scalia. the justices they say that they are probably going to take this case for about two hours today though it could go longer given the stakes here. if they rule in trump's favor. his case in washington, d.c. could essentially go away. if they rule against him, the motions, everything will start moving again the train will start moving for trial. several months away. we may see a trial late summer, early falls, who knows if that could be delayed further, perhaps, past the election. back to you. >> brian: big media presence there already? >> big media presence barely anybody from the public. little surpr
special counsel jack smith says trump's behavior continued after he left office. and he should be prosecuted full stop. this case was supposed to go to trial in early march. but it was delayed when the supreme court agreed to hear the case. now, arguing for the special counsel today, a man named michael dreefn, he previously worked on special counsel robert mueller's team. he is screen left. screen right is john sour. former law clerk to the late justice antonin scalia. the justices they say...
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now, special counsel jack smith says trump's behavior continued after he left office, and he should be prude full stop. this case was supposed to go to trial here in d.c. in early march. it was delayed when the supreme court behind me agreed to hear the case. arguing for the special counsel is michael dreeben who previously worked on special counsel robert mueller's team arguing for donald trump is john sower antonin scalia law clerk. justices who typically like to shy away from politics cannot escape it in this case. they are entering the nerve center of the elections. if they say that trump is not immune, the engines of the case will kick back on and start moving if the justices side with the former president, it's possible he does not go to trial at all here in washington, d.c. again, arguments kick off at 10:00. we definitely expect those to last at least two hours, perhaps even more. back to you. >> ainsley: thank you, david. the ruling is expected in late june. so that would be in the middle of the summer when we will find out what they decide. >> brian: then, of course, if they
now, special counsel jack smith says trump's behavior continued after he left office, and he should be prude full stop. this case was supposed to go to trial here in d.c. in early march. it was delayed when the supreme court behind me agreed to hear the case. arguing for the special counsel is michael dreeben who previously worked on special counsel robert mueller's team arguing for donald trump is john sower antonin scalia law clerk. justices who typically like to shy away from politics cannot...
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does it go away or can jack smith still prosecute him? >> jack smith says if there is partial idea of immunity, the case can proceed. i disagree. there need to be determination if conduct charged in january 6 fall in outer perimeter or whatever the court sets before you can proceed. question of immunity for a president is significant, how can you second guess them. that is what the court has to grapple with. >> carley: on the hush money tr trial, day seven today, they took their wednesday recess yesterday. on tuesday, prosecutors revealed conspiracy to promote election, where is this going? >> very interest ing finding, trump is charged with felony he fa falsified records. prose prosecutors allege if is new york law, which is expired misdemeanor. to say felonious conduct s, no specificity about what conduct he took to wrongfully promote an election. they have to show he falsified record and did so to promote election through conspiracy. it is becoming contro vo luted, that is newest theory. >> carley: you are teaching us about hush money
does it go away or can jack smith still prosecute him? >> jack smith says if there is partial idea of immunity, the case can proceed. i disagree. there need to be determination if conduct charged in january 6 fall in outer perimeter or whatever the court sets before you can proceed. question of immunity for a president is significant, how can you second guess them. that is what the court has to grapple with. >> carley: on the hush money tr trial, day seven today, they took their...
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he was charged by special counsel jack smith for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election results. he claimed the alleged acts happened within his official role as president. and he can't be charged. special counsel smith says trump's behavior continued into his post presidency. this trial originally was supposed to happen in march. it's been delayed because of the supreme court. depending on what the supreme court does, we you could have trial later this summer, august, september, if they rule in trump's favor we may not have one at all. shannon? >> shannon: we will cover that trial start to finish tomorrow. david, thank you. >> thank you. >> shannon: three republicans joined all 29 of the democrats in the arizona house of representatives to pass a measure to repeal the state's near total ban on abortion. that bill now goes to the state senate. the ban is based on a 19th century law that was recently upheld by the state's supreme court. it allows abortions only in cases when the mother's life is in danger. >> it's not everyday you can say you made the world truly a better place.
he was charged by special counsel jack smith for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election results. he claimed the alleged acts happened within his official role as president. and he can't be charged. special counsel smith says trump's behavior continued into his post presidency. this trial originally was supposed to happen in march. it's been delayed because of the supreme court. depending on what the supreme court does, we you could have trial later this summer, august, september, if...
