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but that said they couldn't have done this in december when jack smith asked them to and they didn't. >> well, what would it off? what i think they should do here? something that is, they won't do this. i'm afraid, but they could say, look we're not going to decide whether the official acts of the president are subject to criminal prosecution. but we'll leave that for another time. what we're going to tell you is overthrowing the overthrowing election. it's not an official act and make a factual finding and it says, as they did in bush versus gore, which embarrassing versus them, but where they, they said look, someone has to do this. we'll do it, we'll say what the president did here are the former president. these are, these are crimes, these are clearly crimes. these, this is a coup. and now he can be prosecuted for those things when we are saying that legal question, we postpone the factual question, we decide here and now it doesn't seem like it, sir, what did you see yesterday? >> every time we find ourselves at a new junction on this particular issue, i become deeply enraged be
but that said they couldn't have done this in december when jack smith asked them to and they didn't. >> well, what would it off? what i think they should do here? something that is, they won't do this. i'm afraid, but they could say, look we're not going to decide whether the official acts of the president are subject to criminal prosecution. but we'll leave that for another time. what we're going to tell you is overthrowing the overthrowing election. it's not an official act and make a...
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smith the greenlight entirely to pursue these charges related to trump's actions on and around january six, the high court appears likely to leave a lot of the work to lower courts that could take months and further delay a trial that was originally set for march 4, we are also hours from trump returning to new york city courtroom for his hush money trial. >> the former tabloid publisher david pecker, back on the stand yesterday, describing to jurors how he paid a former playboy playmate to keep her quiet about an alleged affair with trump and how his decision not to pay for stormy daniels story led to michael cohen ultimately paying for it. judge juan merchan also announcing he'd hold a hearing next wednesday where he's going to make a decision about whether trump violated his gag order. that supposed to be an off day for the trial after court wrapped up yesterday, trump seemed to walk back his vow to testify in his hush money trial well, if it's necessary right now, i don't know if you heard about today. >> today, was just incredible. people are saying the experts, i'm talking about
smith the greenlight entirely to pursue these charges related to trump's actions on and around january six, the high court appears likely to leave a lot of the work to lower courts that could take months and further delay a trial that was originally set for march 4, we are also hours from trump returning to new york city courtroom for his hush money trial. >> the former tabloid publisher david pecker, back on the stand yesterday, describing to jurors how he paid a former playboy playmate...
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this was jack smith with a very receptive court trying to push for something that makes no sense. speedy trial, right. is entirely are 99% designed to protect a defendant, particularly incarcerated defendant, from sitting and rotting in prison. and then eventually being acquitted. so this idea that they had to have done was pretty shamelessly political. and i think that's why the supreme court bristled when jack smith said less expedited, i don't think they care about i have this whole conversation months ago. well, they don't care about the political timeline that jack created. and so what i'm saying is the realistic ending of this case, if the majority holds with how oral argument went, is that they're going to be returning all of these cases were immunity is in play to fact-finding lower courts, which will then have and you're like you have with police shootings about whether it's in the course of employment, then they're probably going to march right back up to the supreme part and say, how about this is not the last appeal to go all the way up without question. >> well, if it
this was jack smith with a very receptive court trying to push for something that makes no sense. speedy trial, right. is entirely are 99% designed to protect a defendant, particularly incarcerated defendant, from sitting and rotting in prison. and then eventually being acquitted. so this idea that they had to have done was pretty shamelessly political. and i think that's why the supreme court bristled when jack smith said less expedited, i don't think they care about i have this whole...
