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Curated research library of TV news clips regarding the NSA, its oversight and privacy issues, 2009-2014

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Primary curation & research: Robin Chin, Internet Archive TV News Researcher; using Internet Archive TV News service.

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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Williams: By handing over the documents to journalists, Snowden says he wanted to put some space between himself and what he himself stole from government computers. He wanted others to break the stories and do the reporting and check to see which stories might cause undue harm. Snowden: And that's the reason that the journalists have been required by their agreement with me as the source, although they could obviously break that or do whatever they want, but I demanded that they agree to consult with the government to make sure no individuals or specific harms could be caused by any of that reporting. Williams: That includes NBC News which has reported on its own batch of Snowden documents and has a reporting relationship with Glenn Greenwald Snowden: When it comes to specific stories about the specific collection programs, about specific targets, these aren't decided by me. These are decided by newspapers.
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Snowden: There is nothing that would be published that would harm the public interest. These are programs that need to be understood, that need to be known, that require deep background and context for research. They are difficult to report. but they are of critical public importance. Williams: Just for clarification here note that Snowden didn't deny turning over military secrets. He asserted instead they wouldn't be published.
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Snowden: I personally am surprised that I ended up here. The reality is I never intended to end up in Russia. I had a flight booked to Cuba onwards to Latin America. And I was stopped because the United States government decided to revoked my passport and trap me in the Moscow airport. So when people ask me why are you in Russia, I say please ask the state department.
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Snowden: It's a fair question. Why doesn't he face charges? But it's also uninformed. because what has been lain against me aren't normal charges. They are extraordinary charges. We’ve seen more charges under the espionage act in the last administration than we have in all other administrations in American history. The espionage act provides anyone accused of it of no chance to make a public defense. You are not allowed to argue based on all the evidence in your favor because that evidence may be classified, even if the it is exculpatory. When people say why don't you face the music, I say you have to understand the music is not an open court and a fair trial.
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Snowden: I think the most important idea is to remember that there have been times throughout American history where what is right is not the same as what is legal. Sometimes to do the right thing you have to break a law. And the key there is in terms of civil disobedience. You have to make sure that what you are risking, what you are bringing onto yourself doesn't serve as a detriment to anybody else, it doesn't hurt anybody else. And if you’re volunteering yourself to be used as a negative example, to spend a lifetime in prison rather than to spend a time in prison -- a short period where you will come out, you’ll advocate, you’ll emerge stronger and be able to inspire other people to resist these policies, are you doing good or are you doing bad?
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Snowden: I don't think there has ever been any question that I would like to go home. I mean, from day one I have said I'm doing this to serve my country. I'm still working for the government. Now whether amnesty or clemency becomes a possibility is not for me to say. That's a debate for the public and the government to decide. But if I could go anywhere in the world, that place would be home.
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Snowden: It's really frustrating for someone who is working so hard to expand the domain of our rights and our privacy to end up stuck in a place where those rights are being challenged in ways that I would consider deeply unfair. The recent bloggers' registration law in Russia, I can't think of any basis for a law like that. Not just in Russia, but any country. The government shouldn't be regulating the operations of a free press whether it’s NBC or some blogger in their living room. There’s so much that needs to be defended here in Russia, but I am limited by my inability to speak Russian and so on and so forth, that it's an isolating and frustrating thing.
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Snowden: I really hope that Russia, the United States and many other countries will work to push back against this constantly increasing surveillance, against this constant erosion and abrasion of public rights.
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Williams: The arc of your life is you went from signing up for the military of after 9/11, in effect saying you were willing to die for your country to then telling people you half expected to die via abduction or assassination after what you have done in this instance. That's a pretty dramatic arc since 2003, 2004. Snowden: I think that's actually a solid representation of the dramatic arcs that have happened within our government in the same period. Do you think our nation has changed since 9/11? Have the policies changed? Has the manner of our government changed? Has civil engagement with the government changed? Have our politics changed? Are things radically different in terms of partisanship? There have been radical changes within our government.
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Edward Snowden
whistleblower
KNTV 05/28/2014
Williams: Do you see yourself as a patriot? Snowden: I do. You know, I think patriot is a word that's thrown around so much that it can be devalued nowadays. But being a patriot doesn't mean prioritizing service to government above all else. Being a patriot means knowing when to protect your country, knowing when to protect your constitution, knowing when to protect your countrymen from the violations of and encroachments of adversaries and those adversaries don't have to be foreign countries. They can be bad policies. They can be officials who, you know, need a little bit more accountability. They can be mistakes of government and simple overreach and things that should never have been tried or that went wrong.
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