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if it does that, it throws a real wrench into the works for special counsel jack smith. it would seem almost impossible at that point for him to have a trial before the election, and if trump is reelected, jack smith may never see a jury and either of these cases. >> harris: that's an excellent point. really and truly, we are getting there already. always good to have you in focus, and good to see you. thank you, jonathan. president biden's uncommitted problem is becoming more uncommitted than ever. will not go away. tens of thousands of voters in the key swing state of pennsylvania have joined the movement. "welcome aboard," some say. they are not slowing down the push to vote. say no to joe. voters outraged over very stubborn inflation now under president biden. >> during the trump years, i was able to afford things. i did not have the stress or anxiety about tomorrow. you know, just from eating and supporting myself. >> harris: did you hear what she just said? eating. eating has become a problem. and she was successful under trump erie new data showing millions more a
if it does that, it throws a real wrench into the works for special counsel jack smith. it would seem almost impossible at that point for him to have a trial before the election, and if trump is reelected, jack smith may never see a jury and either of these cases. >> harris: that's an excellent point. really and truly, we are getting there already. always good to have you in focus, and good to see you. thank you, jonathan. president biden's uncommitted problem is becoming more uncommitted...
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should he be immune from these jack smith trials? how do you think this will go? >> i think this is the most significant moment for all of the trump trials because this overlies whether a president, a former president can be taken to a criminal trial for anything that happened during -- when they were in office. there is a really significant argument, i think, supporting the idea that a president should be immune because it's a very slippery slope when you start to look at all of the decisions that a president has to make. and whether an opposing party can then come into office and start to second-guess and criminalize these decisions, including military decisions and operations and things of that sort. so, the question here is really going to be whether trump has full immunity, whether there is some sort of fact-finding test. whether there is outer perimeter of president's immunity from criminal prosecution. similar to what they decided in the civil case. but, again, we won't know for sure until they start asking those questions. and then we will see very clearly
should he be immune from these jack smith trials? how do you think this will go? >> i think this is the most significant moment for all of the trump trials because this overlies whether a president, a former president can be taken to a criminal trial for anything that happened during -- when they were in office. there is a really significant argument, i think, supporting the idea that a president should be immune because it's a very slippery slope when you start to look at all of the...
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met >> jack smith's guys mete with the white house, too, and this is just breaking. >> special counsel jack smith's been tryinsel jackg to hide the white house fingerprints, which are all over the documents unrec case. we're getting unredacted documents that saycument the bin white house was guiding the criminal case against crimump.t after trump leftice, office, the biden white house counsel immediately steppethe housd in to the national archives investigation. >> deputy white house counsel jonathan shoe told the national archives lawyer , could we discuss the process before anything is provide d to trump? e >> the national archives lawyer called this atypicalnation. ng the fact that they were consulting with the white adm house. >> then the biden administration instructed the national archives to revokte president trump's executive privilege, and then the white house directed. he the national archives to refer the matter to the department of justicetter tment of spearhei investigation, codenamed plasma echo. besiind of a stupid codename. >> besides a few classifiedy documents that tr
met >> jack smith's guys mete with the white house, too, and this is just breaking. >> special counsel jack smith's been tryinsel jackg to hide the white house fingerprints, which are all over the documents unrec case. we're getting unredacted documents that saycument the bin white house was guiding the criminal case against crimump.t after trump leftice, office, the biden white house counsel immediately steppethe housd in to the national archives investigation. >> deputy...