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and drinking tonight jack smith's case against trump in major jeopardy. the supreme court signaling they will talk about this. the justice signal that they want the lower court to sort through one by one which of trump's actions were official duties and which were private before making a decision on immunity. they want this specific. this coming as it appears justices will ultimately reject trump's attempt to throw out the case of absolute immunity. >> my question is whether the very robust form of immunity that you are advocating is really necessary. >> i'm trying to under stand what the incentive is for turning the oval office into the seat of criminal activity in this country. >> they di d not put a clause in the constitution but wasn't the whole point that the president was not a monarch and was not supposed to be above the law. >> they're not buying the immunity argument but they're not looking like they will move quickly on it and move the january 6 case forward either. >> evan, i think that is the confusing things.. it is clear how they view it and
and drinking tonight jack smith's case against trump in major jeopardy. the supreme court signaling they will talk about this. the justice signal that they want the lower court to sort through one by one which of trump's actions were official duties and which were private before making a decision on immunity. they want this specific. this coming as it appears justices will ultimately reject trump's attempt to throw out the case of absolute immunity. >> my question is whether the very...
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smith's indictment are indeed private good x what led to the change from your team? >> well, i think we've always conceded, first of all, that there is no presidential immunity for president's private acts in office. i think we've also conceded that obviously president trump engaged in many private acts during the time period in question. i thought in many respects the much more damning concession, if you could call what we did a concession at all? oh was michael dreeben essentially admitting the attorney for the special counsel's office essentially
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the real conspiracy here is jack smith, alvin bragg, and frankly fani willis, all working too. inspire to impact the 2024 election. that is the real concern well, i hear the points you're making, although you are conflating di just separate sovereigns? >> obviously, jack smith, alvin bragg, fani willis, are separate entities entirely and the actual crimes charged against trump in the men, they're all democrats, laura, they're all democrats i hear i hear about the politics and what you're making. but the real issue here i want to refocus on the conversation about the concerns about immunity more broadly. and one of the reasons to answer your question, people do want the answer beforehand. i think as they want the transparency to decide who they would like to vote for it based on either an absence of or an actual criminal well record, but let's get back to the supreme court congress thinks i know this is a very important issue for you, but laura, but good transparency that they paid after president trump now for eight years, i mean that we know more about president trump than pro
the real conspiracy here is jack smith, alvin bragg, and frankly fani willis, all working too. inspire to impact the 2024 election. that is the real concern well, i hear the points you're making, although you are conflating di just separate sovereigns? >> obviously, jack smith, alvin bragg, fani willis, are separate entities entirely and the actual crimes charged against trump in the men, they're all democrats, laura, they're all democrats i hear i hear about the politics and what you're...
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smith's case against him. the court there appears poised to give trump what he wants, which is another delay in that trial. we're gonna have more on that breaking news coming up with the former trump white house attorney ty cobb. but first kara scannell, outside the courthouse in manhattan, and kara, you and i spent a lot of time together today in lower manhattan. what do you expect when packer good? it's back on the stand tomorrow under cross-examination trump's lawyers had about one hour of cross-examination with david pecker. and in that time, david pecker acknowledged that it was standard operating procedure for media companies to work with politicians but he also testified that he was at the heart of these deals and that he was involved with them and had many conversations with michael cohen, david pecker, serving as a narrator for the prosecution, taking the jury inside three of these catch-and-kill deals and testifying repeatedly that he was involved with them and help broker them to help donald trump's
smith's case against him. the court there appears poised to give trump what he wants, which is another delay in that trial. we're gonna have more on that breaking news coming up with the former trump white house attorney ty cobb. but first kara scannell, outside the courthouse in manhattan, and kara, you and i spent a lot of time together today in lower manhattan. what do you expect when packer good? it's back on the stand tomorrow under cross-examination trump's lawyers had about one hour of...