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jack smith was forced to unredacted. you've been looking through them, what are they show with regards to this coordination between the biden white house, the librarian and the justice department? >> when the governments reductions are removed and the curtain comes down, it's very telling and it's very telling how ugly it really was at the time that president donald trump was leaving the oval office. just moments after he left there was no question because of the revelations that are telling within these documents that there was an orchestrated effort between the white house and the national archives to zero in on trump and basically orchestrate a story to suggest that donald trump and his team were noncomplying or not willing to cooperate. the irony and hypocrisy of that is that gary stern who is almost a 25 year veteran for the national archives drafted an e-mail and explained that it is generally a very chaotic time when you have a one term transition and it hadn't even completed the electronic transfer of the trump a
jack smith was forced to unredacted. you've been looking through them, what are they show with regards to this coordination between the biden white house, the librarian and the justice department? >> when the governments reductions are removed and the curtain comes down, it's very telling and it's very telling how ugly it really was at the time that president donald trump was leaving the oval office. just moments after he left there was no question because of the revelations that are...
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jack smith, obviously, the special counsel would like that to happen. >> no. he definitely wants that to happen. that seems to be his overriding priority. just as a criminal defense attorney, i don't see how you get from here to there before the election. there is so much evidence here that is still being contested. i think the odds are against it. but, you have a very motivated special counsel doing all he can to make that happen. >> bret: jonathan, as always, thank you. >> thanks, bret. >> bret: strong earnings led to another positive day. i'm over here. on wall street. the dow gained 264, the s&p 500 was up 60, the nasdaq 235. net income plummeted as global sales and price cuts sliced into american vehicle's revenue and profit margins. austin, texas company said it made 1.13 billion from january through march compared to 2.51 billion in a same period a year ago. revenue was down 9% from last year. up next, president biden focuses on abortion rights, an issue he hopes is a big winner for him. state charges are dropped against 150 people accused of rioting co
jack smith, obviously, the special counsel would like that to happen. >> no. he definitely wants that to happen. that seems to be his overriding priority. just as a criminal defense attorney, i don't see how you get from here to there before the election. there is so much evidence here that is still being contested. i think the odds are against it. but, you have a very motivated special counsel doing all he can to make that happen. >> bret: jonathan, as always, thank you. >>...
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jack smith goes to subway fani willis goes to lickety splitsllis. liz from portsmouth, new hampshire i would like michl to nominate michael douglas for another oscar. >> it's just so sharp. laura from utah. t i wonder how many of those student protesters had their loans forgiveneiforgiv? >> uh huh. james from virginia. uncle is last word before being eaten by cannibals. . don't. >> kelly from pennsylvania. ask chris hansen to investigate the cannibals. >> the date uncle dizzy, uncle boosie, r.i.p.. , >> pete from florida. sam's club hasb your book at the bottom of the shelf. i moved it to eye level. you're welcome. you'elcome." to everybody to do. if you see my book getting less than prominent placement at some of these places.f >> you move it up to high you level. i'm not saying interfere it. the display i don't want to do anything illegal, just high level. i'm waters and this is my world. >> and welcome to hannity. and this
jack smith goes to subway fani willis goes to lickety splitsllis. liz from portsmouth, new hampshire i would like michl to nominate michael douglas for another oscar. >> it's just so sharp. laura from utah. t i wonder how many of those student protesters had their loans forgiveneiforgiv? >> uh huh. james from virginia. uncle is last word before being eaten by cannibals. . don't. >> kelly from pennsylvania. ask chris hansen to investigate the cannibals. >> the date uncle...
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we just got a batch of these unredacted documents that jack smith, the prosecutor for joe biden has been hiding. what have we learned? >> i think what we learn fundamentally is that the special counsel wants to keep everything secret. and that president trump wants everything open it's probably one of the most consequential trials to come before the american people in the american people deserve to know everything that's going on and deserve to know every aspect of the case and we have fought and continue to fight to make that happen. >> jesse: chris, thank you so much. johnny goes to aoc's district. >> when you're heading to the polls, how important is the issue of january sixth? >> january 6, what are you talking about? they need their lawn back fast and you need scotts turf builder rapid grass. it grows grass 2 times faster than just seed alone. giving you a stronger lawn. smell that freedom, eh? get scotts turf builder rapid grass today, it's guaranteed. feed your lawn. feed it. [ ♪♪ ] >> jesse: when ronald reagan was california governor and the sixties berkeley was plagued by ri
we just got a batch of these unredacted documents that jack smith, the prosecutor for joe biden has been hiding. what have we learned? >> i think what we learn fundamentally is that the special counsel wants to keep everything secret. and that president trump wants everything open it's probably one of the most consequential trials to come before the american people in the american people deserve to know everything that's going on and deserve to know every aspect of the case and we have...