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but the justices seemed so convinced that limiting the scope of what jack smith could actually try here, that they walked away feeling pretty good about it, even though there were some really remarkable moment comments in there, is paul just pointed out where his attorneys were making big concessions that we've never heard them make. >> a good point. it's interesting, elliot, that the court seemed prepare prepared to hand trump a delay and to move this case back to a lower court right now, that would be a win for trump, presumably because he wants to delay as much as possible. it would be a practical when not illegal win, right? it's there are not, there's not a majority of the supreme court that is going to rule that the foreign president is absolutely immune from criminal lawsuit. the criminal prosecution that's clear. now, they may send it and it seemed likely that there's a majority of the court wants to send it back down to lower courts for more litigation. the hearings that's a win for donald trump. it delays the trial. now, the supreme court can say that what we did the instituti
but the justices seemed so convinced that limiting the scope of what jack smith could actually try here, that they walked away feeling pretty good about it, even though there were some really remarkable moment comments in there, is paul just pointed out where his attorneys were making big concessions that we've never heard them make. >> a good point. it's interesting, elliot, that the court seemed prepare prepared to hand trump a delay and to move this case back to a lower court right...
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i don't know if you remember, but jack smith, the special counsel, tried to get the court to intervene before the dc circuit back in december. the court said no. then when the court set this for argument that gave it two month window for it, now would probably wait another two months for a decision. the justices seemed somewhat divided today. i think it's really unlikely we would see a decision before the end of june, beginning of july, and that decision is likely going to split the baby it's going to result in a remand where there's going to be more work for the lower courts to do. i would be very surprised let' see donald trump go to trial before the november election at this point all right. >> ucla law professor rick hansen. thank you so much. good to see you. we'll be right back saving for, retirement was tough enough and navigating markets can be challenging at times. i understand that's why if fisher investments, we keep a disciplined approach with your portfolio helping you through the markets sen. downs, what about communication? we check in regularly to keep you informed whic
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and so boris brought him in to represent himself in the jack smith investigation. then he expanded his role to also cover these other cases and cod has an obvious affinity and loyalty to boris one that people like myself in jim trusty did not have so tim, i want to ask you at some of the evidence coming in now pecker is david pecker is of course, on the stand. >> at this moment, but there was something earlier that happened right before the lunch break. there was a text message between dylan howard, the editor in chief of the national enquirer, and what they describe as essentially a first-degree family member, i guess an immediate family member now, i'm going to tell you what the text says, but right now the defense raise an objection, so it's unclear whether this tax will be allowed to be shown to the jury. the discussion about it happened with the jury was not in the room. but the text is very significant, perhaps him it dylan howard texts, this family member, quote, of trump, at least if he wins, i'll be pardoned four election fraud. again, dylan howard, the ed
and so boris brought him in to represent himself in the jack smith investigation. then he expanded his role to also cover these other cases and cod has an obvious affinity and loyalty to boris one that people like myself in jim trusty did not have so tim, i want to ask you at some of the evidence coming in now pecker is david pecker is of course, on the stand. >> at this moment, but there was something earlier that happened right before the lunch break. there was a text message between...
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this is what jack smith and the government says it is. then future presidents are going to be chilled. they're not gonna be able to make decisions as bold and fearlessly as we've seen, presidents do for the last over 200 years and she kinda reversed that questioning, tim, i want to listen to that moment because there's a few hours ago what just this is katon to brown jackson had to ask to trump's attorney if someone with those kinds of powers, the most powerful person in the world with the greatest amount of authority could go into office knowing that there would be no potential penalty for committing crimes i'm trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the oval office into the sea heat of criminal activity in this country. if the potential for criminal liability is taken off the table, wouldn't there be a significant risk that future presidents would be emboldened? to commit crimes with abandon while they're in office i mean, that is really reversing their argument basically turning it on its head. yeah, exactly. and it
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both donald trump & jack smith, their lawyers point to history the constitution, both saying that it works in their favor for donald trump's side. he says separation of powers. the idea that the three branches are independent of each other means that judges cannot sit in judgment of the former president, whereas jack smith are used that there was never any kind of criminal immunity foreseen by the framers of the constitution. any points to a more modern day precedent? that involves former president richard nixon, who was forced out of office in 1974 because of his actions during the watergate scandal and his own effort to try to ensure his reelection back in 1972 but in 1974, after he was forced out, then president gerald ford pardoned richard nixon. and that pardon jack smith argues, was a recognition that nixon could have been subject to criminal prosecution if he had not been pardoned. so those are the dueling arguments the justices will hear. but bottom line, this trial of donald trump in this particular case has already been postponed since its original march start date because
both donald trump & jack smith, their lawyers point to history the constitution, both saying that it works in their favor for donald trump's side. he says separation of powers. the idea that the three branches are independent of each other means that judges cannot sit in judgment of the former president, whereas jack smith are used that there was never any kind of criminal immunity foreseen by the framers of the constitution. any points to a more modern day precedent? that involves former...
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again, that's bad for jack smith. timeline. so if you're the former president, all you so we're looking for here is no bold action by the court. you don't want a decisive, sweeping decision that said the immunity. you want something either in the middle, four, four victory. i don't think any serious legal scholars think the court is going to come out and adopt an absolute immunity framework. but there is a real risk that they're going to do something in the middle at all. that's going to have this case dragging on. & you look at the timeline, will under so far the court has not moved quickly here. they have not act like this case is truly an emergency. so i don't suspect they're going to do so with their decision. >> even though a lot of it has gone under the label of expedited and emergencies but i guess those are all relative terms when it comes to the supreme as you guys well know, elliott, let's turn to arizona really quickly. is this indictment that happened overnight? is this the two-point version of georgia with the bigg
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i just don't see this jack smith trial being litigated before the election, and the supreme probably knows how politically toxic it is, and they probably want to take their time on it. they don't want to be seen as tipping the scales in an election year either, right? >> but kate bedingfield, i mean, i have to say as i think about this in the big picture on the one hand shore, yeah. don't tip the scales right ahead of an election. but you can argue with the other way. and for the millions of americans, i think we should note that in the popular vote, democrats have been winning presidential elections. even in some cases where we end up with a republican president it is tipping the scales to not have this litigated before the 2024 election? yeah. i mean, these are really big fundamental questions. this is a question of former president's subverting of the constitution and yes, i mean, this is information that voters should have before they go to the polls in november that means that it polls show that people care about there is good or not. i do. do we do we see in the polling that ev
i just don't see this jack smith trial being litigated before the election, and the supreme probably knows how politically toxic it is, and they probably want to take their time on it. they don't want to be seen as tipping the scales in an election year either, right? >> but kate bedingfield, i mean, i have to say as i think about this in the big picture on the one hand shore, yeah. don't tip the scales right ahead of an election. but you can argue with the other way. and for the millions...
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so the forgery is actually highlight the strength of jack smith's case because that is evidenced those forgeries are evidence and interference are obstruction in that manner is will be actionable no matter what the supreme court decides. all right. so there's also the i guess that just compare this app because when you bring up that trump would be able to pardon, et cetera, right. and the other case that we're talking about is georgia, right. which i know is perceived as a strong case and has had a lot of challenges just to maybe in terms of public perception because of the whole embroiled with fani willis how does this stand up to that? >> obviously trump is not in this one and the same but how would you compare the cases? >> i think this is this is a laser and not a kitchen sink and that one's more, that one is much broader. no one sprawling. that one includes like pressure being placed on election officials and trying to get them to change the racketeering aspect of this absolutely. the racketeering and racketeering law in georgia is even broader than federal racketeering law, which
so the forgery is actually highlight the strength of jack smith's case because that is evidenced those forgeries are evidence and interference are obstruction in that manner is will be actionable no matter what the supreme court decides. all right. so there's also the i guess that just compare this app because when you bring up that trump would be able to pardon, et cetera, right. and the other case that we're talking about is georgia, right. which i know is perceived as a strong case and has...