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smith wanting to go to trial on this. mike: alex, thank you for your time and analysis. great to see you. >> thank you. mike: a young boy and his sister dead in michigan of a 66-year-old woman allegedly drove drunk into a birthday party at a book club. christina coleman is tracking this tragic story for us. hello, christina. reporter: that's right. a 5-year-old boy and 8-year-old sister died after a suspected drunk driver crashed into a birthday party book club yesterday afternoon. nine of the victims taken to area hospitals with life threatening injuries and it happened in mono-rendition of anthony counties berlin township about 30 miles south of detroit. >> unfortunately in tragedy, two of the victims pronounced deceased at the scene. this includes an 8-year-old female and a 5-year-old male who are siblings of each other. reporter: authorities say the suspect's vehicle struck the north wall of the building and stopped after it was approximately 25 feet inside. >> the scene was described by the first responders as extrem
smith wanting to go to trial on this. mike: alex, thank you for your time and analysis. great to see you. >> thank you. mike: a young boy and his sister dead in michigan of a 66-year-old woman allegedly drove drunk into a birthday party at a book club. christina coleman is tracking this tragic story for us. hello, christina. reporter: that's right. a 5-year-old boy and 8-year-old sister died after a suspected drunk driver crashed into a birthday party book club yesterday afternoon. nine...
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supreme court in jack smith attempted to force the d.c. trial to go on precedentipresidential equipmene and fortunately supreme court ruled the right way for us on that but we are fighting on all fronts to keep things as fair as weekend. the full spectrum of litigation is so vast and so dramatic it is impossible to view in any way other than did the political lens of election interference it's a very, very sad day for our republic that is what we are dealing with as we proceed deeper into election season in 2024. mark: i want the american people to understand something. put yourself in president trump's shoes you do not even have time to think about how you can defend yourself. how you could help your counsel there so many different cases on so many different fronts with so many allegations all concocted in different jurisdictions. you have a right as a citizen let alone a presidential candidate former president to help your counsel defend you. we are flying from one place to another you are being alleged to have done this or the other you
supreme court in jack smith attempted to force the d.c. trial to go on precedentipresidential equipmene and fortunately supreme court ruled the right way for us on that but we are fighting on all fronts to keep things as fair as weekend. the full spectrum of litigation is so vast and so dramatic it is impossible to view in any way other than did the political lens of election interference it's a very, very sad day for our republic that is what we are dealing with as we proceed deeper into...
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smith are allowed to wage their not so subtle campaign of election interference. and that's the angle. joining us now is sol wisenberg former independent counsel, fox news contributor and david schoen former trump impeachment lawyer. sol, what the surrogates of the biden campaign who pass themselves off as objective lawyers what what they are now urging is this. watch. >> what i say is safety first. the law actually has a vehicle to hold the dangerous defendant accountable and it's called pre-trial detention. when the fines come, the judge also generally say -- and i promise you, mr. defendant, if you do it again for a third time, you're going into a jail cell. i have a hard time imagining donald trump making it through this trial without landing in a jail cell. >> wow. say that again? [laughter] >> laura: look at those cackling -- cackling people on the panel. sol, your reaction to that? they are salivating over the prospect of pre-trial detention to detention jail for contempt of court. >> well, was that glen cersner you showed. certainly the most lunatic of the
smith are allowed to wage their not so subtle campaign of election interference. and that's the angle. joining us now is sol wisenberg former independent counsel, fox news contributor and david schoen former trump impeachment lawyer. sol, what the surrogates of the biden campaign who pass themselves off as objective lawyers what what they are now urging is this. watch. >> what i say is safety first. the law actually has a vehicle to hold the dangerous defendant accountable and it's called...