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the special counsel, jack smith, is arguing that donald trump has never been above the law. trump's lawyers argued that what he did to try to overturn the election results was part of his official duties as president, and he shouldn't be prosecuted presidents have to be given total immunity. >> they have to be allowed to do the job in arguing that he has presidential immunity. >> donald trump says, if former president's could be criminally prosecuted for official acts, they took as president that threat would loom over everything. presidents do. >> they have to make decisions and they have to make them free of all terror that can be rained upon them when they leave office or even before they leave office. trump's making that argument before the supreme court in the january 6 election subversion case brought by special counsel, jack smith, who counters trump's argument by saying, no one is above the law. the idea that somebody can commit crimes in the oval office and then in perpetuity for the rest of their life, escape all accountability is inimical to american law and the c
the special counsel, jack smith, is arguing that donald trump has never been above the law. trump's lawyers argued that what he did to try to overturn the election results was part of his official duties as president, and he shouldn't be prosecuted presidents have to be given total immunity. >> they have to be allowed to do the job in arguing that he has presidential immunity. >> donald trump says, if former president's could be criminally prosecuted for official acts, they took as...
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according to jack smith, only one person is criminally liable for all the fake electors. only donald trump, nobody else, according to fani willis, donald trump committed a crime and some of the georgia electors dead, but not others, according to the indictment, we see tonight. and another one of the states only the electors are liable, not donald trump, according to other states, no electors, nobody's criminally liable. this doesn't make any sense. come together. it's become a pylon. it's become chaos. and by the way, on top of all this, not a single one of these indictments which came three years after the fact has resulted in a single guilty plea or conviction to any serious or any felony case. i need to see the proof in the pudding before i'm at all impressed by any of these, well jam, the other aspect of that could be, well, there's no coordination then there's not the sort of conspiring least among prosecutors to have one consistent theme. >> each side averaging something different. what do you say to this? >> well, let me look to our show if you want to get into all
according to jack smith, only one person is criminally liable for all the fake electors. only donald trump, nobody else, according to fani willis, donald trump committed a crime and some of the georgia electors dead, but not others, according to the indictment, we see tonight. and another one of the states only the electors are liable, not donald trump, according to other states, no electors, nobody's criminally liable. this doesn't make any sense. come together. it's become a pylon. it's...
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optimum tonight, donald trump and jack smith prepare for a final battle. >> before the supreme court, but has trump already won? i'll explain. >> plus new indictment against trump allies. we giuliani and mark meadows, there are now facing in zona for trying to overturn the 2020 election and tensions are boiling over and pro-palestinian protests on campuses all across this country. we've got a live report part tonight, and laura coates live so imagine for the second, if hollywood came up with the plot, i'm going to tell you about the presumptive republican nominee for president of the united states goes on trial in his own hometown, she tried to falsifying business records to cover up some kind of a sex scandal and while he's there at the very same time, his lawyers go before the supreme court tried to get him out of two federal criminal trials that could frankly up and his chances at retaking the white house sound unbelievable. >> well, believe it. it's actually real life because it's exactly what's going to happen just a few hours from now tomorrow morning and trump, he can't be in t
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smith and his team it's a lot more intricate than even what i knew. i was privy to a lot with mark. i was not privy to everything so when i look at his role in the post-2020 election, he was involved in a lot, but he also knows a lot. he's a person that has critical information, i believe in every single investigation, he owes a to himself. he owes it to the american people and he owes it to the duty that he swore to defend and protect constitution to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth to every investigator. >> did you talk to investigators for this? >> i'm not going to comment on investigators. i may or may not have spoken with in the past but what i will say is moving forward i will comply fully with any cooperation they ask me. >> do you remember mark meadows ever saying that trump did lose the election in that time period, acknowledging that he, that he had lost. yeah. i mean, mark and i had conversations is early. i can't remember the exact date off the top of my head, but about potentially moving to florida with the former president
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is for actions arising from foreign affairs jack smith even dropped a footnote into one of his brief saying, there are certain circumstances it says that as commander in chief dealing with foreign powers, there might be some actions taken that could be perhaps criminally suspected war crimes, but, but what he says, those are specific instances that would not are not here if the president is going to b immune from anything. the one thing he will not be immune from his election center footnote some more than i think it doesn't four-star generals help file an abacus brief basically saying, look, no this is not what we want and they were actually arguing against what the president is saying about why until immunity. well, they're saying in fact, they note the threat of authoritarianism or around the world. they also talk about the ability to protect elections from candidates who may hold on to whether they have won or lost. these are the kinds of things that are going to resurface in this conversation over the next couple of days and the thing you pointed out that i'm pretty obsessed wit
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. >> jack smith, have you ever heard of jack smith did the range when i call this judge is a lunatic and if you've ever watched him and the attorney general may be worse maybe worse. you have a watcher. i will get donald trump and the attorney general's a total of cheese, a corrupt person a terrible person. >> driving people out of three yard that letitia james, the corrupt attorney general of new york. >> you have a racist attorney general. >> i have a trump meeting, judge with the trump-hating wife and family. what else can you expect from a trump haiti, clinton appointed judge johnny says, judge kill, excuse me. judge. jill kohn visor and former new york state supreme court justice, who is known the judge overseeing this case, judge juan merchan for more than 15 years. >> judge. welcome. do you expect him do you think? to rule on the gag order soon? >> i think he probably will. i think it is typical of judge merchan to take his time and be thoughtful about the process and that ties and that is across ties and get it right. i've said on this show before, i think that the gag order
. >> jack smith, have you ever heard of jack smith did the range when i call this judge is a lunatic and if you've ever watched him and the attorney general may be worse maybe worse. you have a watcher. i will get donald trump and the attorney general's a total of cheese, a corrupt person a terrible person. >> driving people out of three yard that letitia james, the corrupt attorney general of new york. >> you have a racist attorney general. >> i have a trump meeting,...
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jack smith, have you ever heard of jack smith did the range what i call this judge, is a lunatic and if you've ever watched him and the attorney general may be worse, maybe where she ever watch here i will get donald trump and the attorney general's a total of cheese, a corrupt person a terrible person driving people out of three my letitia, james the corrupt attorney general of new york you have a racist attorney general. >> i have a trump-hating judge with the trump-hating wife and family. >> what else can you expect from a trump haiti, clinton appointed judge joining says judge, kill, excuse me, judge, jill kohn visor, former new york state supreme court justice, who is known the judge overseeing this case. >> judge juan merchan for more than 15 years judge. welcome. do you expect him do you think to rule on the gag order soon? >> i think he probably will. i think it is typical of judge merchan to take his time and be thoughtful about out the process. and that ties and that is across ties and get it right. i've said on this show before, i think that the gag order is a challenge fo
jack smith, have you ever heard of jack smith did the range what i call this judge, is a lunatic and if you've ever watched him and the attorney general may be worse, maybe where she ever watch here i will get donald trump and the attorney general's a total of cheese, a corrupt person a terrible person driving people out of three my letitia, james the corrupt attorney general of new york you have a racist attorney general. >> i have a trump-hating judge with the trump-hating wife and...
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nauta was charged last june with lying to the fbi and obstructing special counsel jack smith investigation. our panel is back. gene, how significant is this? because it basically looks like they were telling him, hey, you should lie because will protect you. absolutely. >> when i prosecuted cases back in the day the substantive charges were important, i used to love witness tampering. i loved obstruction of justice because i loved it because it goes through their state of mind in their guilty conscience that is an example of a state of mind and guilty conscience. now, here's the problem. who's people is it, is, it, is it greedo? who's talking to bhabha, who's talking to donald trump, is there are three layers of hearsay or is it donald trump saying to this person, go tell nada, i got a pardon in my pocket for you we don't know that. >> right. it seems difficult to build like a pardon in my pocket for you i mean, jonah, it does seem to suggest that they knew just how bad this was though oh for sure. i think so. i think that's right. it's also worth pointing out, like in the original constit
nauta was charged last june with lying to the fbi and obstructing special counsel jack smith investigation. our panel is back. gene, how significant is this? because it basically looks like they were telling him, hey, you should lie because will protect you. absolutely. >> when i prosecuted cases back in the day the substantive charges were important, i used to love witness tampering. i loved obstruction of justice because i loved it because it goes through their state of mind in their...
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now reminder, not was charged last june with lying to the fbi and obstructing special counsel jack smith's investigation. here's what the filing specifically says, quote, nada was told by potus about people that his investigation was not going anywhere that it was politically motivated and much ado about nothing nada was also told that even if he gets charged with lying to the fbi if potus will pardon him in 2024. and that's not all in one of the more bizarre details in the filing. this witness gave trump based stark warning to hand over the documents to the national archives the filing says that in november of 2021, person 16 told the former president of the united states whatever you have, give everything back, let them come here and get everything. don't give them a noble reason to indict you because they will from repo this friday at eight weird you're the man type of response it goes on to say that person 16 was given the impression that trump was going to return the records, but the meeting was interrupted when a mar-lago club member and a much younger woman walked up, take a photo w
now reminder, not was charged last june with lying to the fbi and obstructing special counsel jack smith's investigation. here's what the filing specifically says, quote, nada was told by potus about people that his investigation was not going anywhere that it was politically motivated and much ado about nothing nada was also told that even if he gets charged with lying to the fbi if potus will pardon him in 2024. and that's not all in one of the more bizarre details in the filing. this witness...
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case name was just revealed in an redacted court filings and special counsel, jack smith's criminal case against trump plasmic echo. whatever that means. >> in the sports lead, new york yankees manager aaron boone found himself injective from today's game for well for nothing i'm going to be to do a look at probably going to hit okay maybe take a look here so that was the umpire yelling towards the dugout. >> erin saying what we should note, it was a fan in the stands who first did the talker? boon just stood there and took it when a fan mouth on and boone w out of thamed no i'm nousually, warn that the fans, yankeeut still taylor swift's new album became the most streamed album on its first day across spotify, amazon music, and apple music on friday, the tortured poets department gotten nearly 300 million streams on spotify alone before we sign off this programming node, cnn will have special coverage again tomorrow for another big day. and the new york hush money cover-up
case name was just revealed in an redacted court filings and special counsel, jack smith's criminal case against trump plasmic echo. whatever that means. >> in the sports lead, new york yankees manager aaron boone found himself injective from today's game for well for nothing i'm going to be to do a look at probably going to hit okay maybe take a look here so that was the umpire yelling towards the dugout. >> erin saying what we should note, it was a fan in the stands who first did...
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and one thing that's special counsel jack smith points do is 1974 parts pardon by gerald ford of richard nixon after watergate and he said the reason the president pardon him, president ford pardoned him and what everyone accepted at the time was that richard nixon would have been subject to criminal prosecution for what went on during watergate. and he said that that instance is part of a long history in america of an understanding that former presidents could be prosecuted criminally. so it is really donald trump who's trying to break that norm, but you know, we'll have to see what kinds of questions that justices have on thursday. kate, it'll be a very consequential ruling when it eventually comes absolutely, joan. thank you so much thank you very much. thank you, john. all right. we are minutes away from opening statements in the new york criminal case against donald trump. this is a history-making moment with us now for a minute hadn't prosecutor jeremy saland, so take me behind the scenes right now prosecutors really minutes away from delivering their opening statements. what are t
and one thing that's special counsel jack smith points do is 1974 parts pardon by gerald ford of richard nixon after watergate and he said the reason the president pardon him, president ford pardoned him and what everyone accepted at the time was that richard nixon would have been subject to criminal prosecution for what went on during watergate. and he said that that instance is part of a long history in america of an understanding that former presidents could be prosecuted criminally. so it...